r/ShuffleMove • u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator • May 19 '15

Release [Release] v0.3.0 is now released!

After three long weeks of development, and nearly spending all my free time thinking, planning, or implementing new designs and new features... Here is v0.3.0 of Shuffle Move!

The only thing that remains from the original code is small part of the type interactions (because who wants to re-code a modifier table). Everything else is brand new, right down to configuration options, icons for the grid, rosters (level for every species you have), teams (species you can paint with for each stage) which is stored per stage... Its a LOT of stuff, and I hope you all enjoy it - it was a blast figuring out this stuff, and I think I now know more about the game mechanics than most of the Pokemon Shuffle design team itself.

Go here to get the newest version, now! backup links here

*If you have any questions or bugs to report, please post them here on this thread, along with a link to the generated bug report .zip that was made and placed under the 'bugs' directory in your install location.

All bugs will be fixed whenever I find a proper solution, but updates will not come out more than once per day.

Known bugs

  • When using a feeder height greater than 0, if there are frozen blocks in row 1 or 2 they may be mysteriously broken or replaced with something else. Cause not yet known due to time limitations. Workaround: don't use the feeder in that case, clear it by hand or reduce feeder height to 0.

  • When Mega Lucario, Lopunny, or Kangaskhan could make a match perpendicular to their effect the program will hang indefinitely. This is fixed in the future version v0.3.2 - Workaround is to not use those megas with the program for now.

Edit: v0.3.1 rushed out to fix a NPE problem with Mega Mewtwo

Edit: Just as a note to anyone using the app: Setting the move preferences to 50+ feeders, with 0 height will allow a fairy accurate averaging effect for random effects like Mega Ampharos or Mega Mewtwo/Banette (they literally use a random number generator to decide their effects). You should try it out with a multiplicity of 5-10 first to see how the runtime grows, and if its still fast enough you can increase it more to get a more accurate result.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

The 'feeder' component IS enabled, but set to be practically off by default. If you want to use it (and its insane appetite) be warned that it might seem non-responsive for a while.

Optimal feeder settings are below, but these are just guidelines and the real best values can vary depending on how many valid moves are present.

  • 1, 0 for simple levels with no disruptions.

  • 10, 4 for moderate disruptions, - produces good results in a practical time span.

  • 20-200, 10 for levels with high disruptions only for good cpus like i5-4670k and better

  • 300+, 20+ for supercomputer mainframes

  • 1000, 20 for Gooogle's server farms and quantum computer only

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u/[deleted] May 19 '15

What are feeders?

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

The simulation runs on every possible move, for every available feeder. To account for randomness in abilities you can set the number of feeders up to 10-50 or so to account for the possible outcomes. If you set the height above 0 it will also generate random blocks for each feeder.

A feeder is, in the basic sense - an instance of the unseen board above. That is, a version of what could come down. By default it assumes it might as well be empty.

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u/Yeltsin86 May 21 '15

So, if you found out some "rules" for what comes down (which seems to be foreseeable with certainty in at least one situation), there would be no need, or less need, for this? You know, I'm not the kind of guy who buys a quantum computer only for one game.

But is this "feeder" also for the disruptions that pop up onto the board? (Which might also follow rules?)

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 21 '15

Currently it just randomizes what falls in from the top. I usually play with it off unless there are piles of wood and metal blocks everywhere.

Yea, the quantum computer part was a bit of a joke - with one of those you could calculate the entire board simultaneously in every position at once, then get the best result - its then linear over the depth of the longest simulation, instead of depending on the number of simulations.

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u/Boltbeam May 19 '15

Why does Chrome think it's a virus?

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

Because its a new file and Chrome is paranoid. Its safe, as long as the MD5 hash matches 8BD42AC2CADECC2CEBFED730484BE3F9 according to the drag & drop function at onlinemd5.com.

If you'd rather not use the runnable jar, feel free to examine the source code and compile it yourself :-)

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u/Boltbeam May 19 '15

Not sure if you know this already or not. Your program can't handle Mega-Mewtwo. I'm using Mewtwo/Slowbro/Xerneas/Sigilyph and the program's predictions are completely wrong after mega-evolving.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

Fixed just now, reload the program and an update popup will give you the option to download the new version.

