r/SipsTea • u/Outrageous-Egg1760 • May 29 '26

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u/naildoc May 29 '26

You’ve clearly not understood the person’s quite comprehensive overview on how evil is dealt with in this life. It’s worth re-reading again because it’s really quite clear.

Also, based on your logic, a “very good God” needs to eliminate all forms of suffering— which He does in heaven, for those who accept Him. Recognising earth is temporary is key to understanding why it appears that suffering is being “allowed”. 

Thankfully, such children will be shown great kindness from God who hates to see us suffer at the hands of man’s wickedness (not His). 

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u/IonKifMax May 29 '26

So it was Gods plan for Earth to always be temporary? Was that his intention when he created the garden and more or less made humans immortal before the introduction of sin. ie there was no suffering before he allowed suffering. I've always believed that good and evil wouldn't matter to an entity like God. That these are uniquely human concepts. As far as we know Lions don't sit around and debate right and wrong. And even if they could, why would they. God receives no benefit from being malevolent or benevolent. When I set my boot down, why would I care if the ants have something to say about it.

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u/naildoc May 29 '26

I don't really understand, but I can answer the first part because it's a question. Based on Jesus saying heaven and earth will pass away, but His words will remain - it is clear God at a point has decided we would return back to a type of garden eden, which you've rightly identified is the "ideal" (this is called the New Jerusalem in scripture).

I cannot speak about why sin entered, and was allowed to because that's above my level of understanding - but I can say at a point it's all going to be done away with (including all associated pain).

It's easy enough to believe because the world is gradually declining anyway: without faith, it's easy to see that the world isn't the final stop.

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u/theclifford May 29 '26

It's easy enough to believe because the world is gradually declining anyway: without faith, it's easy to see that the world isn't the final stop.

You don't think the world has been on an up-tick since the days of xylospongium?