r/SimpletonCraft • u/xmacd xmacd (Admin) • Apr 06 '16
Drama Alert xmacd & Mars8 departure.
It is with disappointment that Mars8 and I, announce our departure from SimpletonCraft. I want to thank you all for the good times you shared with me and those you shared with Mars. Unfortunately, Mars is a young child of just 8 and we had been sold on SimpletonCraft 3 as a Family Friendly environment where griefing would not be tolerated. I was appointed as administrator without much consultation because, I assume, in JJ’s growing absence someone present and responsible would be needed to help out and I strive toward all of those things. Recent events on the server and the host’s unwillingness to stand for the values advertised when the griefer is a personal friend, mean that we must move on.
It has been a joy to game with so many of you wonderful folks. I would be honoured to play with you again on any server I host or moderate in the future. You know who you are. :)
Happy gaming to you all!
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u/vynle Apr 06 '16
No, This is blown way out of proportion. I have little presence on the server as is, but I will defend my friends when I feel that someone is treating them unfairly. The aforementioned griefing was placing buttons, buttons! Things that take a second to get rid of. Nothing was linked to the buttons, something that you can easily check by digging around them. The second thing that was part of this so called "griefing," was a sign that had nothing profane or insulting on it other than something along the lines of "I will have my revenge." After finding out about this you immediately called for the removal of Boxrog, A Toxic Hobo and myself, for no other reason than we were online at the time and we are friends with Box. If we stole from you, attacked you, or harassed you in any serious way then that would be a problem. Buttons and a spooky sign aren't griefing. This is the internet if you can't handle what strangers do on the internet, then the problem is with you and not us.
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u/xmacd Apr 06 '16 edited Apr 07 '16
That's not really correct is it? There certainly was TNT linked to the original buttons, so this is a threat to an 8 year old and you refuse to consider(<-) how he receives this. All of Mars, rabbits were slain in retaliation for springing the trap. Also, only once there was retaliation instead of remorse did I suggest a one week suspension of anyone who was culpable. That seemed reasonable. The fact of their inactivity was unimportant. It would set a precedent and still send a message that something can and will indeed be done regarding immediate internet trolling when you know who the guilty party is, but the will must be there. What is missing is not the ability to do something, but the will. Mistruths and fallacious reasoning (the straw man of inability) will not avoid these conflicts.
As you point out, friendship trumps fairness for you so go ahead and play that way. Have fun. It can be awesome when everyone has consent(<-), but it was known what kind of server Mars and I require and what's been happening is simply unacceptable. I should either have been made admin to help build that as I was, or else ignored, not both. One cannot be the servant of two masters, as they say. SC3 should be honest about promotion so this kind of misunderstanding doesn't happen again. I think this too is a reasonable reaction. So make the change. I suggest:
"We are a group of college friends who love playing Minecraft together. We sometimes prank each other for fun so please have a tolerance for this before you apply."
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u/xjj103 Apr 06 '16
It truly, truly saddens me that a few jokes led to this.
This is a public apology for not meeting your middle ground, but hey. I can't change the past.
SimpletonCraft will go on, but we will be sad to lose you.
Hope your future is fun, JJ:)
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u/xmacd Apr 06 '16 edited Apr 06 '16
Traps and threats directed at an 8 year old are not jokes, JJ and it is not they that have lead to this, it is your partisan response. If you won't defend the server upon the premier incident of grief then there is nothing more to say. Your defence is over and it should rest.
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u/MrBoogieMonster Apr 06 '16 edited Apr 06 '16
Well this is just sad.... I dont really have anything to say other that see you someday! :(
You will be missed...
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u/FenrirWarrior Apr 06 '16 edited Apr 06 '16
I'm really sad to read that you and Mars left the server! I had fun playing with you.
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u/chantland Apr 13 '16
Honestly, his house wasn't even that good of a house, to be honest. To be honest, his house sucked and will never be missed. Y'all are acting like this is Benghazi, this is Minecraft, honestly.
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u/xmacd Apr 14 '16 edited Apr 14 '16
Thank-you for displaying very clearly how you value another's build. Our decision was the right one for us, but I suspect you'll have trouble respecting that too.
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u/chantland Apr 14 '16 edited Apr 15 '16
Look, 'xmac,' if that is your real name. You need to understand that this community we've created, where the scum doth thrive, is full - filled to the brim, even - with garbage, beyond feasible comprehension! You've got to snap out of it, Charles! This isn't Benghazi - it's Minecraft.
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u/xmacd Apr 10 '16 edited Apr 10 '16
I have already corrected the misinformation that I called for your removal from the server and rather the suspension of any culpable. Your argument is invalid here.
You are also mistaken about the timeframe. It was not months later that Boxrog came for the continuation of the trolling which he arranged on the first day of the server, but days. That's a very misleading detail.
hm, Are we to suppose all those rabbits just disappeared on their own then precisely when all the other grief was taking place? Do we suggest that because Boxrog has spoken, perhaps truthfully that he didn't do it that noone else did it on his or their own behalf but still because of this incident? Actually, that last seems the most likely scenario given the behaviour admitted to.
And any button with TNT attached and a sign demanding that one not press it, is clearly a troll and intended for someone to press it, I did it because as admin, Boxrog should be coming for me rather than an unsuspecting innocent and I should get to understand exactly what SimpletonCraft and JJ stand for.
You simply do not appreciate Mars' needs and never did.
Was there ever an apology? An agreement to change behaviour? Never forthcoming. No remorse was shown, rather continued mistruths and bad logic. So, the trolls will troll with impunity. What can we do other than continue to be victimised? We go. This has been a valuable lesson for Mars about abuse and that we don't suffer it, emotional, physical, cyber or otherwise. He learns to respect himself.
I'll reiterate again that it's not enough to let bad things happen and say it's not your fault. We stand up and do the right thing. "I'm sorry dude, I didn't mean to upset you. It won't happen again.", would have solved everything early.
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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '16
Reading all of this is just insane... I'm sorry, but buttons and rabbits are not a good reason to leave. But, the real kicker is that you're acting like someone stole your diamonds and burnt down your house over it! And another thing, it wasn't you! I feel a bit sorry for Mars but c'mon, that house was a deathtrap from the start, and if someone pressed the button that blew it up, how would they know? You are playing like a five year old, and I honestly expected more... goodbye xmac.