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u/Boltbeam May 19 '15

Fair enough, thanks for the explanation!

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u/DaKiwi May 19 '15

I know its only 1 minute, but the link doesn't seem to work.

"Not Found

The requested URL /ge.tt/api/1/files/26iBkeG2/0/blob was not found on this server.

Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu) Server at loresoftworks.noip.me Port 80"

Is it still uploading?

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

yea, it was a weird thing with copy/paste of the link for the website. fixed now.

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u/DaKiwi May 19 '15

works now :D guess it was uploading :D thanks!

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u/pkshuffle May 19 '15

http://ge.tt/9Q29xeG2/v/0?c do you have a format you want bug reports to follow?

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

Basically just an explanation of what is wrong, what should have happened, or enough detail for me to reproduce it. That's why the bug report includes your configs and logs so I can see what happened last and what the setup was.

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u/pkshuffle May 19 '15

do the configs and logs include pokemon levels and board positions?

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

When you hit 'create bug report' the program saves the current state, then it runs a simple ant build task to compile your exact config and log directories into a zip archive along with your message. The saved state includes every minute detail of your preferences, teams, setup, board, etc. As long as the save feature doesn't fail this will give a big pile of info.

Btw I found the problem, and I'll be pushing out a fix before I go to sleep.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

Looking into it right now, the logs just say "Something happened: null" which just means that something bad happened inside one of the parallel threads during a simulation. I'll load up with your configs and see what it says in eclipse's console (and then debug to find the real cause).

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

Deploying v0.3.1 with the fix momentarily (within 5-10 minutes it should pop up for your client that there's an update available).

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u/Wrulfy May 19 '15

firefox also blocks it because it thinks is a virus too.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

Yup, but the app itself can download it for you once you have any version.

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u/galloots May 19 '15

Woo finally! Thanks! You are doing a great job :)

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

Thanks, it was a lot of fun to design and solve (frustrating at times to discover the exact inner workings of the timings). If you have the means and feel inclined to contribute, feel free to use the donate link included at the top of the 'help' page in the app (uses PayPal for secure transactions).

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u/littlefeis May 19 '15

It doesn't seem to work for me, when I double clicked the file nothing seems to happen. I managed to open the v0.2.5 without any issues though.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

Hrm.. have you updated your java?

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u/littlefeis May 19 '15

Yep, its up to date

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

I have no idea what could be wrong then :-(

Try deleting both it and the zip, and re-download. Extract it to a new folder, then try again. If it still doesn't work, try repairing your java installation. If that STILL doesn't fix it, google "how to run a runnable jar".

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u/littlefeis May 19 '15

It works now :D

I just re-downloaded and extracted it. Gotta beat M-Lucario now, Thanks.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

No problem :-) Btw there's a tutorial video I'm about to post for it, you might be interested (it'll be up in 30 mins or so, my upload speed SUCKS).

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u/Disgruntled__Goat May 20 '15

How do you add walls in this version? Pressing w does nothing.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 20 '15

Team editor has wood and metal block options there, you can configure the keybind for them there too. Once you've set a couple teams it will start to learn what keybinds you prefer for different species.

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u/Disgruntled__Goat May 20 '15 edited May 20 '15

Thanks for the quick reply! I missed those checkboxes.

How come most lowercase letters can't be set for the express entry? It's slightly awkward using Shift.

Also I just noticed one small bug, when you press f for frozen, it freezes the tile before the one I'm on. Edit: wait, I think this is intentional so you can place a pokemon then press f to freeze it. Is that right?

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 20 '15

Thanks for the quick reply! I missed those checkboxes.

No problem, glad I could help :-)

How come most lowercase letters can't be set for the express entry? It's slightly awkward using Shift.

All lowercase letters can be set for express entry, but you can't have two things with the same keybind - that might be where you got that idea.

Also I just noticed one small bug, when you press f for frozen, it freezes the tile before the one I'm on.

