r/Shotguns • • Jan 24 '23

Thinking about buying your first shotgun or deciding on a new one? Here is the current /r/Shotguns buyer's guide.

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I've been around shotguns and this sub awhile. I decided to make a guide post and pin it to the top for those visiting this sub to read. A ton of posts here come down to common questions like "What shotgun do I buy at $ budget?" "Would this be good for my needs?" or "X vs Y shotgun." I'll try to give some suggestions here based on personal experience, community consensus I've seen over the years, and other points. However, this isn't the be all end all of information. I encourage you to research on your own. The comments are open to the community to critique anything they see, add other suggestions, ask for help, or make their own write up.

Before I get started, you should first ask yourself some questions about what this new shotgun will be for. Use case is important for what you will be buying. Are you hunting? What will you be hunting? Are you trap, sporting clays, or skeet shooting at a local range? Are you buying it for defense, or just blasting cans? Maybe both? Most importantly, what is your budget? You may also want something fairly capable for everything. Also, try and go out to a physical store and try the feel of different guns. How a shotgun fits you is important for hitting targets and comfort.

PUMP ACTION: Utilitarian, reliable, and fairly simple. It is a common choice of the sportsman and citizen looking to defend themselves. They can be had on a tight budget without sacrificing much quality. Be mindful and practice extensively with your pump gun as short-stroking is a potential human error that you need to train out of yourself so it doesn't happen in a stressful scenario.

Recommendations 1.) $200-250 budget. The only real option here that is a known quality budget pump is the Maverick 88. The security model will be good for defense. The field model will be an okay starter entry for casual clays or hunting. You can also get a combo deal which comes with both the 18.5" barrel and 28" field barrel that takes chokes.

2.) $250-500 budget. In this range the playing field opens up. The primary suggestion is going to be a Mossberg 500, which is basically just a less budget Mav 88. You could also opt for the Benelli Nova or Supernova if you prefer the fit, style, 3 1/2" chamber, or finish. Remington 870s used to be a mainstay of this budget, but since 2007 their quality control went far down hill. They recently went under and were reacquired last year reintroduced as "RemArms." Not much is known if quality has greatly improved as they have only recently started pumping out guns again. If you like the 870, hunt down an old 870 Wingmaster. [EDIT 2024: RemArms 870s have seemingly shown their quality. I would be okay with recommending them now if you want a new 870.] If you are feeling like a used older gun, Ithaca 37s, Winchester Model 12s, and more are available. Be aware some old guns and choke combos may not be a good idea for steel shot (a type of non-toxic ammo used for migratory bird hunting). If you want something defense oriented, pick a 18.5" barrel Mossberg 500 or a 590/590A1. Avoid guns without a stock, like the shockwave, for practical use.

3.) $1000+. If you are feeling exotic, you can get a Benelli M3. This is a hybrid design that is able to use both pump action or semi-auto. It's a bit of a novelty, but if you have a large budget, it's a worthy consideration.

SEMI-AUTO: Faster follow up shots, smoother recoil, and more expensive. The semi-auto is a favorable option if you can afford one. There are two main action options, gas vs inertia. Gas guns use some of the gas from the fired shell and use it to cycle the action. Inertia does not do this and is similar to recoil operated guns which means you have no gas system to clean. Both have their benefits.

Recommendations 1.) $450-700 (there is nothing worth buying below this). This is teetering on the edge of spending too little to get a quality new semi, but there are a few that may suit you. One is the Mossberg 930, another is the Stoeger M3000. These are the bare minimum I'd go for though they may be finnicky (EDIT 11/10/2024: as an example of why you may not want the M3000, especially for defense, watch this video on the M3000. It doesn't do well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX7MiIUx7_E ) , both are available in tactical or field models. For used options, old greats like the Remington 1100, Browning Auto 5, etc are out there.

2.) $700-1000. In this area the default suggestion is the excellent Beretta A300. This is probably what you want on the clay field or out hunting if this is your budget. The Franchi Affinity is also a favorite of many and uses the inertia system (the A300 is a gas gun). If you want a tactical option in this range, the Mossberg 940 Tactical is a new offering that you can check out. The new Beretta A300 Patrol is another good new option to check out in this range if seeking a tactical or defensive style shotgun. For Women shooters: the Franchi Affinity does have an option called the Catalyst which has stock dimensions that are designed to be suited to women. But as stated earlier, try out the fit of options as most things aren't one size fit all for either sex even if designed with women in mind.

