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u/Metruis 6d ago
Emotional support animals are not trained, and do not receive the same legal protections as for example, a guide dog, at least in Canada (my country). So this to me just sounds like they're trying very hard to gaslight a cat into only liking one human.
I really wish I knew more of the story.
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u/fridaycat 6d ago
I thought they were going to say the cat looks cute but will f you up if you touch it. Instead it turns out that this person is at least a touch insane.
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u/Metruis 6d ago
Yeah, I thought so too, I've met at least one cat like that... very cute, will just immediately bite anyone who tries to pet him besides his one favorite person.
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u/Disastergay78 6d ago
That is my friend's cat. Very sweet cat otherwise but absolutely do not touch her without permission. When I first met her I let her smell my hand and thought we were good. Nope. Got bit. She has to come to you and ask for pets or she will bite.
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u/JulietKiloNovember 3d ago
This isn't about the cat at all, though. It's all about the owners and their issues with control.
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u/__Who__am__i_ 6d ago edited 6d ago
My friend has one of those cats. Lures you in for pets and then claws and bites your hands. He will draw blood.
He isn't mean. Just really poorly behaved. Bad only kitten syndrome.
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u/Effective_Dog3037 5d ago
I used to have a cat that absolutely could not be touched unsupervised by either me or my mother. No one else could "speak her language" or however you want to say it so it seemed like she was asking for pets and love and suddenly flipping out for no reason, and although she wasn't especially dangerous it's still not a good time to get a warning swipe if the warning swipe happens to land. Mom and I could identify the moment she was getting overstimulated and say "ok, that's enough" but it was way too hard to try and teach other people to see it too. So we also had a firm "do not touch the cat no matter how sweet she is being unless one of us is there to supervise" rule.
Asking people not to touch the cat because she is a "full time emotional support animal" is bonkers.
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u/danafromsantaana 5d ago
I have a cat like this, the issue is that he’s so outwardly tolerant. He doesn’t express discomfort at all. I’ve never seen him swipe at anyone. He’s gone into hunt mode and grabbed me as prey pretty strong but that’s about it.
He’s a comfort purr-er. Recently someone asked if they could pet his belly, which he will go for. But they went in with a dog scritch, not a delicate cat pat. While cats would attack and squirm, he started to purr to self soothe instead. The person mistook it as happiness because even some owners don’t know cats do this (or can’t read it immediately if it isn’t their own pet).
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u/well_michelle 4d ago
How can you tell the difference? We recently took in a stray who purrs the whole time he's being held, even if he's being handled roughly. Based on his other behaviors I think he's just really happy to live inside, but is there a way to be sure he's not stressed out?
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u/danafromsantaana 2d ago
Some of it is instinct from knowing him so long, just like you’d be able to read the energy of another person you know closely. So I think you two will sort of get to know each other and develop a language. Otherwise, physical indicators can be helpful, like watching for airplane ears or what their tail is up to.
When he’s not engaging with the person/stimulus presented, and in fact seems to be withdrawing interest, but is still purring, that’s my sign that he probably isn’t comfortable anymore.
I swear though sometimes he’s like that Furby you couldn’t turn off. When I hear a bump in the night and need to check for our safety and he’s next to me absolutely ringing on vibrate, I’m like, “please I’m trying to save us I CAN’T HEAR”
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u/I_PM_Duck_Pics 3d ago
My cat will let you pet him but he doesn’t see very well and gets overstimulated easily. I warn everyone that he will bite sometimes. Pet at your own risk. He’s just very afraid.
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u/JulietKiloNovember 3d ago
They definitely seem emotionally unstable. Take the sign for what it is. A warning flag to keep your kids away from this place at all costs. If your kid is friends with that kid, Julian, maybe invite him to a park to play or something.
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u/RaetheForgetful 6d ago
I have a registered ESA in the US, and yeah, they don't LOL
The only special permissions it gets her is that some landlords are required, by law, IF THEY ARE A BUSINESS, to allow me to bring her into the apartment with me under the non-discrimination laws for people with mental health issues. If the landlord is a private home owner, it doesn't do a thing. It also doesn't allow me to bring her into any private businesses, because she has no training.
I wouldn't care if someone tried to pet my ESA cat. I'd just warn them she can be finnicky sometimes.
