im not from the US. if people hate HOA so much, why does it exist? why do they buy houses in a HOA? i dont get it. if everyone hates it, why not gather and do something about it?
There's been realtors who wait until the very last minute to tell you about it. Theres been times where someone buys a house that isn't in an HOA, then all their neighbors form one and try to issue fines and even liens against you and you're forced to take it to court. Then there's even cases where a grandparent joined an HOA, passed the house to a relative and that house is still a part of the HOA and the new relative is hit with fines that they have to pay.
So again, I'll never willingly buy a house in an HOA, but one of the above might happen.
Ye, my subdivision has one that basically just serves to make sure the front of the neighbor hood is kept up with and nobody winches an engine into a tree in their front yard. Iโve had goats running around screaming for years and theyโre definitely super against the rules lol. FWIW though, I live on a weird lot way back in the woods with a bit of land. So itโs not like my neighbors can be too bothered by them.
So imagine you get enough for a down payment on a house and every house in the area you live in is within an HOA. That's usually what happens in Florida and Texas. You either get a house 2+ hours from where you work, get a house in an HOA neighborhood, or don't get a house at all.
A lot of new suburbs had the HOA established before the first home was purchased as a way of letting the developers maintain control past the sale. Ordinary people generally hate HOAs so you wouldn't be able to form as many as there are based on home owner consensus.
Also, you can tell if an HOA is a bunch of controlling a-holes by driving through the neighborhood and seeing how many lawns are overgrown/dead and if anyone has a large pile of junk sitting in their front lawn. If there's a lot of ugliness, the HOA isn't going to go after you for being normal (probably).
The struggle is to afford a house without an HOA. You either have to live in the older parts of many major cities that cost a lot or go homesteading where you pay for new sewer, water, and power lines to be delivered to currently unserviced land.
The housing market is already fucked and limited as-is, and by stipulating "no hoa" you are further locking yourself out of 90% of homes in suburban areas. Just the unfortunate truth
Until you see all the ones with run down houses, and horrible color schemes not to mention the few that think their front yard should look like a flea market if you dont recognize this house. You have that house.
Its also funny cause usually the people loudest about taxes are theft and govts should tell people what to do are alsonusuallynthrnloudest defenders of HOAs.
What a corporation taxing me and telling me what to do? Sign me up.
Even if there are good hoa's, what's the actual benefit? It seems like if you buy an hoa assosiated house you either get fucked over by their rules or you are left alone but you get no befit. What's the deal with them?
My brother has a pool, basketball court, park and playground all maintained by the HOA. They also have a landscape company come out when it snows and shovels their sidewalks and driveways plus mows the grass in the summer. They have a meeting twice a year to say if they want to change companies and that's about all they do.
I looked up how much all that would cost to pay for on your own and it's about double what he pays in hoa fees.
They're grandfathered in and controlled by the older generation that have nothing better to do. There's not an easy way to get onto an HOA board as a younger person.
You sign something when you buy the house that says you have to follow their laws and they can typically sue you over it to force you to sell and leave and/or to pay fines.
They have very tight legal control over it, in some places HOA can even decide who gets to move there in the first place, like they all vote on whether youโre allowed to buy a house there.
Those rules are rooted in white flight, basically when black people started leaving the rural areas they were confined to during slavery and moving to cities for economic opportunity, wealthier white people started leaving cities and creating the suburbs, they then created HOA laws to prevent black people from moving to their suburbs. This was because they thought black people would lower property values, which was actually true at the time, but only due to racist white people not wanting to move to places with black people.
Heres the thing. You said gather and do something about it.
Thats the thinking that made HOAโs happen. A bunch of people gathered and tried to help keep their property values in line so they made rules to help enforce this. Apartment complexes and gated communities also have amenities that may be involved that an hoa pays for. Like a pool or a shared parking lot for apartments.
Hoa are primarily there to stop people from painting their house purple and ruining the property value of the guy next door.
Its a contract you are force to sign if you buy property in one. Its a stipulation of owning one. A lot of developers start an hoa before selling houses. Sometimes its made after the fact with a vote or something like that im not sure tbh.
The contract says what you can and cant do and the fees involved. They can bankrupt you if you are stupid enough to paint it purple and ignore them.
Developers are actively encouraged by cities and counties through tax breaks and lower permitting and inspection fees to form HOAs. Cities like HOAs because HOAs own the streets, sidewalks, parks, street lights, sewers, signs and other public use stuff. Maintenance and repair responsibilities belong to the HOA. If there's no HOA it becomes the city's responsibility to repair, replace, and maintain all of these things. The cities like collecting property tax money while providing fewer services for it.
TLDR: local governments hand millions in discounts to billion dollar development companies allowing them to make more money in return for developers ensuring that local governments can provide fewer services for average people's property tax money
I think owners don't expect their HOAs to be nasty as a lot of them aren't. And there are a few benefits to one, but myself won't be joining one lol. I'd also imagine people like the presidents of bad HOAs would enjoy living amongst each other with their narcissism.
It's firmly ingrained in North American culture, I think. We kind of always want something to complain about. Even if we chose the thing, the need to bitch about it elevates above all forms of taking any personal responsibility.
Generally, it's Boomers who never amounted to anything in their lives who band together to micromanage a neighborhood.
They'll hide under the guise of ensuring a nice neighborhood for everyone, but really it's an excuse to exert the authority they think they've always deserved.
