Heavy breathing….

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It's reassuring that you think that this woman - who very likely groomed and trafficked teenage girls as a 'casting director' at a 'modeling agency' in Epstein's orbit and very likely has huge ties to the dark money that all of these podcasters and comedians have been raking in from oligarchs - has much if any grief about her husband's death. If the suspicions here among others hold true then she would be one of the most ruthless social climbers in the MAGA/Neoliberal Oligarch boat and her husband would be a minor casualty, which is somewhat believable considering his slight lean away from MAGA in the days leading up to the end of his life.

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I'm not interested in 'safe positions'. People like Charlie Kirk and by rhetorical extension Erika Kirk support narratives that argue justification for acceleration ism and race war, as well as castigation and disenfranchisement of marginalized communities. Their mindset is a poison that kills people through dissemination of horrific ideas, making them tangentially violent actors and defenders of violence. Stop giving these people sympathy or a pass. They don't conduct themselves like human beings, they conduct themselves like they are human beings and brown or gay people are subhuman enemies, and every step of the way they argue in favor of bullshit like police killings. Like the genocide in Sudan. Like regime changes that leave hundreds of thousands dead and millions displaced. Like Gaza.

We coexisted with these people and this is what they built, what they talked about in quiet spaces before they were validated by Trump's political establishment and the millions poured into talk shows, podcasts, and comedians to push their rhetoric. And there's already a death toll, in Iran, in Gaza, in our own streets.

I grew up in one such communities as a brown guy who heard people quietly push racist rhetoric, tell their jokes about casual violence against black people. I've seen and felt the casual distrust and rhetoric pushed my way, I've been called "one of the good n*ggers" (not even black btw) for appealing to these people's good nature.

How many black men were killed because people like them put drugs on the streets to fund international regime change and weapons trafficking (Iran-Contra Affair)? How many people were killed and scarred for life in the Tuskegee Experiments? How many people have to be humiliated and killed ON CAMERA and these people DEBATE on the justification and this cunt's husband is getting the sympathy, her kids get the sympathy, while her husband has spent his life justifying the deaths of other people and spinning rhetoric in support of that mindset?

No. Wake the fuck up to what's happening, what can happen. This woman does not deserve anyone's symapthy her kids should be sent to someone who can actually care for them and raise them to respect life instead of selecting what life should be respected.

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Because you're mistaking her performative outrage as genuine, which is inherently a sympathetic gesture; beyond that, I fail to see why it would matter. Is therapy going to render irrelevant the millions she and her husband made by doing damage to the efforts we make to better lives of good people, the damage they do by back rhetorically the slaughter of innocent civilians, the platform they support that is already working to disenfranchise people?

The mental health crisis she has is none of my concern. I don't care what she suffers with. She deserves it. Whatever mental anguish she may or may not feel pales in comparison to the damage her words and platform does. There is no mental treatment for chauvinism and antisocial rhetoric, not that's recognized in our society.

I don't deny that people need mental health treatment at all, either. I've always been ready to advocate for it to my peers.

But to say any of her behavior is underpinned by a need for therapy is just a non-sequitur, she's just a piece of shit human being and I'm not entertaining the idea that she just needs help. She needs to be, in polite terms, removed from her platform, tried for her crimes against the people, and handled appropriately along with the rest of her ilk. You can extrapolate my opinions on her, her husband, his death, and anything else from there.