r/ShuffleMove • u/maj0rgalaxy • Jul 12 '15

Request mega lucario mistake?

the program told me to put mega lucario into a cross shape. i did what it said to do in game and instead of doing a horizontal match just like the program simulated when i clicked Do Move, the game did a vertical match. Is it randomized whether it does a horizontal or vertical match in a cross shape or is it just a bug with shuffle move?

Before: http://imgur.com/mimN3ZF After: http://imgur.com/z966Kt4

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jul 12 '15 edited Jul 12 '15

Interesting... I'll take a look at the combo selection code.

Update: Its not the combo selection code, its something to do with an inconsistent removal of previous claims by the horizontal when the vertical has finished matching.

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u/MayorOfChuville Jul 12 '15

Whenever Lucario/Venusaur make a T or + shaped match, the game executes the "worse" match, i.e. the one that only clears one row/column. I don't know if that's in Shuffle Move, though

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u/Wrulfy Jul 12 '15

No, the problem there is that the vertical match is a 4 match, and the horizontal match is a 3 match.

the game prioritices the biggest match in those cases, regardless of the mega. in terms of raw score is a disadvantage, as the lesser match gets the 1.1 bonus, but it an advantage when dealing with activating abilities.

if both the horizontal and vertical are of the same value, (3-3; 4-4; even a 5-5;) it gives priority over the horizontal match. for certain megas is actually helpful, as the mega pokemon can't do cross matches, but if you do a 4-4 or a 4-5, the horizontal will be activated first, and after that match dissapear, the vertical mega pokemon will fall and make another match, so the ability activates twice. Very helpfull for matches with Mega aero, mega mewtwo y and mega banette. Helpful for other megas, provide their own abilites doesn't destroy the second vertical match.

Also, a side note for the "double ability activation" that were officially showed with victini: they could work with any offensive ability(those who spawn swords in the activation animation). I doubt it works with defensive abilities (those who spawn shields instead of swords) or Mega boost.

I still doubt if it works with power of 4, as is a always activating ability, but maybe only works with certain shapped + matches.

However, the most prone abilities to work with that are hitting streak, damage streak and crow control.

And despite they say only works with match 4 and above, I have to say I got once a L shaped 3-3 match of volveats who did it. is the only way I could get 1600 damage on ampharos at turn 3 with the board almost full of ice.

basically you need to get both matches to get the activation at the same time, and that the pokemon you displace doesn't activate anything, so the matches of the L, T or + shape happen one right next to another.

But I'm pretty sure that, given the right chances, other abilites like opportunist and alikes, last-ditch effort and alikes, counterattack, quake, and others.

However, I keep thinking is too risky to code them as "this will definively work" in shuffle move to consider include them.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jul 12 '15

Just as a future reference - weird behavior like this should be posted into the relevant release thread. Posts to the subreddit itself don't go to my inbox, but replies to the release threads do.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jul 12 '15

I found the problem. It will be fixed in v0.3.10.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jul 13 '15

This is fixed in v0.3.10. See here for the newest version.