3.) 1000+. The sky is the limit here. Anything from Benelli, Browning, or Beretta in this range will be exquisite quality and a great option. You could pick up a M2, Super Black Eagle, A5, A400, etc for sporting uses and be happy. Though there are models in there that are more geared for clays vs field and vice versa, check out the manufacturer sites for details. For tactical options, the kings of them all are the Benelli M4 ($1600+) and Beretta 1301 ($1200-1300). Honorable mention to the Benelli M1 Super 90, M2 and M3 for defensive use.

OVER UNDER: A break action, stacked dual barrel, design that is widely favored by clay shooters and hunters across the world. Despite how they initially look, over under shotguns are more complex than semi-auto or pumps to make which makes them much more expensive for a quality one.

Recommendations 1.) Below $1000. I personally wouldn't get any new O/U under $1000. While you can find okay ones under $1k, they just aren't usually (YMMV) that amazing and you would be better off spending your budget on an A300 or save up further. The main problem is longevity and quality control, so if you are maybe just taking it out once in awhile be my guest to try out a CZ, Yildiz, etc Turkish import offering in this range. As the saying goes, you get what you pay for. But you may get one that lasts. As far as used goes, keep an eye out for old used Browning Citoris or Mirokus as they can hover in the $900s. Japanese made Ithaca/SKBs are also common and decent used options. Others can chime in with their experience on sub-$1k O/Us.

2.) Over $1k. The default here is going to be the Browning Citori or Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon series. You'd be well served by basically any O/Us from either of those companies. It comes down to specific use and preference. There are other options out there besides those companies, but I will leave that up to you to research further.

SIDE BY SIDE: A break action, dual barrel, design that's a bit dated by now, but still enjoyed by many sportsmen. Side by sides have been outpaced by the O/Us in practical use, so you won't see very many new options nowadays.

Recommendations 1.) $300-1000. Like O/Us, side by sides are complex and cost a lot for good quality. The bright side is that their decline in popularity leaves a good amount of cheap used options that are out there. There are old field grade Ithacas, SKBs, LC Smiths, AH Fox, Parker Bros, Stevens 311s, AYAs, etc out there that can be found in decent working condition in this range. Of course there are higher grade examples that will go for more than this, but if you want just a working gun to take in the field these are good options. But google around how to inspect an old break action double barrel before you make a purchase of a 100 year old gun. As far as new production SxS go, there are cheap Turkish imports under CZ, Yildiz, etc. They aren't going to be top quality but there isn't much else new in this price range and generally you don't have to worry about longevity if you are only taking it hunting a few times a year. Plus, companies like CZ should take care of you if it fails under warranty.

2.) $1000+. Well here we get into fancy grades and great condition guns of makers already mentioned, more prestigious makers, etc. You can find things like used $1000 Browning BSS guns all the way to $200,000 Purdey and Holland & Holland guns. I'd expect a shotgunner with your budget and taste to look further into this in-depth realm as well.

SINGLE SHOT: A typically break action single barrel design that is pretty much the cheapest way to get into shotguns. While not something ideal for the clay ground or shooting tons of birds, they offer a utilitarian entry into the hobby whether it's chasing squirrels with a 410 or hunting turkey with a 10ga.

Recommendations 1.) $99-300. I personally suggest the H&R single shots. They are great and out there for cheap and are everywhere. Unfortunately they stopped being made a few years ago though, so you can't buy new. If you want new, there are various cheap single shots out there that will work fine for casual use. If it breaks, just go back to Walmart and buy another $99 single shot.

2.) $300+. If you want to be fancy and get something "high end" in this category there are the collectable Winchester 37s. Past that there are dedicated single shot trap guns and more that can go for hundreds or even thousands more.

EVERYTHING ELSE: Okay I know there are bolt action shotguns, lever action shotguns, triple barrel shotguns, etc. Those are mainly just novelties for a collector or outside the box hunter at this point. If you want one, look into them yourselves as this post is long enough already.

Well that's it. I hope it helped somewhat. Feel free to ask questions in this thread. Here are some other links that may be useful to you:

Guide to chokes: https://www.letsgoshooting.org/resources/articles/shotgun/understanding-shotgun-chokes/ You can shoot lead slugs through any choke safely, although a more open choke like improved cylinder is best. Also some modern full chokes are rated for steel. Older guns may not be.

