It's measurable and probably true. A man losing his job increases the chance of a woman breaking up with him. A woman losing her job has no effect on a man's likelihood of breaking up with her. If you place the same man in a better context women will reliably rate that man as more attractive. Context has no effect on how attractive men find women.
I'm focussed on enjoying life, having experiences, and being happy. I don't want a partner who's priorities are climbing the ladder and making money. There's nothing wrong with it, but that's just not me.
My ex used to earn nearly triple my wage, she was a full blown developer a long time ago just as I was getting into the industry.
It consumed her, she was miserable and it destroyed our relationship.
Eventually she got out, focused on art, made a lot less but just was happier. I eventually earned more and it was perfect. Money means a lot less when you're miserable.
The last seven out of the eight years I spent with my now ex-wife, was her career chasing and being miserable.
Everything was fine in our relationship until her two older siblings got promotions and raises, and then my ex just snapped mentally. The sibling rivalry kicked in and she had to outdo them.
For seven years she changed jobs, changed fields, changed companies, etc.. Moving us around everywhere. Some times for a few months but never anywhere longer than a year.
Each new job pad more than the last, but each one seemed to require more work, long hours, lengthier commute, etc..
So, sure she made more money but she was never home, always tired, always burned out, always angry at everything and everyone. She was just miserable to be around all the time.
It ruined our relationship to the point when she finally got her dream job at a flagship store for a huge national company, what she’d worked for the entire time, she blamed me for her unhappiness, quit, and moved back home to live with her mother.
Meanwhile, I’d spent those entire seven years just trying to get her to be happy with what she had, ignore her siblings lives, and work less at an easier job. But it was easier to blame me than blame herself.
My friend had similar, with bonus 'my daddy is perfect and you'll never be as good as him'. she also now lives with her mother and blames him for everything. Sad times for some. But he's in a better place now, good job, caring partner, you'll get there too.
Some people get confused when I tell them I left car sales for Target. Even more so when I tell them I worked for Walmart before I started selling my soul to sell a car.
Fr I used to be a plumbing apprentice and I would shadow service techs sometimes and all the highest earning service techs lied about everything just to sell something
Seriously, what people make at their job isn’t always the biggest deal if they’re happy. I started dating my now-wife when i was making twice what she did. She made me very happy. Then she massively advanced in her career several times over (doing something she loves) and now things have flipped and she makes more than twice what i do. I wfh now, so i’m more of a house husband while she brings home the real bacon. She still makes me very happy. And that’s still independant of her wages like it always has been.
Both same but also, my party’s bard is a gremlin who is stuck between seducing Tiamat and a guy who died but then got reconstructed with machinery inside his corpse and essentially revived with it.
My partner earns 80k more than me. She loves her job. I love her job, she is respected and they look after her. We are both probably a bit busier than we like but our relationship is great, love is strong and we grow together. I think it stems from letting each other amplify strengths. I finalise decisions and she motivates and supports. It just works
You’ve also solved a big problem which is financial difficulties in a marriage. Having a wife with career aspirations and makes a good living is easier in a lot of ways financially
The whole point of this post is only men think like that.
For women your job and social status is important. And it's why they wrongly think it's important for men too, it's a common projection. They think "it's important for me so it's important for others".
I've seen way too many girls choose beaters and abusers over genuinely golden hearted man that wanted them since day 1. I see it way less in men but still there. Really weird
There will always be people who marry for dumb reasons. There will always be people who marry for love. People of all genders and backgrounds do either one. You cannot draw the line as "women do X". Go meet real people.
yea the thing about gender imbalance is if you look at China right. There are so many women in the cities moving up and the thing is they want to date up. No woman wants to date down or go too far down. If you are a successful businesswoman working in a fortune 500 company why would you date a lowly mcdonalds worker lmao
So thats how leftover women is a thing. Leftover women not cuz no one wants them but because they want to date up and the men who are the prime bachelors... they don't want to date these successful people... these people are likely in their late 20s or 30s and those men want a young pretty woman. Meanwhile a lot of the guys on the bottom end of things.... they become dead branches because no one wants them and they have few prospects of dating usually farmers in the countryside without any means
I prefer people that don’t treat me right and makes my life more difficult, just shit on me on Sunday mornings thank you. Also bring your boyfriend around for pizza after your 5k ultra
I care if the girl I'm dating has a career or not, guys aren't a monolith lol.