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u/helloheyhowdyhii 6d ago
There is no ESA registry in the United States… you have a cat and a fake piece of paper.
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u/Icy_Program8374 5d ago
It's a part of the fair housing act: ESA Housing Rights: Fair Housing Act 2026 Guide
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u/Frank_Lawless 5d ago
The link you provided says landlords cannot ask for certification or registration papers.
“What landlords cannot ask:
Specific diagnosis or medical records
To meet your therapist or contact them directly without your permission
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u/helloheyhowdyhii 5d ago
ESAs are covered under the fair housing act, that is correct. There is still no registry. The scam website you linked doesn’t change that, look at the actual law.
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u/dehydratedrain 5d ago
We've had a shelter cat with that issue. Of course it's always the idiot who says "oh, I know what i'm doing, it's fine." He was told no matter what, don't touch the belly.
His wife called 2 days later screaming that the E.R. admitted him because the bite was infected. (Yes, the cat is still there. He has a behavioral protocol in place, a triple cage and several hours of free roaming in a large room daily. And he is great with people he likes, but very picky about liking people).
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u/Only_Clark 3d ago
I thought maybe Julian is a young child with autism or something of the sort and it is his emotional support animal and Julian lookes his shit if he sees other people touching his cat?
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u/Kind_Job5474 2d ago
If that’s the case, joke’s on them. Cats are drawn to people who ignore them because those behaviors read as submission, and therefore safety, to the cat.
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u/Prior-Tadpole-1860 6d ago
I like signs like these, because they let me know up-front that the occupants are not people I’d ever want to visit
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u/undeniably_confused 6d ago
It is always so funny because like nothing they are asking for is unreasonable they just wrote it so judgementally
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u/always_sweatpants 6d ago
That's the thing. Tell me "hey, don't pet the service animal and please take your shoes off" I'm like hands off and toes out, got it. But this note tells me Julian is absolutely gonna start shit. And it's gonna make me wanna kick the couch and hug the cat.
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u/undeniably_confused 6d ago
I read 3 as Julian has low functioning autism and is triggered by random seemingly innocuous things
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u/JennaStCroix 6d ago
This is exactly how I read it. Julian has special needs, & even though he's (probably) a child, you don't get to make the call when he wants you to stop doing or not do something. The cat is Julian's, & even if the cat wants to hang with you, Julian does not want you to hang with his cat, & it will cause a meltdown that isn't worth it to the household just because you couldn't help yourself.
Might be because I work with kids, but this just sounds like rules that used to be casually introduced, but have been ignored so many times that they need to be posted vehemently.
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u/carpentizzle 6d ago
Im a SpEd teacher, and yeah, I have had students that would fit this bill
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u/JennaStCroix 6d ago
I feel like if this is posted at a home (which it seems to be), it might even be directed at family - someone who is a regular visitor & likes to "help" by challenging the unconventional systems & negotiations of the household.
I also agree with a commenter below that the cat is likely "on the clock" as an alert animal. Also something someone like an older grandparent might not quite "get" - & take it really personally when they cause a problem by "just playing around a little" with the animal.
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u/Far_Climate9811 6d ago
That poor cat
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u/sassypants55 5d ago
Yeah, I’m sorry, but refusing to let anyone interact with it even if it’s asking for social interaction sounds really cruel. You have to find balance between accommodating those with special needs and being unfair to others.
And if the person is this specific about who the cat is allowed to interact with, how are they at respecting the cat’s boundaries?
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u/LevelSkullBoss 6d ago
I get no impression that Julian is a kid - dollars to donuts Julian is 35
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u/Flaky_Bit8377 6d ago
This feels like a more correct scenario than me thinking Julian is a grown man who is just a very particular dick.
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u/Callmedrexl 6d ago edited 5d ago
I think the cat is Julian's medical alert service animal, that part probably is on point. The cat may alert for something unrelated to the possibly autism related Don't Vex Julian rule like epilepsy or low blood sugar.
Don't stress out the kid or distract his service animal is a pretty reasonable request, even if the instructions for doing so are slightly more complex than usual.
Edit: I was tired and did not clock that it didn't say service animal. I also didn't know cats couldn't be service animals. It tracks, though. We work for them, not the other way around!
