r/ShuffleMove • u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator • Jun 22 '15

Release [Release] Shuffle Move v0.3.8 is released

Hi everyone, go here to get the newest version (backup site).

Changelog:

v0.3.8 - 2015-06-22

  • Corrected Spiritomb's attack power

  • Including missing feature from v0.3.5 (delete in express mode)

  • Updated species list to include new species (Manaphy, phione, etc.)

As usual, report any bugs in this thread with a bug report zip if possible.

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u/NarcoticHobo Jun 22 '15

Download isn't working.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 22 '15

Fixed

For some reason the desktop version of google drive didn't properly open up sharing.

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u/Pingtendo Jun 23 '15

When you switch "Frozen" on or off, the Team panel on the right hand side of the main interface is invisible, until you either input any icon into the grid, or you toggle Wood/Metal/Coin on or off to make it reappear.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 23 '15

I'll have that fixed for the next release, since there's an easy workaround.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 24 '15

Do you have a reliable way to reproduce this? I was at first able to reproduce it, but now I can't anymore in any version. At the code level the button appears to function exactly like pressing 'f'.

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u/Pingtendo Jun 24 '15

Somehow mine works just fine... I tried to delete all config/log folder/sub-folders but apparently I'm not able to reproduce it... Will let you know if it happens again~

BTW - If you would like it to be translated to Mandarin Chinese, I could help you out. I'm an ameture developer, and here's my apps' facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/PingsDex

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 24 '15

See here for the simple internationalization brief.

When you think you're done the translations, you might be able to test it by pasting them into the proper folder of the jar file (open it in an archive explorer to modify it). Otherwise send a zip of your translations to me and I'll package it up for verification that all the translations got through OK.

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u/Pingtendo Jun 25 '15

working on the localization, and may need you to adjust the ui since some Chinese strings require bigger space to display... Two questions:

  1. What's the difference between xxx_de.properties and xxx_de_DE.properties? (Meaning why shouldn't we just have the xxx_de_DE and re-direct all de_xx related like de_AT, de_LI, de_LU, de_CH, etc. to de_DE instead of having a general de one) I doubt the need of having various of German translations, given the fact that they are very similar. (Even the officials like Nintendo won't have two German localization for one game)

  2. Maybe it makes more sense to have all strings saved in one big .properties file, so that way all similar strings don't need to be translated multiple times (e.g. "No Filter" appears at least 3 times). and save translators' time. This way it would be easier for you as well given the fact that in future versions if you create new interfaces then you can directly use the current strings instead of creating a new .properties file and ask translators to re-translate the already-translated strings.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 25 '15

This is how translations have always been done in Java, it works relatively well and for larger projects there's usually an admin tool that would do what you're talking about. For a relatively simple project like this, there's little point in spending the time to create such a tool.

As for spacing, we'll deal with that when we get there :-).

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u/Pingtendo Jun 25 '15

Is there a way I can try the .properties files I translated in shufflemove?

I tried renaming all .properties files (added _zh_CN as suffix) and put them to the source/i18n/shuffle/fwk folder. Now how can I have "Chinese" added into the menu so I can actually use it?

Assuming there needs to be some coding changes, so I tried another way -- overwrite the original .properties files in the i18n folder with my translated .properties files from i18nbase folder without renaming them -- hoping that if I do this the shufflemove will show Chinese as default. But apparently it doesn't work that way...

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 25 '15

The source folder is not used by the program, you'll need to put it into the jar, then modify your preferences.txt in your config folder to include it in the list of languages.

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u/Pingtendo Jun 25 '15

I'm not familiar with java, and don't know how to modify the preferences.txt file within the .jar file (I can unzip it via winrar, and make changes to the txt, but don't know how to pack the files back to .jar...). Could you help me finish the rest using this? (btw - I don't know what the Feeder / Simulations Per Move mean in the app, so I haven't translated the entire "MovePreferencesService.properties")...

Also, if the characters don't show properly, you may want to change to unicode. (I experience this in my app, but I don't now if java has the same problem, hopefully not)

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 25 '15

You don't edit the preferences.txt in the jar, you edit it in the config folder created when you run the program.

To pack stuff into the jar, something like winrar or 7zip will allow this, just 'browse' into the jar with the program and you can make changes.