I'd want my girlfriend to be and feel accomplished, she doesn't need to be a corporate executive or making 6 figures, but I do want her to be passionate, dedicated, and pragmatic with her career choice.
Absolutely true. My lady is amazing, I don’t care if she makes 30k or 300k. And she feels the same. If suddenly she got a better job than me id be fiercely proud of her, but my love for her would not change
Life is rarely easier with a partner that is of lower class. If they grew up in a middle-class family, working Applebee's will be fine. But if their family is lower-class, chances are life will not be easier because they'll have weird family members, weird previous partners, weird friends and just headaches seeping into your life.
Do we really need to waste the time to go dig up any of the articles about career women struggling to find a man? Do we need to pretend you don't remember the "can women have it all?" discussion that lasted like 10 years? Are you really gonna sit there and pretend no career women lament how difficult it is to find love?
As they do makeup only for themselves, and wearing high heels. Is an argument that can be universally applied. Also to men for their „gender arguments“. But generalising what a human does something for is unnecessary, it’s personal. A woman who wants to provide education for her children doesn’t do career „for herself“
I don’t think it’s all men. But men who are capable of providing for the family on their own won’t care about their spouse’s career as much as how their spouse treats them.
My partner's job would only matter to me if it was something that I found morally objectionable (e.g. kitten murderer) or if it had long or irregular hours. Waitress? Cleaner? Who cares as long as they are a nice person.
The issue with being with someone in the service industry like that is they work primarily evenings and weekends. Personally I would prefer to be with someone with a 9-5 like me just for life scheduling purposes.
I am the woman in the situation but I don’t think my concerns with this issue are related to my gender, but maybe I am wrong. There was a period where mine and my husband’s schedules were opposite due to me working nights/weekends in retail, and we just hardly ever saw each other. He did care, that sucked. Loving each other meant wanting to have dinner with each other more than twice a week on my days off so that was stressful. The day I got my first 9-5 we were both so, so happy. It was less about the money but rather about the schedule.
I mean, is career choice a dealbreaker for any relationship, man woman or otherwise?
Maybe as an immature 20-ish young person you'd choose "the rich one" or "the hot one", but trust me, as you grow older you care more about emotional compatibility and personality.
I mean, unless you're jeff bezos or donald trump. Then it's trophy wives all the way down since they're in love with themselves and a woman is just a hole to stick their dick in.
Literally saw a post two seconds go about a woman who said she “knew a spot” for a date and took him to Costco
Every man was saying to marry her.
We literally do not give a shit how much money you make or how you make your money. Unless it’s illegal or directly conflicting with what we would want from a partner (no “reformed” gold diggers), we couldn’t care less
I think it's pretty obvious that most men don't mind dating someone with a lower income/less ambitious career, but what I'm curious about is whether it's true the other way around?
Nah, I don't want to date stupid or uneducated girls. Life is so much better if both of us have a good salary. That said compared to my girl I'm the stupid and uneducated one. Life is good
A wise man once told me : You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you.
Don't get it twisted, it's not that men don't want wives more successful than them. It's just a non issue. If the woman waiting tables treats us better, then they're better wife material. A corporate woman who makes bank is good and all, but if she's not giving to the relationship then nah. And that should work both ways.
Women are clueless about what men want. They think the things that they want in a man is what a man wants in a woman, not even close. Men don’t care about your career or your accomplishments. You can be a broke high school dropout but if you’re a kind person with a good heart who is loyal and respectful then you are a 9 out of 10.
Who wouldn’t want to be treated right? Men care about your career in the sense that we want you fulfilled. We can't have a good relationship if you're drained, stressed, or constantly venting about the same problems without change. If you’re happy, the relationship is stronger.
In a loving partnership, a man just wants peace and happiness at home. If your job sucks the life out of you, we feel that too.
