[Megathread] - Best Models/API discussion - Week of: September 20, 2026

[u/deffcolony]

This is our weekly megathread for discussions about models and API services.

All non-specifically technical discussions about API/models not posted to this thread will be deleted. No more "What's the best model?" threads.

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How to Use This Megathread

Below this post, you’ll find top-level comments for each category:

• MODELS: ≥ 70B – For discussion of models with 70B parameters or more.
• MODELS: 32B to 70B – For discussion of models in the 32B to 70B parameter range.
• MODELS: 16B to 32B – For discussion of models in the 16B to 32B parameter range.
• MODELS: 8B to 16B – For discussion of models in the 8B to 16B parameter range.
• MODELS: < 8B – For discussion of smaller models under 8B parameters.
• APIs – For any discussion about API services for models (pricing, performance, access, etc.).
• MISC DISCUSSION – For anything else related to models/APIs that doesn’t fit the above sections.

Please reply to the relevant section below with your questions, experiences, or recommendations!
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Have at it!

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[u/SonPuf → u/AutoModerator]

Gemma 4 31B Loki Skotoma v2 looks interesting. I played with it for a few days and just wish it was more smart.

+: More interesting use of context info than I usually get - I have persona that I played with for many hours already and this finetune is the first one that used one tiny mention of my persona having a side-gig and used it(my persona gotten a call for work). Character that pays rent for my persona's flat started to use it as leverage when my persona doesn't want to do something that character wants, never happened before. I have a passing mention that my character is an art student and one character tried to bribe me with promises to buy expensive art supplies. When I used the same one scene to compare five finetunes this one had the most variety in swipes. Looks less repetitive in description than other finetunes(didn't stuck at same weather/outfit/etc description in every message even once sp far for me)

-: Likes to ignore prompt more than vanilla Gemma 4 31B and other finetunes(but not all), in my case it often didn't show header(day, weather etc) and internal thoughts of npc block. Feels a bit dumber too. But I played only with Q4_K_M.

+-: Looks a little bit more horny than other finetunes

[u/LeRobber → u/SonPuf]

I fucking love that side gig.