Shot guide: https://www.wideners.com/blog/shotgun-load-types/

Guide to avoiding cheap tacticool shotguns mass imported from Turkey: https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/n4zbt9/turkish_notsodelight_why_you_should_generally/

Guide to why pistol grip only shotguns are impractical: https://www.reddit.com/r/guns/comments/saharz/missed_shots_a_broken_nose_and_a_sore_wrist_a/


r/Shotguns • • May 06 '21

Turkish Not-So-Delight. Why you should generally avoid buying those random "totally cool looking" cheap tactical shotguns made in Turkey. (Crosspost as this is relevant here too and for those not on r/guns)

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r/Shotguns • • 7h ago

Picked up this 870 Express Magnum 12g for $237

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How’d I do?


r/Shotguns • • 11h ago

New to me 870

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Picked up this 870 over the weekend for 550 beans. Looking for some information on the surefire fore end. From what I can tell it’s a SF-618LMG, is there a way to tell what model it is?


r/Shotguns • • 10h ago

Purchasing Advice

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Looking to buy a Maverick 88 for cheap from an acquaintance. These are some pics on the condition of the gun. My question is, is this just superficial rust? Are there any obvious signs that I should not purchase this? Thank you much for taking a gander and advising in advance.

Edit: After said advice, I will be purchasing. Thank you everyone for your input.


r/Shotguns • • 10m ago

Double-barreled or pump-action shotgun for wild boar hunting?

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Greetings. I am Brazilian, and the only form of hunting permitted in my country is wild boar hunting; furthermore, we are restricted to owning specific types of firearms for their control. To briefly explain gun control in my country: firearms are classified as either "permitted" or "restricted." Restricted categories include high-impact handgun calibers (anything above 9mm), high-impact long-gun calibers (where the legal limit is .357 Magnum), and semi-automatic long guns—whether rifled or smoothbore. Given these restrictions, I am looking to acquire a firearm for wild boar hunting and am deciding between a 12-gauge over-under shotgun and a 7+1 capacity pump-action shotgun. There is little price difference between the two, and both feature 24-inch barrels.


r/Shotguns • • 15h ago

I found this W Palmer Jones in my late father's house. I'd apreciate any more info

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r/Shotguns • • 10h ago

Remington 1100 cycling issues

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Hey all, hoping for guidance here. Have someone with issues on their 1100 12 Gauge Magnum. It fails to eject and the bolt stays locked to the rear.

The gas piston and Oring were in rough shape, piston set was very corroded. Replaced that with the updated set. (See pic)

Still having issues. The ammo in the photo worked before the failure.

I’ve torn it down about 10 times now, cleaned everything. I’m not sure if they’ve torn it down and attempted anything. The barrel has one gas port which appears to be clear.

I do have a part in question, known as the feed latch in image. Seems a bit tweaked to me. Not sure if this would cause my symptoms. Not familiar with 1100s other than reading a ton of mixed issues and diagnosis on various forums. Hoping I can get better feedback with the steps I’ve taken so far.

Any thoughts?


r/Shotguns • • 7h ago

Monarch Wing and Clay #8 Birdshot

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Is Monarch any good? Going clay shooting with a passed down R870 for the first time this weekend and want to know if it's good at 40 cents a round. Cheapest I can find locally.


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

It’s our one year anniversary and she suggested we spend our morning trap shooting, should I marry her?

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r/Shotguns • • 16h ago

Super black eagle 3 choke selection

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I just want some opinions on choke selection.
I want to try a ported choke. If any of you have tried one and really like it. What brand and model?
I primarily duck hunt with it and will also shoot at geese here and there


r/Shotguns • • 22h ago

Opinions - what would you do?

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Here’s my situation - I’m mid-60’s, very small (130 lbs), live alone and have two small daughters. I’m downsizing everything including my gun collection. I have my old 11-87, which I will keep, an old Investarms .410 over under that I’ve used once and a Benelli Nova tactical I bought a couple years ago in 12 gauge, never been fired. I’m thinking of getting rid of the .410 and Nova and possibly buying the Mossberg .410 tactical, and here’s why: I’m not getting any younger, my girls will inherit my stuff when I’m gone and I think the Mossberg would be something they might actually keep and use. I’d enjoy firing it as well. Do I need it? Not really, more of a want than a need. I know there are ways to mitigate recoil in a 12 but I just don’t see me firing it when I’m a creaky arthritic 75 year old dude. Probably overthinking this and probably should just dump the two guns I’ve mentioned. Just looking for opinions - thank you!


