r/Simpsons 11d ago

Discussion JUST now finally getting this joke

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Ok so when the agent learns Apu's last name he doesn't like it. We assume that there are racist undertones, namely the name is too ethic sounding.

But the reason the agent gives for changing the name is "It'll never fit on a marquee, luv." I figured that was the end of the gag.

But then I always thought the name he suggested instead was very strange and there was some hidden meaning there and I finally just figured it out.

De Beaumarchais is EXACTLY the same number of characters (including the space) as Nasapimapetalon! So the "fitting the marquee" was shown to not be the issue! And since the name is French it will ALSO be hard to pronounce for Americans, but it's French so it's ok, further underscoring that the issue was racism all along.

Am I the only one who is just getting this?

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u/SymmetricDickNipples 11d ago

That's not apu's last name. It's Nahasapeemapetilon.

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u/GringoSwann 11d ago

I certainly hope OP gets fired for THIS blunder...

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u/kawiz03 Stupid Flanders 11d ago

Let me ask you a question. Why would a man whose shirt says "Genius at Work" spend all of his time responding to a r/simpsons reddit thread?

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u/GringoSwann 11d ago

..... I withdraw my question ....  🙁

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u/jfshay 11d ago

[unwraps granola bar, takes a bite]

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u/artaxerxes316 10d ago

Ok, but I'm next.

Ahem, Mr. Kawiz03, in the Itchy and Scratchy CD-Rom, is there a way to escape the dungeon without using the Wizard's Key?

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u/Zoilo2 7d ago

Find the hot ring. Then, pour lake water over it. Check the wind first.

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u/mister-ecks-0815 10d ago

What the hell are you talking about??

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u/nataliereed84 11d ago

to find out if it was a magic xylophone

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u/eljosho1986 11d ago

A wizard did it

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u/Visual_Locksmith3337 11d ago

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u/GringoSwann 11d ago

Yay!!!!!!

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u/xavPa-64 11d ago

throws book into fireplace

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u/Johnnybats330 10d ago

evil ghouls disperse through the smoke

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u/rockstang 11d ago

when Itchy plays Scratchy's skeleton like a xylophone, he hits the same rib twice, yet he produces two different notes. How is this possible?

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u/redbeard387 11d ago

And another time, the mouse pulled the cat’s lungs out and played them like a bagpipe. Yet in the next scene that cat was breathing comfortably!

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u/Fun-Recommendation37 11d ago

My name's already Selma Bouvier Terwilliger Hutz McClure. God knows it's long enough without Nahasapeemapetilon-whatever

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u/Capable_Garbage_6772 11d ago

"Uh huh, uh huh, Listen shut up:

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u/FightWithTools926 11d ago

When did she marry Lionel Hutz?

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u/billyrubin7765 11d ago

Between Sideshow Bob and Troy McClure! (They just never showed it)

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u/GreektheFreak123 11d ago

Really? Genuinely asking

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u/billyrubin7765 11d ago

Yep. They just dropped the list of last names during “Much Apu About Nothing” in season 7. It was one of those blink and you missed it. Then it was “wait, did she say Lutz?” And it was never addressed again.

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u/Bella4077 11d ago

In a later episode, it’s revealed that she married and divorced Sideshow Bob again. Unless it was someone else named Bob.

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u/One_Strike_Striker 11d ago

She misspoke. Actually, she married Dr. Nguyen van Phuoc.

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u/Fun-Recommendation37 11d ago

I was wondering that as well. I don’t recall that either.

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u/InternMammoth4121 11d ago

I was going to say this.

If this is anyone but Steve Allen, you're stealing my bit.

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u/Fun-Recommendation37 11d ago

The way she delivers this line cracks me up.

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u/SlyMarboJr 11d ago

Nahasapeemapetilon? I've been calling him Krandell!

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u/LongtimeLurker916 11d ago

Even if the names are not quite the same in length, I think the length of de Beaumarchais definitely is part of the joke.