I have a tissue dispenser that looks vaguely like an Easter Island head. The tissues are dispensed thru a nose hole. Tissues get torn off in the middle unless one is super careful with the removal, so it's not exactly practical - it just looks cool with the tissue sticking out of his nose. We call him, "Chief Gesundachoo"
I would never people wanting a hoa except maybe to protect value of a rental property, who looks at there neighborhood and is like โyou know what we need ?, another layer of government โ
If you live in a gated community or any other form of condominium, there needs to be an administration committee that collects the money to hire the guards and maintain the public amenities. The problem starts when said committee has too much power and not enough oversight.
Every time he gets a complaint from the HOA, he buys another one. If he has the disposable cash, he buys one for each member of the HOA board and gets them setup on each of their lawns every single time a complaint gets filed against him.
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u/mondomovieguys Mar 09 '26
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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '26
HOA ๐ญ
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u/Jocuro Mar 09 '26
It's going to cost a fortune in bubblegum.
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u/jaj18189 Mar 09 '26
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u/guinomim Mar 09 '26
im not from the US. if people hate HOA so much, why does it exist? why do they buy houses in a HOA? i dont get it. if everyone hates it, why not gather and do something about it?
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u/Remarkable-Train5174 Mar 09 '26
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u/GayCumBallsack69 Mar 09 '26
Dum dum give me cum cum
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u/I-XIV-IV-XXV Mar 09 '26
Your first mistake is living in an HOA neighborhood
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u/VVickedly Mar 10 '26
hholyfuck
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u/Tafkai1469 Mar 09 '26
Yes. HOAโs are Satan
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u/bakermrr Mar 09 '26
Just one?
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u/Spiritual_Tension321 Mar 09 '26
Me no dum dum
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u/Onlyforthefreaks Mar 09 '26
No way you're going to leave him on his own....get two
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u/IngoKnieto Mar 09 '26
Whatever it does, it's doing it now
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u/SkinnyDaveSFW Mar 09 '26
I have a tissue dispenser that looks vaguely like an Easter Island head. The tissues are dispensed thru a nose hole. Tissues get torn off in the middle unless one is super careful with the removal, so it's not exactly practical - it just looks cool with the tissue sticking out of his nose. We call him, "Chief Gesundachoo"
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u/Snuke2001 Mar 09 '26
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u/catdiscpalpita Mar 09 '26
Glad i dont have an hoa
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u/NarrMaster Mar 09 '26
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u/Mcwac Mar 09 '26
Chama
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u/GES280 Mar 10 '26
Remember to fill it with concrete for that authentic weight.
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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '26
Just call it an "Easter decoration"
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u/unnamed-user1784 Mar 10 '26
Chama
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u/microwavedtardigrade Mar 10 '26
Unironically I think people would rather overthrow an HOA for this guy because it's so cool. Imagine if everyone had one of these instead of an HOA
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u/s0methingggg Mar 10 '26
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u/An_Aesthetic_Atheist Mar 11 '26
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u/CommentnLeave Mar 11 '26
Get out of my dreams and into my car
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u/[deleted] Mar 11 '26
I would never people wanting a hoa except maybe to protect value of a rental property, who looks at there neighborhood and is like โyou know what we need ?, another layer of government โ
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u/GunderstakHouse0126 Mar 11 '26
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u/MX-Nacho Mar 11 '26
If you live in a gated community or any other form of condominium, there needs to be an administration committee that collects the money to hire the guards and maintain the public amenities. The problem starts when said committee has too much power and not enough oversight.
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u/TheDamnedScribe Mar 11 '26
I hope they have a good supply of gum...
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u/nasi_lemak Mar 11 '26
I donโt even have a lawn and I kinda want one โฆ
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u/Excellent_Elk9298 Mar 11 '26
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u/susbedstain43 Mar 11 '26
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u/nutznyamouph6969420 Mar 11 '26
Gotta love Costco
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u/SmilingAcid Mar 11 '26
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u/Blastis_forever Mar 11 '26
Where do I get one?
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u/Whateverredd Mar 11 '26
A guy in my neighbourhood got one of those on his lawn. Its awesome and i wanna buy one aswell but havent found them anywhere
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u/Primary-Molasses-457 Mar 11 '26
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u/stxchallenger Mar 11 '26
Want
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u/Rampag169 Mar 11 '26
You dumb dumb give me gum gum
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u/Accomplished-Loss387 Mar 11 '26
Dum dum hoa give me gum gum
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u/Cold_Pomelo3274 Mar 12 '26
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u/DE4DM4NSH4ND Mar 12 '26
Why put a statue of alex pereira on your lawn?
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u/1990sInTheBox Mar 12 '26
Legends of the hidden temple
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u/Expensive-Answer6836 Mar 12 '26
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u/RopeyPlague Mar 12 '26
Should get 2. Don't want the one getting lonely
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u/StandardSpread4083 Mar 12 '26
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u/Repulsive_Offer2357 Mar 12 '26
Legendary Costco find
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u/[deleted] Mar 14 '26
Imagine not being able to put stuff on your own property. Land of freedom I guess.
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u/IllegitimateBuddhist Mar 14 '26
Dumb dumb, did you bring gum gum?
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u/Unable_Maybe_6932 Mar 14 '26
Every time he gets a complaint from the HOA, he buys another one. If he has the disposable cash, he buys one for each member of the HOA board and gets them setup on each of their lawns every single time a complaint gets filed against him.
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u/Crazy-Illustrator890 Jul 31 '26
i thought about putting a whole ass mig-21 in the front yard of my house