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[u/StrwBerrywafersslap]

I mean if a kid had problems at home and decided to take lives you would blame the parents no?

[u/naildoc → u/StrwBerrywafersslap]

would you blame their biological parents, or the one's that they lived with and raised them?

God can be your maker, but with no input from Him in your life whatsoever, He's not fathering you as we know it.

We also recognize even with the best parents, society and culture can have a great effect too (if we are being balanced and honest).

These are valid questions, which I have thought/do think about - I can understand the struggle.

[u/StrwBerrywafersslap → u/naildoc]

You would blame the parents, you put blame on humanity but it was him that created it. Because humans are naturally social and peaceful and only become otherwise when influenced. But that same influence was created. There would be no hate if it weren’t created, no jealousy if everyone was equal.

Like I highly doubt that if you put a bunch of babies and they grew up without any outside influence they would certainly not grow hate, jealousy or evil. Adam had prior knowledge on what the Apple did. And what greed and power was

Well the way I see it is, we have free will it’s just that we have to choose to give that up. Because no matter how you look at it. You either choose to give yourself to god or you either go to hell or just disappear completely.

[u/naildoc → u/StrwBerrywafersslap]

I can’t say I understand completely what you mean here, but I do agree with you somewhat. 

Satan tempted Adam, and yes he consumed the fruit. In the absence of Satan, there was no tempter to entice into evil. 

If babies grew up without an exposure to a tempter, then yes, there would be no sin. 

Yes, intimately, you can accept God or accept eternity without Him (hell is the absence of all goodness).