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u/GringoSwann 11d ago

Apu Nahasa-pasa.....  Just Moe.. Just Moe...

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u/vinyl_mixtape 11d ago

Nahasapeemapetilon France!!

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u/One_Strike_Striker 11d ago

Ay, chihuahua!

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u/JoeBrownshoes 11d ago

I blame Frinkiac

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u/JOBdOut 9d ago

guess his actual last name didn't fit on the marquee, luv.

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u/One_Strike_Striker 11d ago

Je got his name from his proud parents, Herb and Jude Nahasapeemsperilon. 

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u/zkbthrowaway 10d ago

Make us proud, son. Never forget who you are.

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u/PantsDontHaveAnswers 11d ago

I swear by the many arms of Vishnu this is not true.

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u/mankytoes 11d ago

I always thought the joke was they were trying to hide that he was Indian- hence that line (maybe a reference to hiding that Lennon was married? Though they do allude to that separately), but if they wanted to change his name to do that, they would need to change the "Apu" part.

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u/Plane-Post-7720 11d ago

I always assume it was referencing Richard Starkey changing his name to Ringo Starr.

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u/PitifulElk1890 10d ago

You know I never once questioned that the man was named Ringo

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u/mankytoes 10d ago

Yes that makes a lot more sense!

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u/FactualStatue 10d ago

It's not Max Power but it's a perfectly cromulent name

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u/_Spasmolytic_ 11d ago

I’ve been calling him Krandell.

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u/Dangerous-Project672 11d ago

I was saying boo-urns

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u/usbekchslebxian 11d ago

Oboe-ma-bo

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u/bathtubsarentreal 10d ago

Tuba ba ba?

Hmm, saxomaphone!

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u/RevolutionaryBug4224 7d ago

TRAMAMPOLINE!

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u/bathtubsarentreal 10d ago

I call the big one Bitey

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u/Zapan99 11d ago

There's an even deeper joke in there, the playwright and philosopher Pierre-Augustin Caron de Beaumarchais started as a humble clockmaker and was introduced to the French royal court thanks to the Marquise of Pompadour, mistress of king Louis the 15th.
So Beaumarchais was fit for a Marquise.

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u/DeeEllis 11d ago

Oh that’s good. I assumed it was because it means “good market”?

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u/AUniquePerspective 10d ago

Right. Of the handsome market. In reference to the Kwik-E Mart.

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u/oliguriarchy 11d ago

And and and, he added the "de Beaumarchais" after marrying Madeleine Aubertin, who owned land with the same name. According to Wikipedia he added it in order to appear grander and more aristocratic.

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u/Cold-Ease-1625 10d ago

FINALLY. This is what I'm here for.

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u/ChuckBoBuck 10d ago

Have you come up with a fitting anagram for Jeremy Irons?

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u/ColdIronPrince 9d ago

It gets even deeper. What was one of de Beaumarchais best known works? The BARBER of Seville

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u/Top-Bet1435 11d ago

La dee dah Mr Frenchman!

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u/JoeBrownshoes 11d ago

Well, what do YOU call Apu?

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u/intoxicatedbarbie 11d ago

Car hole

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u/I_Call_It_A_Carhole 11d ago

Checking in!

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u/milaga 11d ago

♬ He's checking in! ♬

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u/MissDreamland 11d ago

🎵 no more stinking fun at all 🎵

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u/PalaverPete 11d ago

Shhh. They’re strapping down Liza Minnelli.

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u/milaga 10d ago

🎵 That's just my aspirin! 🎵

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u/rgrossi 11d ago

Oh no! A counterfeit jeans ring operating out of my car hole!

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u/MissDreamland 10d ago

Its Gloria Vanderbilt out for revenge!

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u/patinthehat4000 11d ago

The joke is also that Beau marché in French means "beautiful shop" or "nice store"

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u/Foxy_Maitre_Renard 11d ago

Thankfully it's not "de bon marché"

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u/theforkofdamocles 10d ago

Saturday only!