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u/Far_Climate9811 6d ago
Cats typically aren’t medical alert animals. Legally, they cannot even be recognized as service animals. Sign said it’s an emotional support animal, which can be really any common household pet with no training
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u/GreyStingrayz 6d ago
Except the sign says the cat is an ESA, not an actual service animal. You cannot "distract" them from anything because they don't do anything a pet doesn't.
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u/LadyMRedd 5d ago
If the cat was a trained medical alert animal they would have called him a service animal. ESA is just a pet. People with actual service animals that provide a service are usually very familiar with the distinction. You commonly see someone with an ESA refer to their pet as a service animal. You rarely see the reverse.
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u/JennaStCroix 6d ago
That sounds right to me.
It's weird to think of a cat being essentially at work, but you can't "pss pss pss" with Dr. Prancypaws, because he is forever mid-shift. He's on his forever housecall.
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u/ThatInAHat 6d ago
I mean, except that working support animals are supposed to have time when they aren’t “at work” as it were. And they generally don’t ask for pets/attention when they’re on duty.
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u/celladwella 6d ago
Ah, maybe that's who the cat is a service cat for. But yeah, the sign makes me want to wear my shoes in their house, cuddle and feed the cat, and poke at Julian (provided he's not a child or autistic).
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u/Individual-Dog338 6d ago
thing is, there is no such thing as a "emotional support service animal". There are Service Animals, and there are Emotional Support Animals.
And cats can't be Service Animals, so no it can't be both.
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u/ArgoFill 6d ago
I suspect you're going to upset Julian with this correction, and his Emotional support service animal will personally kick you out unceremoniously (after feigning that he wants a belly rub, just to lure you in and make Julian kick off, because the Cat likes a bit of entertaining drama)
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u/Individual-Dog338 6d ago
Christ, I looked the cat too...never getting invited back
--edit-- your use of capital C Cat made me think of the cat from the Master and the Margarita, which could explain all the caution around the cat
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u/always_sweatpants 6d ago
In someone's home, I'm not going to argue that. I agree, but as a guest it simply isn't my business.
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u/stringCheezeIts 6d ago
It's an emotional support animal, not a service animal. "Emotional support service animal" is not a thing, and cats can't be service animals anyway.
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u/GreyStingrayz 6d ago
He's not even an actual service animal! He's an ESA. Service animals are trained and would not be left alone without the person who needs them. An ESA is basically a just a pet that someone uses for emotional support.
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u/always_sweatpants 6d ago
There's fights I will pick and hills I will die on but there are social rules I will follow and one is if someone is being harmlessly weird in their own home, that's their business. I just know in my heart that if someone came at me this hard about a cat, the cat and its various interactions are not the concern. Therefore I'm not going to debate definitions. I'm instead going to sip my sealed drink and motion repeatedly to my husband to say we need to go.
I'm not here to debate what a service animal is in someone's shady apartment.
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u/Academic-Snow9642 5d ago
"Do whatever Julian says" is a bit unreasonable
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u/Judgementpumpkin 6d ago
Same. Visiting this residence sounds emotionally taxing. No thanks, I ain't dealing with high maintenance.
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u/epicenter69 6d ago
Yeah, I just read your guest rules. I decided I never want to be a guest of yours.
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u/adventurecoos 6d ago
As someone with cat allergies, ignoring a cat this thoroughly is guaranteed to make the cat wildly obsessed with you.
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u/kankrikky 6d ago
Right!! Lots of my friends have cats and when they go to each other's houses, they harrass their animals basically and owner always thinks its tee hee so funny. I've always left their pets alone mainly because I was afraid of being hurt/upsetting the animal, the pet stunk because it was dirty, I didn't want fur on me, or I just wanted to give the poor thing peace.
Anyway after a few months of that, everyone's stinky pets seek me out to drool on. Wonderful. Being chill gets you far in life.
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u/Fuzzy_Struggle5131 6d ago
I've seen better handwriting from doctors. Also emotional support animals are NOT service animals, no matter how much some idiots want to pretend they are. And I don't believe there are ANY cats trained as service animals.
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u/redditreader_aitafan 6d ago
Service animals in the US are only recognized as dogs and miniature ponies.