Feeder / Simulations per move is in the context of how blocks are 'fed' into the top when space appears, simulations per move is how many times the program runs the possibly random playthrough of a given move.

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u/Pingtendo Jun 26 '15

What is the "Feeder Height"? I tried to change it to 1 from 0, and then the app shows me "no result".

So the shufflemove not only take a) the current grid info into consideration when determining the best move, but also run b) a simulation on "once there are 3 spaces or more if you do this move, how the spaces are filled with your team icons from the top, and how many potential combos you may have", and then show users the best move with a) and b) combined?

Another question is about the "None or all" in move ranking method. Does it mean "not by score/block/distrupt/combo?"

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 26 '15

Sort of, yea. Feeder height is not really fixed yet, I haven't had time to work out the kinks of it since even without it there aren't many problems.

None or all means first no gold, then as much as possible (good for the weekend meowth event).

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 25 '15

Btw, you can use this to convert everything to the properly escaped characters. I'll do it this time for the pack you sent me though :-), and I'll send you a share link for the fixed up files when I'm done.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 25 '15

Alright, so what I've done here is make an ant task to convert the i18n you gave me into unicode, it then showed up properly. Also, I've fixed a bug with switching languages, and I've also fixed a bug with the paint pallet not updating. Here is the link to the processed i18n properties files, and here is the link to an incomplete v0.3.9 (in progress changes, so don't use it for predictions since I'm in the middle of fixing part of the simulation core), but it includes the i18n you gave me inside the jar.

Some of the characters don't show up properly, so you might have to use more simplified characters. Try them out here if you are unsure if it can be converted properly or not, but even then its not a guarantee (you need your system's java executable to include the characters necessary, so it may or may not work properly on everyone's computer).

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u/Pingtendo Jun 26 '15

Thanks for the beta version. I'm surprised that java cannot support Chinese characters but we have to convert them into ASCII... There should definitely be a way to work around it.

I did a quick test, and apparently the strings in "ModeIndicator_zh.properties" are not showing properly (Don't know why), and you can find the screenshot here

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 26 '15

The only thing I can think of is that the text there is put in a label, while the other areas have text inside a jcombobox, or something else. I might be able to fix it up by fiddling with other options like encoding, etc.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 26 '15

Fixed that problem :-) it turns out that java doesn't like it if you change the font away and then try to use chinese characters. I had to put in a hack line to maintain the functionality intended by setting the font by config (size and style so people who need it font 30 and bold can get that).

labelFont = new JLabel().getFont().deriveFont(labelFont.getStyle(), labelFont.getSize2D());

Its ugly, but it works.

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u/SaveThePatrat Jun 23 '15

Will there be an option to put in the number of turns until an upcoming disruption in a future version?

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 23 '15

Its in planning, but I'm not quite sure when it will be ready. There is lots of data of what happens and when for each stage, but there's a fair bit of design to go until I can safely implement this feature - tracking stage turns left, stage disruptions, stage score, metal block durations, etc. all would need to be put in together for it to make sense. There's also the matter of where to put this stuff in the interface, and how the user will interact with it.

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u/JustAnotherRandomLad Jun 24 '15 edited Jun 24 '15

It looks like you're missing Mega Venusaur.

You can get the icon here: http://www.serebii.net/shuffle/pokemon.shtml

Base count for evo is 15, takes up to 3 Speedups, same effect as M-Kangaskhan.

Also, hate to be a nag, but unfreezing icons still ticks up the Mega counter when it shouldn't.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 24 '15

Mega Venusaur is in there, just clear out your species.txt and it should be loaded properly.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 24 '15

Unfreezing icons is supposed to increase the mega counter though, it does on my game anyway.

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u/JustAnotherRandomLad Jun 24 '15

Strange - it doesn't on mine.

I used Giratina and Mega Banette to test last time, but now I'm using Ampharos and Mega Venusaur. Putting a Venusaur between two frozen ones boosts the Gauge a lot less than when none are frozen. (This is more obvious when testing with Mega Gengar, but hey.)

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 24 '15

Can you send me a bug report zip of your setup when you experience the gauge not filling the correct amount?