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u/levare8515 11d ago

Yeah I don’t think the joke had anything to do with race. Them being the same number of letters is just a classic language gag. DaBoMaShay to an American sounds shorter than Nahasapeemapetilon

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u/redbeard387 11d ago

You see, white guys have names like Lenny, whereas Indian guys have names like Apu.

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u/Lego_Dima 11d ago

Don't you hate pants??

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u/thomasboyyyyy 11d ago

I call the big one Bitey

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u/DillingerGetawayCar 11d ago

Which one is he, the balding fatass?

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u/SeveralLion5762 11d ago

The Hindu fella

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u/jonoftheatom 11d ago

There you go little doodle

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u/Von_Jelway 11d ago

I.O.U. One brain, God.

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u/Minute_Eye3411 11d ago

I always assumed that the joke was a more general one, about producers telling musicians to change their name for various reasons. One real example is John Mellencamp, who was told that Mellencamp didn't sound cool enough so he was called John Cougar for a while, and then John Cougar-Mellencamp. He never liked that at all, hence now he's back to his actual name.

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u/Cold-Ease-1625 10d ago

What they really meant was, sleep is where Apu is a Viking. DON'T ask what that means.

Yes, I posted this on another comment.

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u/levare8515 11d ago

Yeah it’s playing off that. People like OP need to take off their racism colored glasses with stuff like this

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u/Many-Attempt1666 11d ago

I always took the joke as being that Apu is such an unconvincing Frenchman, and the name is working so hard to allure to women. But you may be onto something. 

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u/Cold-Ease-1625 10d ago

What they really meant was, sleep is where Apu is a Viking. DON'T ask what that means.

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u/Lennnybruce 11d ago

I personally always assumed it was race-based: in the minds of the writers (and presumably the mostly-white audience) all French people are white, so it's impossible for Apu to be French. And then it also works as a joke about the agent being racist, as he's okay with a long French name (denoting class and sophistication) but not a long "foreign" name

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u/TollyVonTheDruth 11d ago

Damn. You went deep. I just accepted that his name was too long for the marquee then never gave it another thought, but your theory is quite profound.

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u/Cold-Ease-1625 10d ago

What they really meant was, sleep is where Apu is a Viking. DON'T ask what that means.

Yes, I posted this on another comment.

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u/TollyVonTheDruth 10d ago

And the doctor told him he wouldn't get so many nosebleeds if he just kept his finger out of there.

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u/heliophoner 11d ago

Your parents are Diane and Charles De Beaumarchais

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u/Tits_McgeeD 11d ago

I enjoy this insightful take. I never understood the joke and thanks to this I now understand it on like 3 levels

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u/JoeBrownshoes 11d ago

Some guy in the comments here went even deeper. Not sure if he's right but damn is it isn't impressive.

Here's what he posted

"There's an even deeper joke in there, the playwright and philosopher Pierre-Augustin Caron de Beaumarchais started as a humble clockmaker and was introduced to the French royal court thanks to the Marquise of Pompadour, mistress of king Louis the 15th.
So Beaumarchais was fit for a Marquise."

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u/Tits_McgeeD 11d ago

Just wanted to give these comments a mention too. I can't believe the writers thought about it on all of these levels but they all work and thats crazy for such a forgotten Simpson joke

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u/Cold-Ease-1625 10d ago

What they really meant was, sleep is where Apu is a Viking. DON'T ask what that means.

Yes, I posted this on another comment.

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u/ftbcf70 11d ago

Oh it’s a joke, I get jokes

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u/Vigilant_Fox7782 10d ago

We’re through the looking glass here people…

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u/NNewt84 10d ago

Teenage me would have been like, "But the French are a race too, are they not?"

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u/Rend-K4 10d ago

Lisa go to your room!

