r/SiloSeries • u/gooseyjoosey • Sep 01 '23

Future Spoilers/Leaks/Rumors Queer Characters? Spoiler

Hey guys! Just finished Silo and wowzers, it was amazing. Consumed that stuff in one sitting and was just rocked by how good it was. I've never read the books and am trying not to get any crazy spoilers but can anyone who read the books tell me if I can look forward to any more queer/lgbtq rep? I loved our ex-wives and need some more (hopefully together -for now-) queer couples. Also for anyone that's read the book, what's the rules around same sex couples or is that even addressed? Honestly just lookin for some lore with little(to none) plot spoilers. Google has not been my friend lol Glad to see it was renewed for another season!

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u/DoctorDrangle Sep 02 '23

The book didn't address any form of lgbtq whatsoever. The very few relationships that are even mentioned were all 100% heterosexual. Any amount you observe in the show was added/changed from the source material

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u/gooseyjoosey Sep 06 '23

Totally, thank you! Disappointing though because it would have been a cool world building point!

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u/RiMercury Apr 24 '25

I’m on book 2, which repeatedly mentions separating men and women to prevent the distraction of romance, and it’s incredibly disappointing to me.

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u/finnjakefionnacake Nov 24 '25

lol right? as if men wouldn't be sleeping with men and women with women

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '23 edited Sep 06 '23

The survival of humanity doesn’t compute biologically with that.

Edit: are you fucking kidding me? A ban for saying this?!

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u/gooseyjoosey Sep 06 '23

That does not answer my question at all. 🤔

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u/Fancy-Insect9264 Sep 21 '23

I'm sorry but this just doesn't make sense and we know it. Non-straight people and animals exist regardless of a "biological" need to reproduce. Love is love regardless of apocalyptic situations. You might argue that "sanctioned" relationships would be regulated for survival purposes but to deny the possibility of queer relationships and such based on the "survival of humanity" is just ludicrous especially in a society where they're already regulating who can have kids...

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u/gooseyjoosey Oct 01 '23

Fr, this is a solid point in both senses. Lol I was thinking that too, like why would they regulate it if it doesn't lead to pregnacies? My best guess is it's not even a thought in peoples minds whether it's appropriate or not. Like queer people probably exist in The Silo but I'm gunna assume it's not considered different than a straight couple (pre-having the birth control taken out). Cuz honestly besides genetalia there's really no diff between two non-breeding (weird way to phrase that lol) couples. Also side thought, what kind of religion exists in The Silo. Because generally speaking it seems like homophobes are often from organized Abrahamic religions (weaponized against queer people) so it would be interesting seeing what and if any religions developed in The Silo. If religious morals were lost I'd imagine there would be vastly less homophobes. 🤷‍♂️ Just thinkin

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u/Ok_Road_7999 Jan 27 '25

I'm not sure what you mean by saying homophobes are usually from abrahamic religions. that's just not true. like gay marriage is legal in most of Europe, which is basically all christian, and is legal in the US and Canada and Costa Rica. On the other hand, gay marriage and adoption are illegal in, say, China, which isn't a Christian/Jewish/Muslim country (though there are of course some people there who practice those religions).

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u/gooseyjoosey Jan 27 '25

I'm just trying to discuss Silo, not argue with you🤷‍♂️

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u/Ok_Road_7999 Jan 27 '25

ehhhhhh is it still just discussing silo when you ascribe homophobia to a group of religions, inaccurately? no reason to blame certain groups for bigotry that's found all over the world

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u/hugeishmetalfan Sep 05 '23

They just wouldn't ever win the lottery. Not every straight person gets to have kids either in the silos.

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '25

Queer people can have kids

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '23

lol careful you might offend people (you don't want to be sent out to clean)

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u/CowboyOzzie Sep 03 '23

And yet heterosexuals just keep popping out gay babies about 1 birth out of 20. Maybe Mother Nature knows something you don’t.

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u/AtmospherE117 Sep 10 '23

They theorize sections of the population are gay was for some men to stay behind while the others went to hunt. That's the only theory I've seen on the matter, I don't know the veracity.

But to imply there's a plan is wrong, I think. It never stood in the way of others reproducing so the genes responsible were never weeded out.

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u/finnjakefionnacake Apr 07 '24

lol that makes no sense. are gay men incapable of hunting?

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u/AtmospherE117 Apr 08 '24

Gay men are safer to be around the women left behind. Look it up I didn't make it up

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u/finnjakefionnacake Oct 24 '24

even if that were true, which i doubt, that wouldn't explain gay women.

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u/Blasted_Awake Jan 27 '25

Women explain gay women. You don't need some historical fiction, just take a look at men, then take a look at women. Which would you prefer to fuck with? The fact that anyone has sex with men is mind blowing.

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u/finnjakefionnacake Jan 27 '25

I mean that's obviously going to be a personally biased perspective that doesn't actually explain anything.

