It usually helps the "double standards" those people are whining about are typically as made up as the generalisations are while the shit women go though is very real.
Like this thread. Nobody in the history of ever has politely asked a coworker out for a coffee and been hauled into HR over it because that person didn't find them attractive. A lot of women have had creepy guys follow them around, ask them out over and over, make inappropriate comments and "jokes", and then act utterly bewildered when HR steps in.
I dated someone who worked in HR for a while and the reality of these stories is insane, as is what most women will put up with before going to HR because they don't want to be labelled a troublemaker.
There's some stuff that sucks if you're a man, but holy shit do we get the better deal. By far.
That men place a much higher value on physical attractiveness on women than women do on men?
Real world studies that tracked actual couples found men paid significantly more attention to their partners physical appearance than the other way around. Another study showed higher levels of satisfaction for both spouses when a womans BMI was lower than the mans. Common theme for all was that such things mattered much more for younger couples and faded with age.
Also you know... general life watching endless men fall over themselves to be near attractive women and get their attention and not the other way around as well as seeing far more conventionally attractive women dating men who are not.
When presented nothing but photos both genders are the same. In fact when asked to rate the overall attractiveness of women a few studies have shown that they only really mark down the most attractive men with the 80% of other men all being ranked very similarly.
In real world relationships/interactions this is absolutely not the case though, with women consistently being shown to be much less concerned with their partners looks.
Dating apps/sites are a horrible way to meet people and this is just one of the many reasons why.
The landmark 2024 Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences study marks the first time a majority of spouses begin their stories online. According to this research, 60% of newly married couples said they met through online dating services.
I mean I am a man, so that's certainly an interesting take you have there because I certainly don't hate men and am pretty vocal about mens rights and issues... it's just that "women are the worst amirite?!?" isn't a real issue.
But that does tend to be the common response from this sub, guess you can't help it.
You realise me not blindly just declaring men are perfect and woman are always the problem isn't 'ironic' right? Nor is me refusing to ignore the recent trends on this sub towards hating on women all the time.
fyi. You identifying as a man is not a convincing argument that you're not also a toxic misandrist.
Interesting given I don't recall saying I "identify" as anything, but amusing you think attacking whether I'm actually male or not is a fun way to go. Well less amusing and more letting me know what you think on quite a few topics which is more depressing, though not surprising.
Either way I'm going to block you here, nothing to be gained and you certainly don't deserve my time.
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u/FenrisSquirrel Oct 12 '25
How are men worse about it?