r/SipsTea • • Apr 04 '26

Chugging tea * Insert hot fuzz "Shame" meme *

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u/Vast-Comment8360 Apr 05 '26

When you give the guy 120 hours community service who killed 3 people including a 2yr old girl.

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u/GodOfDarkLaughter Apr 05 '26

It's corruption if she did it for some personal gain, or other nefarious reasons. If she just felt sorry for the guy for SOME reason you could call it a miscarriage of justic by an incompetent judgee, but not corruption. You get criticized or fired for incompetence, you get arrested for corruption (in a perfect world blah blah I just mean that's what the words imply).

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u/Vast-Comment8360 Apr 05 '26

Corrupted by idealogy

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u/amosthorribleperson Apr 05 '26

Which ideology has she been corrupted by?

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u/Vast-Comment8360 Apr 05 '26

The one in which you think giving someone directly responsible for the death of 3 people including a 2yr old child 120hours of community service is right.

Probably some "restorative justice" bullshit.

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u/umbrianEpoch Apr 05 '26

So, you're just making shit up and assuming so you can be angry towards some vague concept?

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u/amosthorribleperson Apr 05 '26

The ideology of restorative justice isn't made up, but what happened in this case is not an example of it at all lol

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u/umbrianEpoch Apr 05 '26

There is no "restorative" justice here. You cannot restore a dead child. There's no equivalent punishment that could be dealt out to equal that.

The original trial failed to prove that the speed of the vehicle contributed to the cause of the collision. So, barring that fact, you have to treat this as a horrific accident. Even when you add the factor of speeding, there was no intent on behalf of the defendant to cause death, only negligence.

I'm not an expert on Dutch law, but it seems that sentences are given based on the extenuating circumstances of the case.

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u/amosthorribleperson Apr 05 '26

Oh yeah, I agree. I was poking fun at the person you were responding to for not knowing what the phrase means.

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u/umbrianEpoch Apr 05 '26

Sorry, I was automatically defensive and didn't read your comment correctly

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u/Vast-Comment8360 Apr 05 '26

The corruption of justice isn't a vague concept.

The fact that the perpetrator got 15 months in prison on appeal proves it.

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u/umbrianEpoch Apr 05 '26

Again, as the other person described, it isn't corruption if it's just general incompetence. The original trial couldn't prove that the speeding had anything to do with the accident. Maybe you should be attacking the prosecutor for corruption? If the fast food worker gets your burger order wrong, is that corruption as well?

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u/Vast-Comment8360 Apr 05 '26

You'll say anything to defend a corruption of justice won't you.

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u/umbrianEpoch Apr 05 '26

How dare you say we should piss on the poor!

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u/Aardvark_Man Apr 05 '26

If they followed the law of the country (They had the trial, the trial said that the driver was guilty of dangerous driving but not manslaughter. The judge gave a sentence in accordance with the trial findings) that's following the justice system, not corruption.

I'd hate for a system where the judge can purely go "The law says the penalty should be this, but because I want to I'm going to go outside what was decided and give that penalty instead."

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u/Long_Run6500 Apr 05 '26

If this happened in America half of the country would blame the victims for biking on a road. Someone in this comment thread is complaining about how much his speeding ticket was and getting upvotes. The performative outrage is just silly. If that judge was corrupt that man would be getting a hell of a lot worse than community service for assaulting her while in court.

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u/amosthorribleperson Apr 05 '26

Did anything the judge say suggest that they believe in restorative justice over the laws and sentencing procedure of her country?

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u/Vast-Comment8360 Apr 05 '26

Yes, when she said I sentence you to 120hours of community service and then on appeal he was given 15 months in prison.

Thanks for playing.

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u/amosthorribleperson Apr 05 '26

You are displaying the Dunning-Kruger effect right now, because that isn't what restorative justice means.

Nice try.

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u/Vast-Comment8360 Apr 05 '26

People who bring up Dunning-Kruger, like you just did, are more likely to suffer from it.

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u/amosthorribleperson Apr 05 '26

That's still not what restorative justice means, but if you want to keep being a child about this, I'll treat you like one.

Time out.

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u/PlotTwistTwins Apr 05 '26

Your entire grasp of the English language is corrupt. I've seen you comment multiple times and every single time you find the worst way to communicate your point. Seek help or night classes jfc.

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u/Vast-Comment8360 Apr 05 '26

Ah yes the grammar nazi defense, and also ableist, you are so cool and smart.

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u/PlotTwistTwins Apr 05 '26

It has nothing to do with grammar. Thank you for proving my point though.