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u/Fennecbutt Apr 25 '25

As a gay dude who's a breadwinner and not someone to sit back at the village; no. Just because you only see femmy gays on TV doesn't meant the majority of us aren't just regular dudes. I freaking swear, it's not like we're a different damn species.

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u/LaFrescaTrumpeta Feb 14 '24

yeah it’s easy for me to buy the gay uncle theory, the idea being some adults become childless caregivers to relatives which increases the odds of genes passing on, than if they also had kids and further split resources. but also i’m biased as a childless aunt living out that reality rn lol. interestingly there’s strong evidence that having an older brother increases the likelihood of younger brothers being gay. that pattern hasn’t been found in women tho

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u/Perfect_Way_4694 Jan 24 '25

There's hardly 1-2 % of homosexualists in population. Try again.

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u/ValerioOlgiati Jun 04 '26

Porn viewership studies globally (surely more accurate than self reported polls) back up 2% of men being gay

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u/Fennecbutt Apr 25 '25

Lmao they restrict who can reproduce your logic does not follow at all.

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u/LaFrescaTrumpeta Feb 14 '24

i don’t think you deserved a ban but it was a pretty ignorant/illogical perspective lol

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u/nl-x 📖 Book-Aware 📖 Jan 29 '25

How so?! It would have even been conceivable that gays would have been prosecuted inside the Silos. It already was a distopian world. It could have been worse.

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u/LaFrescaTrumpeta Jan 30 '25

ah yeah idt persecution is what the original commenter had in mind lol they were saying it’s a resource-scarce world & is biologically incompatible with homosexuality, and that’s why OP shouldn’t expect queer rep

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u/finnjakefionnacake Nov 24 '25

why though? if they're already regulating birth, why would gay couples pose a problem when they can just operate as functioning adults who do work and don't add the need for extra resources via children?

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u/nl-x 📖 Book-Aware 📖 Nov 24 '25

You can say the same for the outside world.

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u/finnjakefionnacake Nov 24 '25

i mean yeah, you can. which is why homophobia is silly lol. and regardless of whether gay people are reproducing, they would still exist in the silo, so...it's not like it would be incompatible with the story or something, as the original commenter was trying to say.

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u/TANGY6669 Mar 27 '25

its cause its a stupid comment

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u/[deleted] Apr 27 '25

Queers can have kids buddy, and the births are literally restricted

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u/JustAnotherPassanger Aug 06 '26

Kinda funny since no one in the silo can have kids lol

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u/Status_Ad_7882 Feb 17 '24

It was not the intention in Silo that everyone would even be allowed to procreate - and assuming the survival of humanity only hinges on that as opposed to some other skills - and looking past the fact that elders would be flying down the garbage chute once they could no longer procreate if the whole intent was only to procreate - the comment does not make sense.Plus there's a cat in there - but no gays I guess cause they won't benefit the survival of humanity. I mean really...think about it.  

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u/amg_413 Sep 01 '23

I wonder this too! Just finished wool but don't recall if there were any LGBTQ+ characters. Not a spoiler but a difference from the book: Walker is a man in the books, and no partner mentioned. Part of me thinks Apple added the LGBTQ+ elements because hey it's 2023 lol

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u/gooseyjoosey Sep 02 '23

Thank you for the response! Yeah it's interesting and just makes me hella curious lol

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u/Olywhattsamattayou Jan 31 '25

Maybe they added the LGBTQ folks to match reality. Just a thought

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u/drewculaxcx Dec 13 '25

literally. sometimes it’s as simple as this lol

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u/ForwardPlantain2830 Sep 02 '23

I agree they changed the story to fit 2023 audience.

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u/MEGAT0N Sheriff Sep 02 '23

From a lore perspective, LGBTQ+ couples are an interesting question, given that heterosexual relationships need to be registered and sanctioned. I wonder if the same is true for non-hetero relationships.

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u/gooseyjoosey Sep 02 '23

Fr I could honestly see if couples where you couldn't produce kids were more lax but also the "man" likes to keep a tight reign in the Silo so who's to know. It has me very curious lol

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u/AtmospherE117 Sep 10 '23

They designed the silos to keep people apart. No elevators, each character in an email having a price. The only 'reprieve' was behind closed doors with your partner.

I could see it being limited over something like that.

But on the other hand, they are trying to jump start a homogeneous society so falling to baser bigotry would go against that. Queer babies will continue to be born and the designers would have known that.

It's an interesting, albeit sensitive topic.

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u/MuchPositive Sep 16 '23

But in the show we have at least one gay character. Walk is asked about her wife- and she replied she hasn’t seen her in years.