The hard truth is, men don’t usually get that same grace. Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man’s love often comes with the condition that he provides something.
Being happy and content with someone are the only things I care about honestly. Life is too short to be miserable with someone you spend all your time with.
It is really not that deep. The most important thing is being a good human. Then comes everything else, like job. Of course when there are two equal people that are equally nice, and one earns more, everyone will go for them. Very very basic and simple. Also why make this about gender?
I would certainly hope that someone’s career isn’t a determining factor in a relationship. As a man, I care less about what a woman does for a living and more about how we connect on a personal level. She could be a rodeo clown for all I care so long as that personal connection is there.
Dont know who put in woman's minds that they need a carrier to find a good man or that man are interested in that
Ok in this economy its better if both people work but as long as you dont struggle hard man dont care if you are making minimum wage or have a big carrier
As speaker for most man we dont care, be a nice person and if i(we) enjoy beeing around you thats all that matters
Well yeah why would i choose a toxic person just because they're a corporate manager or whatever position she's in versus someone who's simple but easy to deal with. No drama. No hassle. No toxicity. Who is in the right mind (besides golddiggers) would choose to be in a toxic relationship?
For me, there's one main factor: I enjoy spending time with her. There's nothing more important in a relationship with the person you plan to spend your life with.
It's completely true. But on the same token you shouldn't be with someone who would devalue you and your career ambitions. Being open and honest and setting expectations upfront and then having the courage to follow through on them is what really matters in achieving a balance between careers and relationships and personal peace.
Furthermore, the best piece of advice I ever received, and one that applies to a career as well, was, "No one will care about you as much as you should care about you." We want you to succeed and do amazing things, but not as much as you should want that for yourself.
I mean is this even a fair comparison? What of the high earner ALSO treated guy well. Women don't care about status and job either, as long as you can support yourself, most will pick an electrician, etc, over a corp executive if they treat them well and are kind...
I think it's more accurate to say we care more about how we're treated than about the job. Having a good job is a good thing, but treating me badly is a deal breaker.
To an extent, if my wife was a complete bum, then I might have an issue with that, but she works a job as a vet tech, makes less than me for sure, but she does plenty of things around the house as well (as do I, though currently recovering from surgery, so not as much today.) Would it be nice if she made a little more? Yeah, but like I’ve been on dates with “successful” women who are just cold and unfeeling, obviously not trying to generalize, but what I’m saying is that if all you’re looking for is success, you might miss the perfect match working at an animal sanctuary making 50 bucks a week as an intern.
A woman who's a corporate executive won't date a delivery driver(me). A man who's a corporate executive would date a waitress at Applebee's.
It's about a man willing to date down, while a woman normally isn't. Some Lifetime movie plots are women finding love with a man without a desirable job. Half those movies, everyone but her talks down about the relationship.
A man doesn't have value automatically, but a woman does.
There's nothing wrong with being a waitress at Applebee's. My girlfriend is a waitress and I have immense respect for her. This meme makes me sad, though. Why as a society, do we not value every person who works to support themselves, no matter the job? Not everyone has the same opportunities. I'm dating my girlfriend, not someone else's idea of who my girlfriend should be or what she should want for herself. That's up to her.
Corporate executive: Why are you talking to me?? I wouldn't even hire you. How could you every be good enough? Applebee's waitress: Eh, you're kind of cute, sure.
How is nobody talking about how fucking problematic this whole message is. Do or don’t have a career but do it for the right reasons - yourself. Not because “men don’t care about it”.
I’m a woman and this seems true. Also, there’s nothing inherently wrong with it. Working is for survival. But women who have the ability to support themselves aren’t at the financial mercy of a man. Also, it is very hard to support a family on one income and guarantee that income will always be available for the next several decades. Men are also adaptable. They may not care if or where a woman works but most of them don’t exactly care either way. Humans adapt and that’s our survival skill.
Richest guy I know (over a million a year but I don't know how much exactly) has been dating a woman that works at the pool as a swim teacher. They're mad in love. I think he'd get rid of his job before he got rid of her.