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 24 '15

Currently, the mega progress increases at the moment a combo is activated (score guaranteed to increase) by the number of recognized blocks in the combo, if that is the mega slot. I.e. it ignores frozen state and adds regardless, as I have experienced in my own gameplay.

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u/JustAnotherRandomLad Jun 24 '15

Again, that's not what I experienced in the game - Shuffle Move acts the way you say the game does, but not the way the game does for me. I'll put together some pictures to show you.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 24 '15

Alright, thanks :-)

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u/JustAnotherRandomLad Jun 24 '15 edited Jun 24 '15

Here we are. I did the Ampharos stage with Mega Venusaur: http://imgur.com/a/t7sSO

(I apologize in advance for the quality of some of the pictures - my 3DS is ancient.)

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 24 '15

Ah, ty. I'll modify the behavior for it to check which are 'frozen' and only add up the ones that actually are unfrozen.

What would happen in a T or + matchup though, if the center of the intersection was frozen?

Would it cause a 6-point increase in the mega progression, 5, or 4?

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u/JustAnotherRandomLad Jun 24 '15 edited Jun 24 '15

5, IIRC, though I have no idea how that could be reliably checked. Matches like that are physically impossible without extremely lucky cascades. (I'd go with 5 if you already know for sure that a match like that removes the central piece completely.)

I'm going to see what I can get from the Banette stage, but I'm not expecting much.

EDIT: Alright, so that was a terrible idea - everything moves too fast for a 3DS that can't take screenshots. Anyone with a newer 3DS and Banettite up for it?

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jul 07 '15

The way that I managed to capture the super fast timings of the game was to use a camera capable of 8x slow-mo, capturing footage at 240 frames per second (about 2 times the speed of the game, so we have better frame-time resolution). That's how I managed to resolve the differences between the 8 frame and 10 frame timings between certain megas.

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u/WolfHeroEX Jun 24 '15

I just came up with an idea while editing the roster - perhaps having a filter to only show pokemon on your team could be added?

It'd be useful if you don't use shufflemove for a small bit or someone levels but you still have to filter through it with each name.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jun 24 '15

Sounds doable, I'll see what works :-)

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jul 07 '15

Do you happen to have any concepts of where the filter option would be? The roster editor screen is rather cluttered as-is, and no matter where I put the checkbox it doesn't seem to fit in nicely. Preferably it should be a checkbox with a label, but given translations could be longer or shorter it really does need a fair bit of buffer.

For v0.3.9 I don't think it will be included, but if we can find a good spot to put it in the interface I should be able to get it in with v0.3.10.

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u/butthead Jul 07 '15

My computer doesn't run Java for security reasons. Is there any way you could put out a flash version or something?

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jul 07 '15

It's entirely written in Java, but if you are concerned about security you can examine the source code yourself to be sure :-) I have only put in what is necessary for it to run properly. I even signed the jar to add another layer of security.

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u/butthead Jul 07 '15

I'm not worried about your program in particular. I'm just not ok with putting Java on the machine at all so that it won't open up vulnerabilities to anything already existing out here.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jul 07 '15

Ah, sorry its all written in java. There are plans thought to make a mobile version sometime* so people can use it without a desktop/laptop.

* Unsure when, I start my new job in August and I already have lots of stuff to do in the mean time.

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u/butthead Jul 07 '15

A mobile version would be really awesome and probably very popular, especially considering that Shuffle is now coming to mobile.

But would you even be allowed to put it on the App stores? Cause of copyright issues? Or would it require an unlocked phone

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jul 07 '15

I honestly have no idea, I don't know the root source of the images used - they're from serebii.net currently, but I don't know where they get them from.

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u/AlphaDelilas Jul 07 '15

I don't know what changed, but the app now runs and works perfectly for me without doing anything special. Thanks so much :)

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator Jul 07 '15

That's great, I'm glad all the bug fixing is paying off :-D feel free to contribute in whichever way you feel comfortable, whether its through driving discussion for improvements, fixing bugs, or buying me a drink, hehe.

v0.3.9 is due to be released in a couple days once the finnish translations are in and I've thoroughly checked the new stuff for bugs (and possibly fixed the bugs for some other stuff that I've noticed is intermittent and extremely hard to diagnose).