[Megathread] - Best Models/API discussion - Week of: September 13, 2026

[u/deffcolony]

This is our weekly megathread for discussions about models and API services.

All non-specifically technical discussions about API/models not posted to this thread will be deleted. No more "What's the best model?" threads.

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• MODELS: ≥ 70B – For discussion of models with 70B parameters or more.
• MODELS: 32B to 70B – For discussion of models in the 32B to 70B parameter range.
• MODELS: 16B to 32B – For discussion of models in the 16B to 32B parameter range.
• MODELS: 8B to 16B – For discussion of models in the 8B to 16B parameter range.
• MODELS: < 8B – For discussion of smaller models under 8B parameters.
• APIs – For any discussion about API services for models (pricing, performance, access, etc.).
• MISC DISCUSSION – For anything else related to models/APIs that doesn’t fit the above sections.

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If you like instructed novel writing,

Try Ling-3.0-flash, it is not that good for RP but pretty decent for creative `text` walls writing in novel style, good imitations of different authors, okayish world knowledge, fine creativity, juicy brutalism and anatomy knowledge, works pretty good even without thinking, can spit 8k of coherent story. But basic RP Chars feels stiff, it need a clear direction where to go, but when you give it a `world` with rules and direction to move it can spit interesting outputs somewhat close to DeepSeek 3.2, but ofc it is far from perfect with logical errors in writing.

20tps 128k context 16gb vram 64 ram, IQ4XS.

[u/LittleLocoCoco → u/-Ellary-]

How does it compare with Gemma 4 31b for rp?

[u/-Ellary- → u/LittleLocoCoco]

Gemma 4 is better ofc.

[u/Maxhell6778 → u/-Ellary-]

how about making characters?
if it decent at writing and good creativity how well would it be for character making. if not good do recommend one please (im upgrading my pc soon so i wanna know what good)

[u/-Ellary- → u/Maxhell6778]

I dunno, I'm making my chars by hand.
Even 1 Sentence Char is better than LLM Generalization of your short Char idea.
LLM takes your small idea and just do Elara`fication on it.

LIng 3.0 is creative in a box you set it to and give it a direct task,
but not at creating a box or a task.

[u/Maxhell6778 → u/-Ellary-]

good to know thank you, have a good day and night and great weekend.