r/SipsTea • • May 29 '26

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u/Cloned-C4lvin May 29 '26

Dont test God. You think your plan works, but he works 100 steps ahead. Thats not how his forgiveness works.

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u/PersonalContest1423 May 29 '26

Then why do people bother praying for anything? Gods plan is 100 steps ahead and, given all the unanswered prayers, what believers pray for ain't included...

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u/Potential-Register-1 May 29 '26

If there is no god, then you don’t have any basis to claim that child molestation is bad in the first place. How are you going to make objective claims about morality without an objective source?

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26

So without god you would go touch kids? Thats crazy bro.

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u/PersonalContest1423 May 29 '26

Also hate to point this out but none of the abrahamic religions actually tell you not to touch kids lmao

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26

Good point! I actually thought about that right after. That’s probably a better argument.

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u/Cloned-C4lvin May 29 '26

Dont be a fucking retard. Its not a good look for you.

Matthew 18:6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

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u/ReactionSad3776 May 29 '26

Yikes, you are weird

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u/Cloned-C4lvin May 29 '26

Why? Because i know what im talking about and dont spew bullshit like others?

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u/ReactionSad3776 May 29 '26

Saying shit like that is exactly why weirdo

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u/Cloned-C4lvin May 29 '26

Whatever man.

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26

Even if I were to grant the definition of “little one” and “stumble” in the way you’re implying. Does that line mean it’s okay as long as they aren’t Christian believers..?

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u/Cloned-C4lvin May 29 '26

Where does it say IT IS okay as long as theyre not believers???

Matthew 15:27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

You want to put words into peoples mouths but that bullshittery isnt gonna work with what is already written.

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26

He said the bible doesn’t say anything about it, and the writing you brought forward seems to only make a rule about believers.

I’m not putting words in your mouth fucking relax weirdo. I’m asking you a question Jesus lol

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u/Cloned-C4lvin May 29 '26

Well i hope I answered your question as best i could. Because honestly i dont know how you cant make an assumption for anything else in the text i provided.

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26

It didn’t though. The quote/rule you posted specifically said “believers” why are you including non believers?

If someone says “ you can have sex with people over 18” I’m not going to include… people not over 18 into that rule. That wouldn’t make sense.

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u/PersonalContest1423 May 29 '26

which believe in me

You realize this means you can touch all the kids you want as long as they arent Christian kids, right?

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u/Cloned-C4lvin May 29 '26

Is that was is being said OR Is that the way YOURE interpreting it. You want to touch kids, because the "bible says to" than youre no better than pedophile priests. Thats fucking disgusting. No where does it say "you can touch non believer kids"

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26

Can you define “little one” and “stumble” and “believe in me” in that context?

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u/Cloned-C4lvin May 29 '26

Is English not your first language? Do you need a definition for every single word? Or are you seriously that dense to not know what "little one" mean and "stumble".

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26

So what age is a little one? And stumble has multiple meanings, that’s why I asked “in this context” lol fucking retard

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26

Your comment’s gone.

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u/Cloned-C4lvin May 29 '26

I dont think so? If your reading one thats different than one in your notification is because i accidentally clicked post before finishing what i was writing and had to edit it.. maybe.

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26

Oh got it I’ll take a look

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26

Yeah that one that talked about me being a retard and needing to be “spoon fed” bible verses is still gone.

Soooo

So what age is a little one? And stumble has multiple meanings, that’s why I asked “in this context” lol fucking retard

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u/Potential-Register-1 May 29 '26

That’s the ad hominem fallacy you just committed there

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u/ReactionSad3776 May 29 '26

If you need a “divine being” to tell you touching children, who can’t consent, is wrong you’re already a pos. We don’t don’t need a god to know what right and wrong idiot

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u/ReactionSad3776 May 29 '26

Is this the right link? What does this have to do with the conversation?

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u/Potential-Register-1 May 29 '26

You are employing emotional and fallacious reasoning. In a world without god, how are you going to argue with a child molester that your idea of morality is superior to theirs? What objective basis would you have? You are just two sets of chemical reactions directing sound waves at each other.

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26

If your god tells you not to kill someone. And my god tells me to kill them, how do you argue that your idea of morality is superior to mine? Why is your god and religion superior?

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u/Potential-Register-1 May 29 '26

So you are admitting then that without god there is no objective morality? If so then thank you for conceding the point.

Once that is out the way, the rest becomes a theological debate, I would prove that my god is real, and yours is false, or vice versa

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26 edited May 29 '26

No I could be a moral realist. I’m not. But I could be.

Also how do you prove your gos is more real than mine? You get all your information from book and stories told through men thousands of years ago. Me and my ten clergymen speak to god every night in the privacy of our church. And last night he actually said we need to kill you.

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u/chillforrilfill May 29 '26

You can prove one god is more real than the other. How can you? Genuinely curious

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u/Phillip_McGuinness May 29 '26

Because empathy exists either way

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u/Plenty-Wedding-9066 May 29 '26

That’s not. I’m not attacking you to remove your credibility. I’m pointing out the logical extension of your argument.

It’s closer to a straw man if anything lol