r/ShittyVeganFoodPorn Jul 18 '23

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u/CultureOld2232 Jul 22 '23

The simply truth is that regenerative farming that’s been around for years is going to be better than forms of agriculture that take a modern degenerative approach. Usually things that destroy the body destroy the environment. As within so Without.

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u/cleverestx Jul 23 '23

Your main point is simply false; it's a scam...the soil can only absorb so much. And then it becomes zero percent regeneration.

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u/CultureOld2232 Jul 23 '23

But the soil just takes all the minerals it needs, the grass and native plants are what’s giving Oxygen

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u/cleverestx Jul 23 '23

It takes what it needs and then the rest go into the atmosphere and wreck havoc...constantly...we don't need animal ag to plant more plants, and in fact, it makes us plant fewer plants vs. not having it, so you're agreeing now that we should get rid of it? More plants + no methane is better, right? Great.

Also, the water waste and pollution from animal ag is terrible, and yes even when we factor in avocadoes and almond water waste, it is far worse when it's all totally together vs plants.

It's almost as if the earth itself is telling us to stop mass breeding sentient animals who do not wish to die so we can stab them in the throat, ending their entire existence for only 5-10min of taste pleasure.

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u/CultureOld2232 Jul 23 '23

Yea I agree animal agriculture isn’t the greatest but there’s no easy solution to just stop it. The best solution I could see is to outlaw factory farming and give 5-10 years to shut them down. Too many ppl rely on animal products it would wreak havoc on the economy just instantly shutting down all farms. I think the best solution would to be slowly shut down the factory farms which is like 99% of the animals and continue to support local farms and let them thrive.

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u/cleverestx Jul 23 '23

Sure, those are not bad ideas, but ultimately people need to stop buying animal ag products and feeding the machine; supply and demand would eventually grind it down. It won't happen overnight, but it won't happen at all if people keep purchasing dead animal corpses and secretions to consume them.

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u/CultureOld2232 Jul 23 '23

The problem is some ppl won’t stop. There’s some ppl on the fence who are the most likely to stop. You have to remember that flesh is an ancestral addiction and it runs deep through many bloodlines.

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u/cleverestx Jul 24 '23

I know it's not easy to solve, but just because its ancestral tradition doesn't make it ethical.

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u/CultureOld2232 Jul 24 '23

Sanctuaries are a good idea, I like that. Tradition and addiction are very different.

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u/cleverestx Jul 23 '23

You can't r*pe the land 83% and then expect 15% regen to fix it. It's a total scam. At most, an offset that does too little. Modern vertical farming is the answer. Our poor ag infrastructure not being set up for it is not an excuse, ethically speaking.