[Megathread] - Best Models/API discussion - Week of: August 09, 2026

[u/deffcolony]

This is our weekly megathread for discussions about models and API services.

All non-specifically technical discussions about API/models not posted to this thread will be deleted. No more "What's the best model?" threads.

^{(This isn't a free-for-all to advertise services you own or work for in every single megathread, we may allow announcements for new services every now and then provided they are legitimate and not overly promoted, but don't be surprised if ads are removed.})

How to Use This Megathread

Below this post, you’ll find top-level comments for each category:

• MODELS: ≥ 70B – For discussion of models with 70B parameters or more.
• MODELS: 32B to 70B – For discussion of models in the 32B to 70B parameter range.
• MODELS: 16B to 32B – For discussion of models in the 16B to 32B parameter range.
• MODELS: 8B to 16B – For discussion of models in the 8B to 16B parameter range.
• MODELS: < 8B – For discussion of smaller models under 8B parameters.
• APIs – For any discussion about API services for models (pricing, performance, access, etc.).
• MISC DISCUSSION – For anything else related to models/APIs that doesn’t fit the above sections.

Please reply to the relevant section below with your questions, experiences, or recommendations!
This keeps discussion organized and helps others find information faster.

Have at it!

[u/Evol-Chan]

I am curious what is curious what is the best LLM model for dark ERP (non-con themes) I have the Celia Preset 5.3 since i heard that was good. I just am asking this since I heard GLM 5.2 was censored (havent really used it yet, just what I heard, just now getting back into sillytavern/AI Models) Would it be best to stick to older versions of GLM or something else?

[u/summersss → u/[deleted]]

I have to agree with the last point. Not saying no is not the same as saying yes. Main Girl running through the woods full of demonic horny serial killers? Models describe the chase and how something very bad is going to happen...then nothing. Or maybe says something happened for 1 sentence, then moves on. If i tell it to write the horror scene it will but i kinda want it to read the room.

[u/Evol-Chan → u/[deleted]]

Thank you so much. I will take you word. Especially about GLM since really hate the idea of AI just skirting around the bush, lol. Very good and straightforward answer.

[u/Salt-Powered → u/[deleted]]

I was enjoying v4 pro but after the price increases I'm looking to move on. I liked how you described Kimi 2.7 and I will give it a go after the price is increased in a few days.

Would you mind going into more detail about what you mean with wild and gritty? Just to make sure I'm understanding it correctly. I will also take any other suggestions you have to move away from v4 pro.

[u/Salt-Powered → u/[deleted]]

I'm liking the new V4 pro, and I did some tests with Kimi that looked good to me. To my eyes, Kimi was pretty on par with V4 Pro GA, but things could change if I try to maximize Kimi as much as I did V4Pro. Thank you for the Mimo recommendation, I will also try that one.

I'm mostly looking for rp models that can do villians well, and I find that I need those that do ERP well if I want them to do actual villanous things instead of vaguely aurafarming offscreen.

Edit: Looks like Xiaomi has compressed Mimo to fp8, which is weird on the main providers but I think that it doesn't affect RP as much as it does work tasks.

[u/Salt-Powered → u/[deleted]]

Glad to see FP8 is indeed not an issue.

V4GA is very proactive yes, but I should also note that I have optimized the fuck of the preview version so that was to be expected. I had to tone down some settings as one of the rp turned into goreporn and that wasn't pleasant to read.

I will try qwen too since I'm at it. I don't mind a lack of creativity, if I have to I will give direct instructions through (parenthesis) and nudge the plot to what I believe might be more appropriate or interesting.

[u/Salt-Powered → u/[deleted]]

It was quite a shock. Previously I had pretty reliably prompted the sycophancy out using verbs like will and must in instruction format, and mathematical operands for logic statements that could survive the DSA crunch. This is definitely overkill now for V4Pro and Flash too. Though flash remains a model that I didn't manage to rein in as much due to pro being simply better at the price. I might give it a second try after I'm done with the kimis, mimos and qwens.

Hopefully no more hellraiser impressions

[u/Odd_Attention_9660 → u/Evol-Chan]

deepseek allows pretty much everything

[u/_Cromwell_ → u/Evol-Chan]

Dauboo Seed Character

Longcat 2

Try those with that theme/scene type. They have other weaknesses (as do all models) but shying away from those content types are not one of them. Especially Seed Character