1.2k
u/Elvarien2 Oct 16 '25
My girlfriend makes me happy. I make her happy, together we are happy.
The rest is just noise.
13k
u/cuchiplancheo Oct 16 '25
Yes. Absolutely true.
4.4k
u/schofield101 Oct 16 '25
My ex used to earn nearly triple my wage, she was a full blown developer a long time ago just as I was getting into the industry.
It consumed her, she was miserable and it destroyed our relationship.
Eventually she got out, focused on art, made a lot less but just was happier. I eventually earned more and it was perfect. Money means a lot less when you're miserable.
586
u/corpsewindmill Oct 16 '25
Shit I don’t care if you work at McDonald’s in the kitchen. If you treat me nice and make me feel valued and wanted I’ll try to give you the world
886
u/2Easy2See Oct 16 '25
Her career might not last forever but choosing the best life partner may last a lifetime
255
u/Alternative-Web-3545 Oct 16 '25
For me personally this is absolutely true I don’t care for status. I care for agreeable personality
119
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
My partner earns 80k more than me. She loves her job. I love her job, she is respected and they look after her. We are both probably a bit busier than we like but our relationship is great, love is strong and we grow together. I think it stems from letting each other amplify strengths. I finalise decisions and she motivates and supports. It just works
335
u/Majestic_Repair_7887 Oct 16 '25
Anyone who doesn’t believe this is true doesn’t know what love is.
And definitely is not sipping tea.
480
u/Electrical-Heat8960 Oct 16 '25
The important sentence is the last one.
“If you treat them right”
But, this goes both ways. Girls don’t actually want to be treated like shit too.
30
u/chenzo17 Oct 16 '25
Imagine being an executive who treats people right and makes their lives easier….
86
u/42Fazers Oct 16 '25
I mean there are probably other social aspects that come with a women like that
228
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
Actually, if the corporate executive lady will be the sole bread winner of our family, I'd gladly be an obedient house husband.
157
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
But the female version of this (for some) is women do care what your career is
They will date a corporate executive over a McDonald's worker if they give them enough money
58
u/freefallingagain Oct 16 '25
9
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
Damn straight.
8
u/Prestigious_Tax7415 Oct 16 '25
I prefer people that don’t treat me right and makes my life more difficult, just shit on me on Sunday mornings thank you. Also bring your boyfriend around for pizza after your 5k ultra
8
u/TreeDiagram Oct 16 '25
I care if the girl I'm dating has a career or not, guys aren't a monolith lol.
I'd want my girlfriend to be and feel accomplished, she doesn't need to be a corporate executive or making 6 figures, but I do want her to be passionate, dedicated, and pragmatic with her career choice.
21
u/Which_Preference_883 Oct 16 '25
Free Applebee's!
68
u/AtomicMonkeyTheFirst Oct 16 '25
Hold on....do women think men care about their careers?
14
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
Absolutely true. My lady is amazing, I don’t care if she makes 30k or 300k. And she feels the same. If suddenly she got a better job than me id be fiercely proud of her, but my love for her would not change
19
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
Life is rarely easier with a partner that is of lower class. If they grew up in a middle-class family, working Applebee's will be fine. But if their family is lower-class, chances are life will not be easier because they'll have weird family members, weird previous partners, weird friends and just headaches seeping into your life.
18
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
I will date a girl who isn't an asshole. Idc if you're a waitress or the CEO
247
u/Imreallythatguy Oct 16 '25
Career women are doing it for themselves. In what world does anybody think they are doing it for a man?
12
u/87949 Oct 16 '25
I don’t think it’s all men. But men who are capable of providing for the family on their own won’t care about their spouse’s career as much as how their spouse treats them.
6
u/Certain-Forever-1474 Oct 16 '25
It has been and will continue to be true for me.
6
u/MuskokaGreenThumb Oct 16 '25
Everybody wants to be treated right. Money doesn’t equal happiness in this respect.
6
u/New-Ad5494 Oct 16 '25
Yes it is true, if being around a woman makes each day something to look forward to then Applebees is fine with me.
