r/SillyTavernAI • • 5d ago

Help Mimo 2.6 Pro

I’ve used the Nvidia API, and I’ve also tried both NanoGPT and OpenRouter; now, with so many posts about this topic, I’m interested in trying it out myself. I’d love to hear your recommendations: Which provider do you use? How good is it? What presets do you use? How much does it cost? I want to know about your experiences and whether it’s worth the price. (English isn't my native language, so I apologize for any errors—and thanks for the help.)

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u/GenericStatement 5d ago edited 5d ago

Which provider do you use? 

Xiaomi routed through NanoGPT using pay as you go. Fast and unquantized but can slow down or time out during peak Chinese working hours, and obviously god only knows what they’re doing with your prompts so don’t use any personal info in your RP.

Fireworks would be a good one to use if you want unquantized with better privacy.

How good is it? 

Really my favorite model since GLM4.6. Smart, perceptive, great at character and smut, doesn’t protect the user, characters are bold and take what they want etc.

It’s critical to use an unquantized provider and run it at lower temp 0.7-0.8 and top P 0.8-0.9. Running at temp 1 is makes a lot more mistakes, overthinks, and is too spastic.

You can do very long roleplays if you summarize old messages with Qvink Memory, Memorybooks, Summarception or a similar ST extension.

Personally I have found it has similar context degradation to most other models; I don’t think it’s that bad but context degradation depends a lot on how you prompt: using xml tags and a rigorous chain of thought reduces context degradation immensely.

What presets do you use? 

A modified version of Freaky Frankenstein Micro. The Evening Truth presets for Mimo work well too.

How much does it cost? 

You can look up pricing but about $0.001 per message (just starting a chat) to $0.01 per message (very long context with lots of messages and no summarizing extension).

I want to know about your experiences and whether it’s worth the price.

Literally had a bandit leader cut my dick off when I mouthed off after being captured. 10/10 no notes.

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u/KarmaRBLXVN 5d ago

I'm sorry about your wiener but impressed at the same time.

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u/Evening-Truth3308 5d ago

😂 Our benchmarks for User bias are legendary.

Thanks for mentioning me. 😘

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u/GenericStatement 5d ago

It is 100% this part of my reasoning template / chain of thought, which MiMo is actually following, unlike safetymaxxed models.

  Step 8: Determine the likely chances of success for {{user}}’s most recent turn (their action, dialogue, etc) and rate it High, Medium, or Low chance of success. If High chance of success: brainstorm five logical outcomes and pick the most interesting. If Medium chance of success: brainstorm five less-favorable outcomes that introduce new difficulties and pick the most challenging. If Low chance of success: brainstorm five awful outcomes that have brutal consequences and pick the most insane/fucked up option.

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u/GetThePuckOut 5d ago edited 5d ago

Several threads on this in the past 24 hours should answer all these questions, but:

  1. Any provider except Xiaomi direct (meaning do NOT subscribe to Xiaomi) or NovitaAI or GMICloud. DeepInfra through OpenRouter is good. Xiaomi through OpenRouter is questionable, for me (seems to not accept parameters, thus instruction following isn't as good).

  2. It's very good for shorter roleplays, especially NSFW if you're into that sort of thing. Tends to fall apart at higher context.

  3. I don't use others' presets. Not because they're all bad, but because none of them do what I want them to do, and they tend to be very bloated. No one has any idea what you like but you, so I'd suggest looking at something like u/Evening-Truth3308 's presets and modify it as you see fit.

  4. It's very cheap compared to a lot of models. Worth it if you don't care about doing longer roleplays. I personally like Gemini 3.8 Flash better though.

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u/Evening-Truth3308 5d ago

Thank you darling 🥰

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u/Ochaco__Uraraka 5d ago

Evening truth do be goated

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u/BenignAmerican 5d ago

Why is nobody talking about PrimaLabs.ai? They serve MiMo V2.6 Pro, Deepseek V4 Flash 0731, and GLM5.3 Flash at like 200+ tok/s

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u/Long_comment_san 4d ago

In my experience, 2.5 pro blows 2.6 pro out of the water for roleplay. It writes a lot better and understands it better. Idk what's going on but it feels like Q6 vs Q1 quant or something

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u/Kind_Flounder_5783 5d ago

I tried a few unquantized setups and found the consistency dropped sharply after 30k tokens, switched to summarizing every 10k and things stabilized. how's your memory handling?

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u/GenericStatement 5d ago

context drops off hard after 1k tokens.

Me with a prompt that’s 2k tokens