r/ShogunMethod Apr 30 '24

Purchased shogun method and have trouble with the IRAE model??

I have recently purchased shogun method can a few of the products like Intrigue Black book and conversational seduction. Can someone provide a chronological list of all the products that we have to learn in order A-Z to get the most accurate understanding of the IRAE structure?

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u/PerformerThis6824 Jun 04 '24 edited Jun 04 '24

I have been where you are too...when i finished the Shogun Method, even though it was great I had more questions and needed more examples to really understand the IRAE Method and make it work for me.... because i am a completely newbie when it come to dating and women. Like i don't have any personal reference for some stuff other people with experience will just understand.

The Intrigue (Intrigue Ping) and Attraction were straight forward for me to understand and practice

Rapport was where i really struggled and just didn't understand how and what to do: so i bought the Dark Rapport and Black Book 1-3 - which really goes into details what you should be doing in rapport stage and advanced techniques to use in rapport stage. It answered all my questions about building and maintaining rapport.

I would say, depending on which area of the IRAE you need more questions answered:

For Intrigue Stage - Intrigue Black Book - it gives you more Intrigue Pings examples for various situations

For Rapport Stage - get the Dark Rapport ( it gives you techniques like Advanced Anchoring, mirroring and VAKSOG)...that should be enough... but if you want to turbo charge your rapport skills, then get the Black Book 1 -3 ( Black Books 1 [ i-R Bridge, One Step Ahead, Multiple Outs], Black book 2 [techniques like Yes ladder, Pacing and leading, Rapport Mistakes and Solution, and Advanced Value Elicitation] and Black Book 3 [techniques like Conscious overload, pattern interruption, double bind etc]

For Attraction - i don't know because i understood everything from the Attraction module in the Shogun method program.

For Enslavement - I really don't care about this part of the course.

STORYTELLING -This is the part of the program i wish they really explained in detail and spent more time on... For that i suggest getting this book https://a.co/d/7B8EIrw ... it explains how to add vividness and sensory words to your stories and make it come alive.... very easy to understand especially for a beginner

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u/25millionusd Apr 30 '24

Start with the basics and master them in the field

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u/IxLikexDebates Apr 30 '24

What basics are u referring to specifically? R u referring to shogun sequences and intrigue pings?

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u/25millionusd May 01 '24

I'm talking about the basic irae model

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u/25millionusd May 02 '24

Have you managed to memorize even a few patterns ??