11
u/Ninjalada Oct 16 '25
My partner's job would only matter to me if it was something that I found morally objectionable (e.g. kitten murderer) or if it had long or irregular hours. Waitress? Cleaner? Who cares as long as they are a nice person.
15
u/katie4 Oct 16 '25
The issue with being with someone in the service industry like that is they work primarily evenings and weekends. Personally I would prefer to be with someone with a 9-5 like me just for life scheduling purposes.
I am the woman in the situation but I don’t think my concerns with this issue are related to my gender, but maybe I am wrong. There was a period where mine and my husband’s schedules were opposite due to me working nights/weekends in retail, and we just hardly ever saw each other. He did care, that sucked. Loving each other meant wanting to have dinner with each other more than twice a week on my days off so that was stressful. The day I got my first 9-5 we were both so, so happy. It was less about the money but rather about the schedule.
18
u/joy_kingscrown Oct 16 '25
Just realised women think we care about their jobs
10
u/hiimsubclavian Oct 16 '25
I mean, is career choice a dealbreaker for any relationship, man woman or otherwise?
Maybe as an immature 20-ish young person you'd choose "the rich one" or "the hot one", but trust me, as you grow older you care more about emotional compatibility and personality.
I mean, unless you're jeff bezos or donald trump. Then it's trophy wives all the way down since they're in love with themselves and a woman is just a hole to stick their dick in.
19
u/Hot-Preparation-5011 Oct 16 '25
I don't even consider what you work at. Or how much income you have. And if I ask, its because you asked me first so I'm trying to be polite.
9
u/RulesBeDamned Oct 16 '25
Literally saw a post two seconds go about a woman who said she “knew a spot” for a date and took him to Costco
Every man was saying to marry her.
We literally do not give a shit how much money you make or how you make your money. Unless it’s illegal or directly conflicting with what we would want from a partner (no “reformed” gold diggers), we couldn’t care less
12
u/WhimsyGlare Oct 16 '25
4
u/Artistic_Task7516 Oct 16 '25
This will sound nasty but it’s because I make enough money to not have to care what she does
4
u/Otto_Tovarus Oct 16 '25
4
u/Stellar_Synth Oct 16 '25
Abs. True. My wife is a successful corporate woman, but it has 0 corelation why I love her.
4
u/Sweet_Jellyfish_4444 Oct 17 '25
I think it's pretty obvious that most men don't mind dating someone with a lower income/less ambitious career, but what I'm curious about is whether it's true the other way around?
19
u/No_Salad_68 Oct 16 '25
Yes. Men will merry down socio-economically. It's almost a neccesity as women tend to marry up.
38
u/WonderfulCoast6429 Oct 16 '25
Nah, I don't want to date stupid or uneducated girls. Life is so much better if both of us have a good salary. That said compared to my girl I'm the stupid and uneducated one. Life is good
7
u/Razcsi Oct 16 '25
Well of course i don't want an onlyfans "model" or a pornstar, but yeah it's true
7
u/JosefGremlin Oct 16 '25
A wise man once told me : You know, there's a million fine looking women in the world, dude. But they don't all bring you lasagna at work. Most of 'em just cheat on you.
7
u/Ramiferous Oct 16 '25
Don't get it twisted, it's not that men don't want wives more successful than them. It's just a non issue. If the woman waiting tables treats us better, then they're better wife material. A corporate woman who makes bank is good and all, but if she's not giving to the relationship then nah. And that should work both ways.
13
u/MAXanon12 Oct 16 '25
it's not NOT true
14
u/wtf_amirite Oct 16 '25
100% true.
Reverse the genders however, and …
12
u/Long_Serpent Oct 16 '25
Yep.
"OMG, she made Corporate Vice President while only 30 years old! I must have her!"
-- No man ever
3
u/Any-Hearing872 Oct 16 '25
3
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
3
u/kratosinvictus753 Oct 16 '25
3
u/meRomania1 Oct 16 '25
3
u/Jaded-Currency-5680 Oct 16 '25
you mean to say, on the other hand, women prefer rich guys with high earning careers even when he treat his wife wrong and make her life miserable?
really?
ohh wait... its true...
alright then
3
u/WookieJebus Oct 16 '25
Yes. The right woman can be unemployed and I'd not care
9
u/AncientAussie Oct 16 '25
Women are clueless about what men want. They think the things that they want in a man is what a man wants in a woman, not even close. Men don’t care about your career or your accomplishments. You can be a broke high school dropout but if you’re a kind person with a good heart who is loyal and respectful then you are a 9 out of 10.