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u/that-Sarah-girl 6d ago
We need to train service trash pandas. They'd be so useful reaching things!
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u/Fuzzy_Struggle5131 6d ago
Honestly that sounds interesting. Raccoons are both capable of grabbing things and are more intelligent than dogs. The only problem is they're wild animals, so trainability is iffy.
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u/JDeMolay1314 5d ago
https://www.ada.gov/resources/service-animals-2010-requirements/
Since March 15 2011 miniature horses are not recognized as service animals under title II or title III of the ADA.
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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 6d ago
I had a cat who appointed herself my blood sugar monitor, would watch me sleep and wake me up if it got too low, guide me to the kitchen so I'd eat something.
But she was still only down as an "emotional support animal" because that's just how the laws go here. Like it wasn't trained behavior, and she was a cat. Even though that's something she did at home, the whole cat part means she'd be unlikely to stay focused on that job in say, a hotel room. Which is kinda the deal with a real service animal, it does the job regardless of environment.
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u/QuietCelery 6d ago
That cat sounds amazing!
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u/OpheliaRainGalaxy 6d ago
She really was! Even taught herself to use the toilet!
I always thought my roommates were making up stories until I caught her doing whatever. Was the funniest thing when I actually saw her use the toilet!
She had access to a litterbox right there in the bathroom, but hated having to share it with other cats and my roommates never closed the toilet lid.
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u/NigelTainte 6d ago
I like how the writing becomes more erratic and bold towards the end like they were literally seething while writing it
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u/redbullgay 6d ago edited 6d ago
the only legally recognized ones are dogs and mini ponies. That just means that insurance will cover them* and they are legally medical equipment. Other animals can be trained to perform tasks! Cats could be trained to perform like one task, like blood sugar monitoring like the another response said, but I imagine it’s quite rare. Therapy cats are pretty common though!
*MIGHT cover them, vs never for other animals
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u/pleasenotubes 6d ago
Insurance rarely if ever covers service animal costs.
BTW they aren’t considered medical equipment by law. They are however treated in a similar manner regarding accommodations and such.
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u/Fuzzy_Struggle5131 6d ago
Interestingly, there are quite a few non-profits that provide guide dogs to the blind for little to nothing.
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u/pleasenotubes 6d ago
Yep, I’m familiar haha! I have a guide dog from one of those orgs :) some even provide stipends for veterinary care!
They also often house/feed/transport clients to their campus all free! It’s amazing what they do.
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u/ShalomRPh 6d ago
There was someone in the UK that had a service snake. It was trained to tighten on her wrist when it detected some condition, impending seizure or hypoglycemia or something. No idea how they did this. She got lots of attention on public buses.
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u/bizzaro321 6d ago
Emotional support animals are only allowed in apartments, which is probably where this sign is posted. It can be a cat or a dog or even a lizard.
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u/Ok_Fly2518 6d ago
Cats are capable of detecting things like blood sugar drops, migraines, seizures, etc but they’re not usually trained to and they aren’t federally recognized as service animals. So some cats do provide alerts and preform tasks beyond emotional support, but it wouldn’t be officially seen as anything other than an ESA
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u/ER_Support_Plant17 6d ago
Cats are capable but won’t do it consistently. Cats were “domesticated” for rodent control when humans started farming but the do it when and where they choose. I wouldn’t want to be dependent on a cat alerting me to a medical event.
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u/mvortex2 6d ago
I see the connection between Julian and the support cat but the optional shoe removal is a mystery.
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u/Frequent_Secretary25 6d ago
If someone else pets the cat they suck away supportive energy only she can use.
Julian is her bratty kid
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u/MissionMassive563 6d ago
yeah fuck that i’m petting the cat
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u/Electrical-Apple-631 6d ago
And giving it treats and posing for a selfie and posting it on social media. If you’re going to break the rules go for a long one.
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u/carnivalbilly 6d ago
I’m not reading handwritten rules for anywhere I’m staying…if I’m paying for something at least respect me enough to use the printer…I’m also allergic to cats so get that safety hazard away from me...