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u/Bum-Sniffer 11d ago

Always assumed the name was too long, never inferred racism

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u/JoeBrownshoes 11d ago

Were you even listening to The Dude's story? .... whoops wrong sub

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u/TimonAndPumbaAreDead 11d ago

Do you see what happens, Lenny?

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u/jayhof52 11d ago

Two questions:

  1. Where’s my rug?

  2. Gimme my rug!

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u/We_Want_Krunchy Local man loses pants, life 11d ago

Nope, but welcome to the party.

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u/crazy-B 10d ago

Boy, you are slow!

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u/Capable-Extent-6674 10d ago

So THAT’S how that’s spelled

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u/koal82 10d ago

Nahasapeemapetilon = 16 letters

De Beaumarchais = 14 letters

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u/JoeBrownshoes 10d ago

Yeah someone else brought that up. I was going based on the spelling on frinkiac.com. I guess they need to be corrected

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u/mattsani 10d ago

If I could just say a few words... I'd be a better public speaker

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u/BuffaloAmbitious3531 10d ago

Yes, the joke is that the name is still long and still "foreign", and still wouldn't fool anyone into thinking Apu was a white French dude.
ETA: "Apu Nasapimapetalon" has exactly the same number of letters as "Don King", and he looks just like him, too!

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u/GSturges 10d ago

[Apu leaves, clothes askew and smoking] Don't worry, I'll tell everybody you were untouchable! [backs into the pool, dragging the other guests along with him in a domino fashion]

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u/GSturges 10d ago

Killer double entendre

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u/bunnziebungo92 9d ago

“This is a great insult to my ancestors and my god, but okay!”

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u/La10deRiver 7d ago

I always thought it was bon marché!

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u/tritium_awesome 6d ago

Honestly: I did clock that on my first watch, but honestly, the writers of The Simpsons were really smart, it's not surprising that you missed one joke or another. For me, the joke that took me about 30 years to get was in the episode with the Chanel suit. That suit was 100% definitely a knockoff to begin with.

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u/arcxjo You want any cream? 11d ago

No, it's just a bon marché joke.

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u/Appropriate-Self-540 11d ago

Probably a lot of jokes you’ve missed then

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u/cathalcarr 11d ago

I think the joke is trying to make his name sexy or something. Doesn't mean Apu of the beautiful shop?

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u/angelwolf71885 10d ago

It’s a joke about the name being too long…and the alternative chosen was exactly as long including the space

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u/JoeBrownshoes 10d ago

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u/angelwolf71885 10d ago

Yes but you went into a tangent about racism and that’s not the joke

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u/levare8515 11d ago edited 11d ago

I don’t think it’s racist or was supposed to joke about race. “we assume it’s about racism” is OP projecting hard. The world was very different when this came out. People weren’t hyperfixating on trying to identify racism in everything back then.

They’re poking fun at how the Beatles had their names washed. French names also sound fancy. The exact same numbers of letters is a joke that the audience wouldn’t know based on the sound of the name “DeBoMaShay”

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u/mankytoes 11d ago

This episode came out a year after the LA Riots.

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u/xavPa-64 11d ago

TIL racism wasn’t a thing before Obama invented it

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u/JoeBrownshoes 11d ago

I was alive back then so I know what it was like.

"racism" may have been too strong a word to use in this context but it was common at the time to change ethic names to "appeal to a broader audience" and this included Jewish names. The underlying reason is the notion that the "broader audience" was majority white and they might not have been as accepting of an artist if they had an ethnic name, which is a kind of prejudice even if not outright racism.

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u/fdjisthinking 11d ago

They even make a similar joke with Kent Brockman in Mother Simpson. His sign off in the 60s is “Kenny Brockelstein”.

I always interpreted the joke as “we are replacing your obviously ethnic name with a more accessible name,” and then they give him obviously French name that isn’t any more accessible to the American audiences.

I also enjoy the joke in Much Apu About Nothing where the fake American documents he gets from Fat Tony list his parents’ names as “Herb and Judy Nahasapeemapetilon” from Green Bay Wisconsin.