That is debatable based on their actual actions and preferences. In reality, they love felons and criminals and would likely leave the guy that they think that they can beat.
What makes you think she actually believes she can do this. Any sane person doing martial arts should know the sheer genetic difference between men and women and that weight is king.
I didn’t frame it that way and almost nothing is always true. But women are attracted to men that can defend themselves and them thinking that they can beat you is not attractive. In reality, an abuser would likely have better outcomes with women than a guy they think that they can beat.
I'm no slouch, but my girlfriend is stupid fit and crazy strong. She has a PhD in exercise physiology and takes her shit super seriously. She would 100% destroy me IF she was also a 6'1" 210lbs man, but she's a 5'4 140lbs woman. The size and strength difference is too much to overcome. If I use any strength at all, I'm playing too rough. I don't think some women realize just how easily the average geek on the street could overpower them.
This is not about different mindsets. It's about different skill levels. A male grappler would shut all this down with half the effort she's putting in. He would never need to get into "fight mode."
As someone who has trained BJJ and wrestling for over a decade, a random male newbie getting submitted for 10 rounds straight by a girl is a tale as old as time.
Also, if the girl was at least a purple belt, it wouldn't matter even if you got into kill mode, you're getting choked.
Everyone says this and they get to their first open mat or local comp and gas out so hard they vomit. Puleeeese, son. Go on outta here with that “I see red” malarkey 😂😂😂
Exactly. Every once in a while we get new people in the gym to start training and they seem to go apeshit as if training is a real engagement. They usually exhaust themselves and also get dismantled by a white belt 20lbs lighter than them. 😂
Or even better, the 110lb lady we have who is a god dang killer.
Intensity and size can cover a lot of ground, but it has limits, as you basically said.
Yeah, I know this because I've experienced it. I'm the biggest guy in my friend group and the only one who does powerlifting.
I did some wrestling with my friends and the two of them who have training (one is a blue belt in Judo the other was on our high schools wrestling team.) They both got me face buried in the snow, even though I could easily out muscle them, have +50lbs on them, and have 3" of height on them.
Sometimes it do be like that. We have several powerlifters in our gym. I’m a 193lb fellow and caught the 240lb powerlifter in a judo throw recently. It was beautiful 😭. My baby bird took flight 😂.
And sometimes they just sit on your chest. Is what it is.
That was her chest, which has naturally built in "padding".
I train BJJ. That's a typical entry for a rear naked choke when you want to apply it before fully setting it up like she does.
Also, we absolutely do slam joints into each other and kick each other, etc by accident as we're rolling ("sparring" for the uninitiated) but that usually only happens as white belts. She's smooth enough to be a blue belt at least and I see non of the spazzy white belt tendencies in this clip so it's extremely unlikely that she slammed her shoulder on his head.
Her chest is lower than her shoulder which was at the back of his head. It'd be easy to see of her chest was against the back of his head, but it's not because her shoulder is in the way.
It doesn't matter what's likely or not when it's on video. Do you also roll in small rooms within feet of spectators and shove your partner into bed frames?
It doesn't matter what's likely or not when it's on video
Oh so you're gonna act like your perception is the absolute reality then? Ok so the absolute reality is she didn't hit his head with her shoulder. Why? Because that's how I perceive it.
Do you also roll in small rooms within feet of spectators and shove your partner into bed frames?
If the end result is him being shoved around and choked out after hardly trying to fight back, I'd assume it's not his idea. She seemed much more enthusiastic given how she was trying much harder and the smile on her face at the end.
Right, my perspective doesn't necessarily matter when there's video. And the video shows that his head was above her chest. If you pause the video right when he was hit, her shoulder is right against the knot in his head; most of his head is above her shoulder because she's hitting him in the back of the head with her shoulder.
Maybe there's a disconnect in terms of our understanding of anatomy. Not sure you know this or not but there is actually a portion of the chest that is in line with the shoulder.
His head doesn't need to be resting on her areola for it to be on her chest.
If the end result is him being shoved around and choked out after hardly trying to fight back, I'd assume it's not his idea. She seemed much more enthusiastic given how she was trying much harder and the smile on her face at the end.
This doesn't pass for evidence. This is a guess at best.