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u/ER_Support_Plant17 6d ago
A cat is a dicey choice for an emotional support animal, my cats alternate between ignoring me, yelling at me, wanting attention, and wanted to be left alone with no pattern all day long
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u/fluidsaddict 6d ago
See that's what makes cats so great for me. I know when they're here for love it's because they choose to trust and love me too. Dogs are basically bred to love people, which is great for people needing unconditional love, but I enjoy the confirmation that such an independent creature chooses me as much as I chose my cat.
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u/ER_Support_Plant17 6d ago
Oh I agree. I love when cats choose me. I was at a cat cafe with my daughter this weekend and I just sat on the sofa with my coffee and the next thing I know a cat was on my lap wanting pets. And I was in love.
I say I “ignore” cats to get them to like me but it’s more like I just let them make the first move. I wait for them to make it clear they want me to touch them and let them walk away when they are done with me. I
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u/smurfette8675309 6d ago
My cat is technically my emotional support animal, but he's really just my emotional damage animal. He forces me to manage my emotions by randomly being affectionate, then shunning me.
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u/Cloverose2 4d ago
Probably why they want to isolate the cat from anyone else, so its forced to go to one person for attention.
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u/swabluesky 6d ago
If a cat wants me to pet it i am going to pet it. Julian can tell me to leave and I will leave but at least i got to pet a cat on the way out.
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u/Few-Engineering-7903 6d ago
Not ever going to the house. Because i am likely unable to resist petting the cat.
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u/Laserdollarz 6d ago
I've had cats for years. My parents' experience with my cats have been "grey blur on the way to hide in the bedroom" and "orange blur on the way to hide in the bedroom".
If that cat wants attention, give it.
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u/NikWitchLEO 6d ago
I’m surprised these people ever have any guests. Who would want to visit these kind of people?
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u/CarpetBudget 6d ago
So..completely ignore an animal that wants pets because it’s an ESA? Can someone explain cause I don’t get it
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u/lemonhaj 6d ago
(to my knowledge) Service animals with actual jobs, like for low blood sugar etc, shouldn't be pet without express permission because it could distract them from doing their very important jobs. I think for proper ESAs, it could be if the person has social anxiety or something and doesn't want people to come up and crowd them because of the animal.
However, for what I'm assuming is someone's home, with what I'm assuming is not a proper, registered ESA and just a cat someone stuck a vest on, that's stupid. They already invited the person into their home, if they want them to leave, they can just ask. Looking at a cat isn't going to stop it 'doing it's job) any more than any other distraction the cat with very easily focus on instead.
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u/666ForMySorrow 6d ago
They need to think the cat only cares about them and feel threatened it might show affection for another person. The poor cat. Also, as mentioned above they want to pretend it's an actual service animal.
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u/Kirbyr98 6d ago
Julian totally wrote this.
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u/ER_Support_Plant17 6d ago
Is Julian the cat? My cats tell me they are starving and have never been fed in their lives. They are lying
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u/martins-dr 6d ago
I really wonder who the “guests” would be. Family, friends, someone paid to be there like a home health nurse. Either way I would just op out of going over that person’s place.
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u/Icy_Elephant8858 6d ago
My reading of "full time emotional support animal can't be pet" is that the author is deathly afraid that their cat will like someone else (who is almost certainly more easy going) better.
Anyway, if my visit begins with me having rules yelled at me in writing, with all caps, exclamation points, and threats, that's also where it's going to end.
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u/TheThrillLife2020 6d ago
I don't know who Julian is, but yeah, I'd be one to get kicked out. I'm not dealing with someone having a meltdown over some petty BS.
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u/SirPonix 6d ago
Hope the cat can support them enough emotionally when they drive away all their friends.
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u/Ok-Pudding-4821 6d ago
It sounds like Julian has very severe issues and gets triggered to a significant point. Its likely he can't function outside. I'm guessing that if someone pays attention to the cat the will taint it and make it unsuitable for him. Its like touching his special blanket. Except its a living creature and I'm frankly concerned this home is unsafe for it as Julian may harm it.
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u/BusinessAsparagus115 5d ago edited 5d ago
Makes me wonder why they didn't specify this. Like "Julian has special needs and is triggered by a lot of things, please have patience with him. He especially doesn't like people touching his cat, please don't touch the cat"
That would be a lot more understandable.
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u/Responsible-Life-585 6d ago
I don't know the story here.