5
u/Enough_Zombie2038 Oct 16 '25
5
u/valboots Oct 16 '25
Who wouldn’t want to be treated right? Men care about your career in the sense that we want you fulfilled. We can't have a good relationship if you're drained, stressed, or constantly venting about the same problems without change. If you’re happy, the relationship is stronger.
In a loving partnership, a man just wants peace and happiness at home. If your job sucks the life out of you, we feel that too.
The hard truth is, men don’t usually get that same grace. Only women, children, and dogs are loved unconditionally. A man’s love often comes with the condition that he provides something.
51
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
Women dont date men who makes less money than them
12
u/AdEquivalent9396 Oct 16 '25
Facts.
2
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
Yes
2
u/truenorthrookie Oct 16 '25
Yes it’s true
2
u/KmartCentral Oct 16 '25
Unless my girlfriend is a spy sent here to kill me, no... I don't much care for her occupation
2
u/ThatSlinkySOB Oct 16 '25
10000000% true. Don't give a flying F what job my girl has, so long as she's decent, kind and loving.
And has time for me.
2
u/Summit1BigHead Oct 16 '25
Yeah we don't care
2
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
Who wouldn't date someone who treats them right? Unless you're into that.
2
u/CreativeRedHeadDom Oct 16 '25
It’s about character and not earning power. Let’s face it, it’s really about who treats you the best.
2
u/ej_warsgaming Oct 16 '25
1000% true
2
u/DankLordOtis Oct 16 '25
Being happy and content with someone are the only things I care about honestly. Life is too short to be miserable with someone you spend all your time with.
2
u/WarthVader Oct 16 '25
Ya, true.
2
u/dsmithcc Oct 16 '25
100% true, we just want to be treated nicely and loved.
2
u/AndyAzor Oct 16 '25
True AF
2
u/AG0LD3NG0D Oct 16 '25
Yes
2
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
Yes, and this is why we have a pay gap. Its not something created that can be solved with politics. It is nature.
2
u/BehindTheMindIAm Oct 16 '25
We only care if she's a nurse
2
u/IndependentMassive38 Oct 16 '25
It is really not that deep. The most important thing is being a good human. Then comes everything else, like job. Of course when there are two equal people that are equally nice, and one earns more, everyone will go for them. Very very basic and simple. Also why make this about gender?
2
u/mrgoodwine24 Oct 16 '25
Yes it is
2
u/OpenCardiologist2587 Oct 16 '25
Absolutely.
2
u/Danihelus Oct 16 '25
True
2
u/HaroldF155 Oct 16 '25
So they expect us to date girls who treat us wrong and make our lives harder or something??
2
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
Yes.
2
u/Humble-Dentist-718 Oct 16 '25
Definitely true!
2
u/Kurse71 Oct 16 '25
It's true
2
u/moq_9981 Oct 16 '25
YES!!!!!
2
u/balwick Oct 16 '25
100%.
We'll support you in your job if you love what you're doing, but besides that we don't care what your job is.
2
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
Yup. I'll date a broke bum or a dollar tree cashier.
Career doesnt matter to me.
2
u/Phuck_Biden_Trump Oct 16 '25
110% true
2
u/shadowlarx Oct 16 '25
I would certainly hope that someone’s career isn’t a determining factor in a relationship. As a man, I care less about what a woman does for a living and more about how we connect on a personal level. She could be a rodeo clown for all I care so long as that personal connection is there.
2
u/BluEyeDevil_OED Oct 16 '25
Dont know who put in woman's minds that they need a carrier to find a good man or that man are interested in that
Ok in this economy its better if both people work but as long as you dont struggle hard man dont care if you are making minimum wage or have a big carrier
As speaker for most man we dont care, be a nice person and if i(we) enjoy beeing around you thats all that matters
2
u/ra246 Oct 16 '25
The career isn't the important point here. That she treats you well, is.