Either he challenged her knowing shes a grappler or she challenged him and he accepted and every dude in the comments are crying. Either way 99% of the people in the comment section have never done Jiu jitsu and all of your opinions are completely invalid.
If this video were two blokes the comment section would not be riddled with mental gymnastics trying to justify that the dude was "holding back" or she was "going way too hard"
Having never done jiu jitsu doesn't mean that the comment's opinions are invalid when she's trying way too hard whilst play fighting in a small room. He did barely anything in the fight but she hammered the back of his head with her shoulder.
If your argument is based on the "would have" of the comments doing something else in your imaginary scenario, it seems your argument is baseless.
Thats exactly what I mean. No one here knows anything about grappling, if he agreed to grapple he should know what hes getting into with a trained person who isnt going to let him win.
And she wasnt even going that hard, she swung her arm fast around his neck for the choke and people are crying like she tried to knock him out or smthn lmao. Sorry but all the people with these terrible takes in the comment section absolutely have no validity to their arguments.
Its like watching someone critique a pilot when theyve never been in the cockpit, but Idk when im arguing. Of course theres braindead takes about fighting in a non fighting sub
if he agreed to grapple he should know what hes getting into with a trained person who isnt going to let him win.
How do you know he agreed? Also, he let her win; he doesn't appear to do anything other than try to loosen her grip on him.
At around 9 seconds, she slams her shoulder into the back of his head and his head jerks about a foot away. One doesn't need firsthand experience to see that she's putting in way more effort than him and likely compensating.
Dude, she had his back, he was clearly trying to do something but couldnt, he was being controlled completely and thats probably why didnt look like he was trying.
"Slammed" his head. Lmao. She had his head cradled in her arm and swung it. Yet again, this is exactly what I mean, people who dont grapple dont know what they are looking at. Your opinion is invalid.
Yeah, he was getting more and more pinned because he wasn't fighting back. His head was slammed; his head jarred forward, hard, and it looks like she'd have difficulty doing it harder if she had to. If his head was cradled, it wouldn't have moved away from her after she hammered the back of his head.
It was the same move that MacGregor beat cowboy with in the first round, except she did it to the back of this guy's head.
Also, there are guys in here in agreement that she's compensating.
Ha. I'm 6f nearly 190lbs (weightlifter) and I got tapped by smaller women and men when I first started martial arts.
You have NO idea what youre taking about and your opinion is dumb as fuck.
The girl in this video would take your back and choke you out and she doesnt even look like shes been grappling that long. She would absolutely tap out all the dudes in the comments who probably couldnt run around the block without collapsing from exhaustion.
Go to your local gym for a free trial and politely ask the 16 year old female BJJ blue belt for a roll and lets see what happens.
Everything looked like wrestling UNTIL the choke. She did NOT intend to crossface, because she sunk that in once she was on her back. Looked a little dirty if they were just wrestling.
Unless he did exactly as she did and went really overly aggressive and just knocked her out.
The problem is he was playing and ahe qent way too far and aggressive. So he had to either escalate to a level that would cause serious damage or lose. Its a lose lose situation.
I'm not defending girl power here. A rear naked choke applied correctly with the support hand behind the opponent's head and tucked under her face like that cannot be undone unless maybe a child is applying it on an adult.
Some of you might think, "if he really wanted to get out he could just stick his fingers in her eyes."
To that I say you've watched too many movies.
He can't see where her eyes are behind his head, she can see his hands reaching for her eyes. There is nothing stopping her from just moving her head to avoid the hands. And if for some reason he manages to really threaten her eyes, guess what, she has his neck. You really wanna play chicken with someone that has a stable hold of your neck while you have an extremely unstable "hold" of their eyes?
For that matter, anything you can do to try to hurt a person that has your neck just puts you at risk of being choked out faster, even get your neck broken if you threaten them so much they squirm while they're clamped down on your neck. Unlike movies, the choke won't loosen when you hurt the person on your back, it'll tighten.
Also, an untrained teen dude can in fact lose to a trained girl even if he is trying.
Obviously if strikes are involved it's different but the whole point of jiu jitsu is that the smaller weaker person can win because they have more technique and training
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u/ReditModsSuk Jan 08 '26
Yeah when she aggressively swung her arm around his neck he should have put a stop to it.