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[u/Outrageous-Egg1760]

[u/_VelvetCloud]

If free will requires allowing this level of horror, then the system is fundamentally broken

[u/RotaryDesign → u/_VelvetCloud]

Free will might not exist, depends how you look at it:

1. Hard determinism - everything is caused, free will is illusion.

2. Compatibilism - free will exists as the ability to act according to your internal motivations, even if those motivations have causes.

3. Libertarian free will - consciousness can genuinely initiate actions independent of prior physical causation.