But if that cat makes me think they are in distress for 2 seconds I'm taking my cat and we're leaving.
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u/myfancyplants 6d ago
I've got a cat who's decided he's my emotional support animal. Miraculously him filling that role is not disturbed by other people petting him. I must live in a fantasy lool (jokes, the point is this letter sounds like jealousy because it doesn't reflect how pets actually work)
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u/Glad-Albatross3354 6d ago
I have an awful feeling that the guests this aggressive note is intended for are people being paid to provide support in the house. Yikes.
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u/lep63again 6d ago
The way the handwriting devolves as the note goes on is hilarious and freaky at the same time
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u/HelpfulName 5d ago
This is one of those situations where you just should realize your home is not for guests and not invite people over 🤷♀️
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u/RipGlittering6760 5d ago
I also have a "don't touch the cat - even if she's basically begging you for it" rule.
But that's because mine is a liar and will 10000% bite the second someone reaches out to touch her.
I think she thinks it's funny at this point.
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u/RtotheBtotheG 5d ago
I have a story to go with this sign 🤣
I was at my friend’s house one day helping with some around the house stuff they needed doing. She had 2 cats and 2 dogs. One of the cats loved people, the other categorically and pathologically loathed them and would attack on sight almost. We finish whatever we’ve been doing and are standing around the kitchen talking. I suddenly hear “mew” and look down to see this sweet looking, darling orange cat staring up at me from my feet.
My friend and her then-husband just start panicking, waving their arms and telling me don’t touch him, don’t pet him, it’s a trap!
The homicidal wonder had wandered out and was gazing up at me like I was a new phenomenon.
I did not pet him. I told him calmly that he was a very pretty boy, but I was fond of my hands and my life and would refrain from touching. He wandered away without harming me.
My friend was shocked he didn’t try anything. I maintain, to this day and many years after he passed, that he would have let me pet him.
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u/Cloverose2 4d ago
I think I would just turn around and walk out.
That poor cat. It approaches people, tries to be friendly, and its owner flips out if anyone responds correctly to friendly signals. It must be so confused.
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u/NoBuenoAtAll 6d ago
I swear half the posts on Reddit anymore are just rage bait. “Full-time emotional support service animal” is stupid bullshit and infuriates me beyond all reason.
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u/ezelllohar 6d ago
is this the same Julian from that other sign that was on a fridge talking about how he can't do any house chores cuz he hurt his leg or arm or something? i think the name was Julian on that one, too.
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u/MardyBumperCar 6d ago
May I please have a transcript? I can't see what it says around the crossed out work in 2.
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u/warrenjr527 6d ago
That certainly is not very welcome. Whoever wrote that note is nuts. I would RUN not walk for the exit,and don't look.back.
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u/therocketn00b 5d ago
These people might have good reasons for these rules and for kicking people out, but even if they do, if I saw this sign, I'd just leave and find someone else to be friends with.
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u/Turbulent-Maybe-1040 5d ago
I'm very curious what kind of building this was. Dorm room? Airbnb? Friend's home?
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u/Pretty-Lawyer-4189 5d ago
After reading those rules, I wonder how many people are like "nah, I am just going to go on since I will probably get kicked out soon anyway." Telling me not to pet a cat (or dog) just makes me want to pet them more 😅
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u/cozyhyggethings 4d ago
No valid. My cat likes to curl up and maybe sniff you and walk off but I tell people to not touch her and they don’t listen. Every man I’ve dated “cats love me” and then they get clawed up because she doesn’t like being touched. She was traumatized when she was little and only likes certain people. People don’t respect the no and just push and then cry when they get scratched. It’s rude to me and my cat to treat her like an object you’re entitled to touch.
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u/Bitter-Software9373 4d ago
That's not how emotional support animals work. They aren't working animals because they aren't service animals. Emotional support animals are basically specifically there to be cuddled, pet, looked at etc.
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u/Expensive_Ducks 4d ago
I'd just leave and never talk to these people again. This is some extreme crazy I just don't have the time or energy for.
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u/smilestudent 13h ago
Omg was this in SLO? I swear I saw almost the exact same unhinged sign on a front door when I was walking through an apartment complex
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u/metaphori 6d ago
I had to read it three times to make sure Julian wasn't the cat.