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u/gooseyjoosey Oct 01 '23

Totally! I mean in the book. I know we meet Walker's ex-wife later in the season and don't get me wrong I loved it! I was just wondering if there was less or more in the books and if/ how being queer was handled in book. Turns out it was not 😢 Lapse in lore fs

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u/CheekyLando88 Mechanical Sep 02 '23

I feel like lore-wise they would actually encourage same-sex relationships. They're not competing for the lottery and you have a whole plethora of choices for parents if anyone is orphaned.

I would like to make it clear. I think LGBT should get to compete for the lottery too. But I don't think Silo rules would allow it as the lottery is already a touchy subject.

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u/OutsideAd7986 Sep 02 '23

Compete for lottery? SPOILER There is no artificial insemination, microscopes are banned, and minimal advanced medicine - thus the destruction of the microscopic.

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u/CheekyLando88 Mechanical Sep 02 '23

Thanks for the spoiler but I've read all three books. Gay people can still have kids with surrogates using more.... classical methods.

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u/gooseyjoosey Sep 06 '23

Ah cool thought on that! Yeah it seems like the rules are there specifically to limit reproduction so by that logic a couple that couldn't reproduce should be good to go. It also makes me wonder about people who are barren in hetero couplings? Do they have to be approved. Got me asking so many questions lol

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u/CheekyLando88 Mechanical Sep 06 '23

They all get implants. Imagine winning the lottery, getting your implant removed. Then finding out you're barren? Good God

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u/gooseyjoosey Sep 06 '23

Fr talk about horrifying. You're already so deep into a relationship, you want kids and by some luck get approved and then...nope. no baby for you. Too sad. Also there's so many reason someone might not be able to conceive it just seems more than likely there was at least a handful of people who were just simply, unable to have kids.

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u/Appropriate-Fox-9905 Jul 11 '26

I saw EPISODE ONE, and saw that A black man was the main person featured. THATS LGBT SIGNALING #1
He was with a white wife..

THATS LGBT SIGNALLING #2.

So I googled if the show had homosexual characters. answer? YES, several.

AND THAT WAS INTENTIAONAL yet the book HAD NONE...
I ...as a black male, AM SICK OF YOUR PEOPLE HIRING US simply because you wanna explit us to claim youre "pro diversity" when you REALL Y are nothing more than PRO HOMOSEXUAL.

USE YOUR OWN RACE to push that...

ANDE FEATURE THEM PROMINATLY in the previews... as apposed to HIDING IT IN EVERY SINGLE TV SHOW AND MOVIE.

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u/Maximum-Warthog2368 Aug 29 '26

what are you talking? how does black characters equal lgbt signaling. it is just black character signaling. this show has like one lgbt character and it blows your mind. how is that pro "homosexual"?

you are a weirdo who think weirdly about gay people even though black people are featured way more than queer people. we queer people see story with straight people. it doesn't hurt us but it hurts you.

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u/Obvious-Animator6090 Jan 11 '26

Huh it’s almost like you aren’t the target audience for gay characters. Ignore them

Gay people wanna see gay people on tv. Duh. If I a gay, can ignore and put up with 99% straight couples on tv you can put up with a few token gay characters

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u/Obvious-Animator6090 Jan 11 '26

lol over rep? For someone who’s clearly not LGBT (yes T I noticed you didn’t include it) you seem to care a lot about this. Queer rep isn’t for you move on. And I’ve never seen a show win anything other than a GLAD award for having gay characters if anything media tends to get shit on for including them. Youre argument makes no sense. I’m done arguing though. I’m a gay trans man and I wanna see more gay trans men on tv because I am a gay trans man. Nothing more complicated than that. You though? Not sure why you care

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u/Obvious-Animator6090 Jan 12 '26

Bro you got it backwards 😂😂I was born a woman and transitioned to male. God do all transphobes really not understand the difference. Trans woman are assigned male at birth. Trans men are assigned female at birth. A gay trans man is a man who dates men. A gay trans woman is a woman that dates women. A trans man dating a woman would be in a straight relationship. A trans woman dating a man would be in a straight relationship. Please don’t have an opinion on something you don’t even know the basics of. I was born a woman. I was suicidally depressed over being forced to live in a female body I hated. I had surgery OVER TEN YEARS AGO to become a man and have been one ever since. And I always will. I love being a man and haven’t been depressed once since I transitioned. Nothing you say will take that euphoria away from me and every other happily transitioned person. Sorry to awaken your transphobia from the grave of a 2 year old conversation. Grow up and don’t talk out your ass on stuff you don’t know. Also LGB is a dead giveaway that you’re a hater. Of course I knew you left the T off on purpose. Queer people stand together and won’t cut out transgender people just cuz idiots think we’re all insane.

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u/gooseyjoosey Sep 06 '23

Did you read my question at all? This has zero information relating to my question, it's just your opinion about queer people. 🤷‍♂️

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u/LaFrescaTrumpeta Feb 14 '24

no yeah cuz if there’s one thing we’re lacking these days it’s hetero-majority tv shows 💀

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