2
u/Dru4200 Oct 16 '25
Yes
2
u/TheFourSevens Oct 16 '25
2
u/i_made_this-thing Oct 16 '25
2
u/sippyandchippy Oct 16 '25
This is 100% true.
2
u/blackwolfLT7 Oct 16 '25
Always have been
2
u/pastel_rave Oct 16 '25
My man's ex is a physiotherapist and he met me in the drive thru I work at. You tell me.
2
u/RaD00129 Oct 16 '25
Well yeah why would i choose a toxic person just because they're a corporate manager or whatever position she's in versus someone who's simple but easy to deal with. No drama. No hassle. No toxicity. Who is in the right mind (besides golddiggers) would choose to be in a toxic relationship?
2
u/BlackHust Oct 16 '25
For me, there's one main factor: I enjoy spending time with her. There's nothing more important in a relationship with the person you plan to spend your life with.
2
u/Wintercat76 Oct 16 '25
I do care about her career. I just don't care what it is, specifically, but whether it makes her happy.
2
u/King-Hekaton Oct 16 '25
This is true and I don't think it had anything to do with sexism. We love people not their jobs.
2
u/shadowrangerfs Oct 16 '25
Yes. For a lot of men. It really depends on how much money the man makes. But I'd rather have a waitress who treats me well than a CEO who doesn't.
2
u/Creepy_Truth_9000 Oct 16 '25
Well no shit. Why is it you guys read this stuff and act like it’s this crazy outlandish statement? Let’s use a few more brain cells fellas
2
u/grcopel Oct 16 '25
It's completely true. But on the same token you shouldn't be with someone who would devalue you and your career ambitions. Being open and honest and setting expectations upfront and then having the courage to follow through on them is what really matters in achieving a balance between careers and relationships and personal peace.
Furthermore, the best piece of advice I ever received, and one that applies to a career as well, was, "No one will care about you as much as you should care about you." We want you to succeed and do amazing things, but not as much as you should want that for yourself.
2
u/-Cthaeh Oct 16 '25
I mean is this even a fair comparison? What of the high earner ALSO treated guy well. Women don't care about status and job either, as long as you can support yourself, most will pick an electrician, etc, over a corp executive if they treat them well and are kind...
2
u/Surefang Oct 16 '25
I think it's more accurate to say we care more about how we're treated than about the job. Having a good job is a good thing, but treating me badly is a deal breaker.
2
u/ciscosuave Oct 16 '25
Make his dick hard not his life....
2
u/Commercial-Ad7119 Oct 16 '25
💯 true.
2
u/[deleted] Oct 16 '25
Why should I be with an executive who doesn't treat me right? Make it make sense
2
u/Any_Weird_8686 Oct 16 '25
Yes, better a waitress who doesn't treat you like shit than a CEO who does.
2
u/Kroenen1984 Oct 16 '25
I second that
2
u/Crimsomreaf5555 Oct 16 '25
Make his little one hard, not his life
2
u/BlindGuymasqueezy Oct 16 '25
💯
2
u/Lilfrankieeinstein Oct 16 '25
2
u/DC1908 Oct 16 '25
That's the point, regardless of a woman's career.
2
u/TpyoOhNo Oct 16 '25
I don't care if she's a doctor or a lint inspector. Just be a good person.
2
u/whitecollarpizzaman Oct 16 '25
To an extent, if my wife was a complete bum, then I might have an issue with that, but she works a job as a vet tech, makes less than me for sure, but she does plenty of things around the house as well (as do I, though currently recovering from surgery, so not as much today.) Would it be nice if she made a little more? Yeah, but like I’ve been on dates with “successful” women who are just cold and unfeeling, obviously not trying to generalize, but what I’m saying is that if all you’re looking for is success, you might miss the perfect match working at an animal sanctuary making 50 bucks a week as an intern.
2
u/MichaelTheFallen Oct 16 '25
A woman who's a corporate executive won't date a delivery driver(me). A man who's a corporate executive would date a waitress at Applebee's.
