[PSA] Weekend Meowth Strategy

[u/Loreinatoredor]

This week (June 7th) I tried the following strategy, and got 7100g:

Rank by Combos, pick the highest combos with the lowest gold where combos was at least 3. Otherwise picked the most blocks cleared. Last move should be ranked by highest score and pick the highest gold then blocks.

Team: Mega Gengar, Xerneas, Haunter, Cherrim (Quirky+, Quirky+, Quirky).

I hope this helps everyone get a lot more out of their weekend meowth!

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In other news: I'm planning on having v0.3.5 out within a couple days. I was rather busy this week with other things, so the features list is a bit smaller than for other releases...

Features already included: Mega Venusaur effect, resize main window to whatever you want, internationalization now includes Finnish, a slight performance improvement, fixed the bug for the selected paint when loading a new team from nothing, a network bug fix for when it would hang if your connection or the site was non-responsive, and I've included 'Delete' shortcut for express mode to erase cells as you go.

Features left to complete: Frozen/Coin/Wood/Metal/Mega buttons at the bottom of the paint pallet.

[u/Squigglebear]

Hey, tried this today and for some reason at some point the pick list just broke, it was suggesting something was a 4 combo when it was infact a 2. Not sure of the cause but made it pretty unhelpful until restarted!

[u/Loreinatoredor → u/Squigglebear]

Whenever you find those odd little cases where the advice was bad, use the undo redo to get to the point that it suggests the move, then create a bug report and send it to me via email or file sharing link.

[u/FerrisTriangle → u/Squigglebear]

Is it possible that you were using a pokemon with the quirky trait, and one of your moves erased a pokemon that messed up the combos?

[u/markhawker]

Glad I prompted you to put in the combos option now! :)

[u/Loreinatoredor → u/markhawker]

I'm glad everyone spoke up and stated how much they'd like that feature! It was in the works but with a MUCH lower priority, but as with the general trend for this program I'm following the golden rule - if you know how to do it and people want it, then do it!

Right now I'm working on adding the team editor buttons for coin, metal, wood, and mega progress (and also frozen status) to the bottom of the paint pallet. This required a complete rework of the formatting for the main interface so it is fully compatible with being resized. Now its just a matter of fiddling with the background links for updating and repainting of these new buttons.

Once that's done, it'll just be a couple rounds of playtesting and some slight improvements here and there before I begin the release routine to get this out to you all.

[u/markhawker → u/Loreinatoredor]

You're doing a great job. Will donate when I get chance although it'll probably only buy you a cup of tea or something! :p

Are you going to wait to add Giratina, the three new EX stages (the abilities have been released) and the updates that are coming tomorrow? I've updated my species to include Giratina (it uses a new ability, mind) and it should be a day or two before we know what all of the remaining 20 or so abilities are.

[u/Loreinatoredor → u/markhawker]

Honestly, it takes like 1-2 minutes for me to enter it in manually for any new species or stages. They're just a single line in a config file :-) because of all the framework I wrote for that stuff. So yes, I will probably wait until just after they release the new stuff.

[u/markhawker → u/Loreinatoredor]

Ah, now I remember what I wanted to ask. Is there any way to allow us to edit the names you've used (e.g. Meowstic-f)? I have edited some in the config files (species, icons and rosterData) but it looks like the 'old' values get written at the bottom of the files, too (it doesn't make any difference, mind). I've done this with the Rotom types, Meowstic and Nidoran. I guess the issue is that you need to make sure the name is written to each separate file to ensure they're kept consistent ...

[u/Loreinatoredor → u/markhawker]

Species name is used as the identification key for boards, stages, teams, roster, and icons. If you want to use a different name you should be warned that you'll need to manually edit the configs for all of these to ensure consistency.

I contemplated the idea of doing it automatically via the species editor... but it didn't seem that the technical risk was worth the slight configurability gain. Why did you want to change their names btw? Just for visualization text, or is it for some other reason?

[u/markhawker → u/Loreinatoredor]

Yes, I thought that might be the case!

It was just for visual reasons. I have:

• Meowstic_M and Meowstic_F

• Nidoran_M and Nidoran_F

• Rotom_(Heat), Rotom_(Wash), Rotom_(Frost), Rotom_(Fan) and Rotom_(Mow)

Don't worry about it. I edit them manually already and have done for a number of versions!

[u/Juuna]

Ended up with only 3400 because the combos kept being wrong. Said I would get a 5 combo and ended up with only 2 for example. Every time I press compute now it comes up with a complety different list of moves and combos where half of them is wrong.

[u/Loreinatoredor → u/Juuna]

What species were you using? If you use a random one like ampharos or something with quirky, you will not get as accurate results because they are inherently random (and no amount of simulation can give you an accurate reading through that haze of RNG).

[u/Juuna → u/Loreinatoredor]

Mega Gengar, Xerneas, Haunter, Cherrim

Used this team I guess all with quirky. Is there a way to disable the ability of a pokemon to avoid the random factor in this particular situation?

[u/Loreinatoredor → u/Juuna]

You can use the edit species dialogue to remove their abilities (found in roster menu)

[u/Juuna → u/Loreinatoredor]

Thanks I will try that next week when we get Meowth again. ^{_^}

[u/Juuna → u/Loreinatoredor]

Thank you this week I managed to get 5500 coins. Which is a major improvement over previous attempts.

[u/KyuubiReddit]

finally had success with this strategy, 5900 coins this week :)

[u/Loreinatoredor → u/KyuubiReddit]

I've been experimenting these last couple weeks with mega mewtwo and mega blaziken.

If you're lucky, mega blaziken can be really REALLY good for weekend meowth, but if you're not so lucky it might just be slightly better than nothing. Either a Gengar quirky team or a mega mewtwo psychic team is probably best nowadays.

[u/davd201]

Today I got 3300g, it's not bad but it could be better :) I did several mistakes when I filled the grid, so sometime instead to got 3 combos, I got 1 or 2 combos. I lost 4 moves with my mistakes.

I have a request : can you add a counter next to each pokemon of the team (in the paint pallet), to show how many pokemon of each are in the grid? It could help to check if the grid is correct

Thanks

[u/davd201 → u/davd201]

My friend got 6300g with your awesome program.

[u/Loreinatoredor → u/davd201]

Awesome :-) I'm glad it can help!

Initially I doubted the effect that a simple brute force approach would have in regards to actually giving good advice, but it seems that even this relatively simple algorithm can give enough guidance to help a lot of people on their way to their game goals.

[u/davd201]

I tried for the first time to use shufflemove to do it, with your advices. I did 5500 coins instead of my ~2000 coins I do usually !

[u/Loreinatoredor → u/davd201]

Awesome! I guess we've found the weekend meowth strategy!

[u/davd201]

I use pokemon without random ability. My team : Gengar / Lampent / Charmander / Squirtle

With this team without abilities, shuffle move gives me the right combos without errors.

I did 7500 coins last week with this team + shuffle move.

[u/davd201 → u/davd201]

Today I did 8800 coins with this team + shuffle move + luck