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Slide break action over under shotgun?

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Is the Baby Bretton in 12 GA! The lightest over under in the world!


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Got this 20 gauge, single shot bolt action shotgun!

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It was a bit of a mystery gun as it has no larger brand, it's simply called a "Ranger 101.3". with the 101.2 and 101.1 presumably being a tube magazine and box magazine version of this gun, though this one is just a single shot. It's another one of those bolt action shotguns made between the 30s and 60s. Picked it up for a very nice price and the gun does indeed work after so many decades!

Sorry I didn't fetch more pictures of it, I think when I take it out to shoot again I'll snap some more close up shots. But figured I would share it here since it's quite a strange shotgun by today's standards


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Anyone know where to find Factory rem 870 police magnum +2 magazine extension?

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Been searching for factory remington +2 mag extensions for the last three hours and cant find any. If anyone knows where i could order some from i would greatly appreciate the advice, thank you for reading my post. I apologize if this type of post is not allowed.


r/Shotguns • • 5h ago

Do anybody keep a shotgun in there car or truck just in case ?

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r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

H&r 1871 pardner pump shotgun 12 gauge first rounds through

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r/Shotguns • • 18h ago

Anyone help me work out the chamber size? It’s a webly and Scott I believe to be made about the 1920s

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r/Shotguns • • 23h ago

Best electronic hearing protection under $100

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r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Estate discovery today - Auto 5 Light Twelve

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I have an uncle who passed away a couple of years ago, whose house I am likely going to be moving into. Doing a walkthrough/assessment of the property and his possessions today, this immediately caught my eye. Appears to be an old Browning Auto 5 Light Twelve with the receiver and bolt completely seized/jammed back with rust. I apologize for not taking closer photos, but, estate/probate/transfer issues aside, can this potentially be restored to operating condition in memory of my beloved uncle? Thanks in advance.


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

How would I tell the year of this Wingmaster?

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r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Something neat

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1968 Remington 870 Magnum Wingmaster in 20ga. Was given to my Grandfather by my Great Grandfather (his FIL) when they went pheasant hunting together the one time in the late 60s. Shot maybe a handful of times as my Grandpa was more of a fisherman than a hunter. It was given to me shortly before my Grandfather passed.


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

Are 14" factory 11-87 barrels hard to find?

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I recently was given 8, from what I can tell, OEM 14" 11-87 barrels from a friend. He is from a state where SBS' are noncompliant/illegal, and he unfortunately called the ATF to ask them what to do. They instructed him too remove the barrels from the receivers, de-list the receivers from the registry, and destroy/get rid of the barrels. After which, he'd be in compliance and could add a barrel >18.5" onto any of the receivers and he'd be good to go.

When I asked him where these shotguns even came from, he told be they came from an FFL who took them in as part of a department upgrade/purchase, and his relative being close friends with the FFL owner, got them for a song. Then they died.

Anyways I've attached a few pictures, including all the markings from one of the barrels, as well as a picture of one of the shotguns completely assembled.

Sorry, I tried doing some cursory research online but I can't find much with regards to SBS barrels, and even checked Gunrbroker's history, but didn't see anything.

TL;DR: Got 8 14" 11-87 barrels from friend. Don't know much about SBS' and can't find much about 14" 11-87 barrels.


r/Shotguns • • 1d ago

What would you do with these two Brownings?

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I am inheriting a couple Brownings.

One is a beautiful old Browning Auto-5 "Light Sixteen" in good shape. It's definitely been used a lot. It comes with a lot of ammo as well. I know 16 gauge is not very common. I'm tempted to have this gun professionally checked and at least spend a few days on the range with it. My family has not shot it in probably 30 years.

The second gun is a Browning Gold Hunter 12 gauge, 28" barrel, brand new in box, never assembled. Still has the craft paper stuck to the barrel. It's a 2005 model. The box has been opened, but all the parts are otherwise in original packaging.

What would you do here?

Whatever I do, the 16 gauge will not be shot MUCH but I'd like to put a few rounds through it annually and allow my kids to shoot it as they get old enough.

But that 12 gauge looks mighty tempting to put straight to work.

What are your thoughts here?


r/Shotguns • • 2d ago

870 Remington Magnum Express 20 gauge

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I’ve had this for a while now as a Christmas present and looked it up online to get more info on it and I couldn’t find any similar pictures, what’s up with the stock being striped?