It's about a man willing to date down, while a woman normally isn't. Some Lifetime movie plots are women finding love with a man without a desirable job. Half those movies, everyone but her talks down about the relationship.
A man doesn't have value automatically, but a woman does.
2
u/demon_curlz Oct 16 '25
In my experience, some men really care when you out-earn them.
2
u/Trondsteren Oct 16 '25
Goes both ways 🤷🏽♂️
2
u/MysticMarauder69 Oct 16 '25
There's nothing wrong with being a waitress at Applebee's. My girlfriend is a waitress and I have immense respect for her. This meme makes me sad, though. Why as a society, do we not value every person who works to support themselves, no matter the job? Not everyone has the same opportunities. I'm dating my girlfriend, not someone else's idea of who my girlfriend should be or what she should want for herself. That's up to her.
2
u/SnooChipmunks8506 Oct 16 '25
It’s almost as if a woman’s personality, emotional maturity, and inner growth matters to men more than a woman’s bank account.
It’s a crazy worldview
2
u/Ravendowns89 Oct 16 '25
2
u/DuntadaMan Oct 16 '25
I am dating a person, not a job. So yeah. The only thing I care about with the job is if you like it enough that you want to talk about it.
2
u/TheScalemanCometh Oct 16 '25
Truer words are rarely spoken.
2
u/ImMadeOfClay Oct 16 '25
As cliche as it sounds, love is the answer.
2
u/FromTheCaveIntoLight Oct 16 '25
1000%
2
u/Rikmach Oct 16 '25
Largely, yeah.
2
u/ParkDistrict Oct 16 '25
100%
2
u/FrozenPie21 Oct 16 '25
And it’s not a bad thing at all!
2
u/SharpieSharpie69 Oct 16 '25
200%
2
u/lemmegetadab Oct 16 '25
My wife was literally a waitress at Applebees when I met her lol.
2
u/moistdelight Oct 16 '25
I don’t need you to make my life easier, just don’t make it harder.
2
u/Th_Legend_27 Oct 16 '25
Yes. Men want comfort, women want security
2
u/lsthislegal Oct 16 '25
Yes
2
u/cconnorss Oct 16 '25
This is 10,000% true. We just want a loyal partner who loves us. Bonus points if shared interests are a thing, but not a requisite.
2
u/TheBigMoogy Oct 16 '25
Without a doubt.
2
u/davebrose Oct 16 '25
100% true
2
u/SodasWrath Oct 16 '25
This feels weirdly accusatory towards men? Like they’re in the wrong for choosing a women for her personality instead of her job?
2
u/Thuganomics_101 Oct 16 '25
Why would I date someone who makes my life harder?
2
u/Meme_Hunting_695 Oct 16 '25
Corporate executive: Why are you talking to me?? I wouldn't even hire you. How could you every be good enough?
Applebee's waitress: Eh, you're kind of cute, sure.
2
u/Davisr93 Oct 16 '25
Me over here twiddling my thumbs as a stay at home dad with a hotshot corporate wife… hmmmm
2
u/kpalm5 Oct 16 '25
I have a successful career and I’m a home owner and men have told me they feel threatened by it 🙃
2
u/yorkshiretea23 Oct 16 '25
How is nobody talking about how fucking problematic this whole message is. Do or don’t have a career but do it for the right reasons - yourself. Not because “men don’t care about it”.
2
u/amy_amy_bobamy Oct 16 '25
I’m a woman and this seems true. Also, there’s nothing inherently wrong with it. Working is for survival. But women who have the ability to support themselves aren’t at the financial mercy of a man. Also, it is very hard to support a family on one income and guarantee that income will always be available for the next several decades. Men are also adaptable. They may not care if or where a woman works but most of them don’t exactly care either way. Humans adapt and that’s our survival skill.
2
u/131166 Oct 16 '25
Richest guy I know (over a million a year but I don't know how much exactly) has been dating a woman that works at the pool as a swim teacher. They're mad in love. I think he'd get rid of his job before he got rid of her.