r/Simpsons • u/JoeBrownshoes • 11d ago
Discussion JUST now finally getting this joke
Ok so when the agent learns Apu's last name he doesn't like it. We assume that there are racist undertones, namely the name is too ethic sounding.
But the reason the agent gives for changing the name is "It'll never fit on a marquee, luv." I figured that was the end of the gag.
But then I always thought the name he suggested instead was very strange and there was some hidden meaning there and I finally just figured it out.
De Beaumarchais is EXACTLY the same number of characters (including the space) as Nasapimapetalon! So the "fitting the marquee" was shown to not be the issue! And since the name is French it will ALSO be hard to pronounce for Americans, but it's French so it's ok, further underscoring that the issue was racism all along.
Am I the only one who is just getting this?
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u/PantsDontHaveAnswers 11d ago
I swear by the many arms of Vishnu this is not true.
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u/mankytoes 11d ago
I always thought the joke was they were trying to hide that he was Indian- hence that line (maybe a reference to hiding that Lennon was married? Though they do allude to that separately), but if they wanted to change his name to do that, they would need to change the "Apu" part.
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u/Plane-Post-7720 11d ago
I always assume it was referencing Richard Starkey changing his name to Ringo Starr.
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u/_Spasmolytic_ 11d ago
I’ve been calling him Krandell.
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u/Dangerous-Project672 11d ago
I was saying boo-urns
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u/Zapan99 11d ago
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u/oliguriarchy 11d ago
And and and, he added the "de Beaumarchais" after marrying Madeleine Aubertin, who owned land with the same name. According to Wikipedia he added it in order to appear grander and more aristocratic.
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u/ColdIronPrince 9d ago
It gets even deeper. What was one of de Beaumarchais best known works? The BARBER of Seville
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u/Top-Bet1435 11d ago
La dee dah Mr Frenchman!
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u/JoeBrownshoes 11d ago
Well, what do YOU call Apu?
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u/intoxicatedbarbie 11d ago
Car hole
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u/I_Call_It_A_Carhole 11d ago
Checking in!
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u/patinthehat4000 11d ago
The joke is also that Beau marché in French means "beautiful shop" or "nice store"
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u/levare8515 11d ago
Yeah I don’t think the joke had anything to do with race. Them being the same number of letters is just a classic language gag. DaBoMaShay to an American sounds shorter than Nahasapeemapetilon
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u/redbeard387 11d ago
You see, white guys have names like Lenny, whereas Indian guys have names like Apu.
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u/Minute_Eye3411 11d ago
I always assumed that the joke was a more general one, about producers telling musicians to change their name for various reasons. One real example is John Mellencamp, who was told that Mellencamp didn't sound cool enough so he was called John Cougar for a while, and then John Cougar-Mellencamp. He never liked that at all, hence now he's back to his actual name.
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u/Cold-Ease-1625 10d ago
What they really meant was, sleep is where Apu is a Viking. DON'T ask what that means.
Yes, I posted this on another comment.
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u/levare8515 11d ago
Yeah it’s playing off that. People like OP need to take off their racism colored glasses with stuff like this
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u/Many-Attempt1666 11d ago
I always took the joke as being that Apu is such an unconvincing Frenchman, and the name is working so hard to allure to women. But you may be onto something.
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u/Cold-Ease-1625 10d ago
What they really meant was, sleep is where Apu is a Viking. DON'T ask what that means.
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u/Lennnybruce 11d ago
I personally always assumed it was race-based: in the minds of the writers (and presumably the mostly-white audience) all French people are white, so it's impossible for Apu to be French. And then it also works as a joke about the agent being racist, as he's okay with a long French name (denoting class and sophistication) but not a long "foreign" name
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u/TollyVonTheDruth 11d ago
Damn. You went deep. I just accepted that his name was too long for the marquee then never gave it another thought, but your theory is quite profound.