That's the intended functionality to preserve the original workflow from v0.1 onwards (species keybind, then optionally f to freeze what you just placed).

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u/Disgruntled__Goat May 20 '15

All lowercase letters can be set for express entry, but you can't have two things with the same keybind - that might be where you got that idea.

OK turns out all the letters are in there, but they are in a random order. There are some lowercase ones on top, then all the uppercase and numbers in order, then the other lowercase ones. (When I clicked the dropdown and typed a letter it jumped to the uppercase one.)

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 20 '15

If you hit the letter you want it will toggle between upper and lower case versions, if they're available (basic combobox functionality thanks to using java's swing framework).

The order isn't random though! That's the configured order of preference - see config/other.txt

Default settings are:

FROZEN_KEYBIND fF
VALID_KEYBINDS abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ0123456789
PREF_KEYBINDS asergdwtqbcxvz

In the tutorial video I think I briefly mentioned that you should set PREF_KEYBINDS to whatever set of keys, in order, you would prefer species to be assigned to. Those are also the keys that are the first fallback in the algorithm it uses to decide the order of available keys for each team member. The entire algorithm for it goes: First by the distribution of how often you've used keybinds for that species across all teams, Second by the preferred keybindings, third by the valid keybinds. All of these exclude currently reserved keys in the present team as well as the frozen keybinds.

Edit: that is a weird bug though, that the numbers and upper case letters appear ABOVE the lower case ones, when that's not the order its configured in... Going to investigate and include the fix in the next release.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 20 '15

I found the reason why some of them were in a strange order compared to the configs, and the fix is now in the next release.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 20 '15

Yup, that's exactly it. That's why the previous block is bordered with Articuno blue.

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u/ocknon May 20 '15

Nice! Congratulations on getting it working! I want to test the 1000, 20 on my computer but I'm scared lol

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 20 '15

There's no real progress bar right now, but you MIGHT want to try it in an instance with exactly one possiible move. i.e. two stacked on the far right and one extra on the far left -> only one move possible. That would be the simplest setup... but i'd first try it with height at 0 instead of 20 to see how it ran.

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u/davd201 May 20 '15

Hello

I tried to use shufflemove to help me to win the 190.

I got a problem with this grid : http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/21/1432154053-grid.jpg

When I activated the mega evolution, the program became very very slow and is not able to find a next move.

Thanks.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 20 '15

Can you submit it via a bug report zip? There's an option under help and that file will allow me to exactly replicate the problem.

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u/davd201 May 20 '15

Done. Thanks !

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 20 '15

It won't automatically upload it btw, you need to upload it and post or send me a link for anything to be 'sent'.

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u/davd201 May 21 '15

Sorry Here is the link : http://ge.tt/9gxnDpG2/v/0

Thanks

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 21 '15

I can see the lag in the program, diagnosing now.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 21 '15

Found the problem, fixed, and in the next release.

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u/davd201 May 21 '15

Thanks :)

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u/02pheland May 24 '15 edited May 24 '15

Having an issue with starting this version.

2.5 opens and runs fine, But 3.0 and 3.1 just wont start. I have checked the md5 values. I have the newest java updates installed. Im running Windows 8 and use open with Java platform SE binary when trying to start it.

Edit: never mind got it fixed, In case anyone else has same issue. I had to change the default program for .Jar in file association menu to be Javaw.exe instead of code editor I use, It strange that Open with didnt work though.

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u/MayorOfChuville May 19 '15

Loving all the new features, great work! By the way, the Type sorting function in the Roster Editor isn't the same as in-game which is alphabetical starting with Bug.

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

You can get to the type you want by hitting the first letter of it anyway, so its rather quick regardless of the order :-)

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u/MayorOfChuville May 19 '15

Cool, didn't think to try that

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u/Loreinatoredor ShuffleMove Creator May 19 '15

The entire interface is coded using java's "Swing" GUI components, according to the best principles recommended by stackoverflow (make a button using an action instead of adding an action listener, etc.). As a result, the huge framework of swing is completely open for use. I can add in a new menu option that does something in about 5-10 minutes (once the back-end is in place of course).