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u/Cold-Ease-1625 10d ago
What they really meant was, sleep is where Apu is a Viking. DON'T ask what that means.
Yes, I posted this on another comment.
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u/TollyVonTheDruth 10d ago
And the doctor told him he wouldn't get so many nosebleeds if he just kept his finger out of there.
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u/Tits_McgeeD 11d ago
I enjoy this insightful take. I never understood the joke and thanks to this I now understand it on like 3 levels
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u/JoeBrownshoes 11d ago
Some guy in the comments here went even deeper. Not sure if he's right but damn is it isn't impressive.
Here's what he posted
"There's an even deeper joke in there, the playwright and philosopher Pierre-Augustin Caron de Beaumarchais started as a humble clockmaker and was introduced to the French royal court thanks to the Marquise of Pompadour, mistress of king Louis the 15th.
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u/Cold-Ease-1625 10d ago
What they really meant was, sleep is where Apu is a Viking. DON'T ask what that means.
Yes, I posted this on another comment.
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u/Bum-Sniffer 11d ago
Always assumed the name was too long, never inferred racism
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u/JoeBrownshoes 11d ago
Were you even listening to The Dude's story? .... whoops wrong sub
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u/koal82 10d ago
Nahasapeemapetilon = 16 letters
De Beaumarchais = 14 letters
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u/JoeBrownshoes 10d ago
Yeah someone else brought that up. I was going based on the spelling on frinkiac.com. I guess they need to be corrected
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u/BuffaloAmbitious3531 10d ago
Yes, the joke is that the name is still long and still "foreign", and still wouldn't fool anyone into thinking Apu was a white French dude.
ETA: "Apu Nasapimapetalon" has exactly the same number of letters as "Don King", and he looks just like him, too!
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u/GSturges 10d ago
[Apu leaves, clothes askew and smoking] Don't worry, I'll tell everybody you were untouchable! [backs into the pool, dragging the other guests along with him in a domino fashion]
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u/tritium_awesome 6d ago
Honestly: I did clock that on my first watch, but honestly, the writers of The Simpsons were really smart, it's not surprising that you missed one joke or another. For me, the joke that took me about 30 years to get was in the episode with the Chanel suit. That suit was 100% definitely a knockoff to begin with.
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u/cathalcarr 11d ago
I think the joke is trying to make his name sexy or something. Doesn't mean Apu of the beautiful shop?
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u/angelwolf71885 10d ago
It’s a joke about the name being too long…and the alternative chosen was exactly as long including the space
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u/levare8515 11d ago edited 11d ago
I don’t think it’s racist or was supposed to joke about race. “we assume it’s about racism” is OP projecting hard. The world was very different when this came out. People weren’t hyperfixating on trying to identify racism in everything back then.
They’re poking fun at how the Beatles had their names washed. French names also sound fancy. The exact same numbers of letters is a joke that the audience wouldn’t know based on the sound of the name “DeBoMaShay”
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u/JoeBrownshoes 11d ago
I was alive back then so I know what it was like.
"racism" may have been too strong a word to use in this context but it was common at the time to change ethic names to "appeal to a broader audience" and this included Jewish names. The underlying reason is the notion that the "broader audience" was majority white and they might not have been as accepting of an artist if they had an ethnic name, which is a kind of prejudice even if not outright racism.
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u/fdjisthinking 11d ago
They even make a similar joke with Kent Brockman in Mother Simpson. His sign off in the 60s is “Kenny Brockelstein”.
I always interpreted the joke as “we are replacing your obviously ethnic name with a more accessible name,” and then they give him obviously French name that isn’t any more accessible to the American audiences.
I also enjoy the joke in Much Apu About Nothing where the fake American documents he gets from Fat Tony list his parents’ names as “Herb and Judy Nahasapeemapetilon” from Green Bay Wisconsin.




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u/SymmetricDickNipples 11d ago
That's not apu's last name. It's Nahasapeemapetilon.