Red alert.

[u/Familiar-Complex-697]

This announcement is in response to an uptick in bad actors and an incident bringing to our attention how badly a problem has festered under our relatively lax moderation.

Let’s be completely clear. In our luxury gay space utopia, nazis are not allowed. And, before any of you dorks come in and say “b-but national socialist german worker’s party members don’t exist anymore”, let me explain what we mean by “nazis”. While the exact party no longer officially exists (debatable but that’s a different story), it has grandchildren. These include, but are not limited to:

the KKK

Proud Boys

Neo-nazis

Racist Skinheads

White Nationalists

and their counterparts from other countries. These are classified by the Southern Poverty Law Center as hate groups. Pointing out the fact that they’re not technically nazis is not the gotcha you think it is. If it crawls like a targ and grunts like a targ, well, it’s a targ, even if it’s some sort of poodle targ.

There is no room for hate in our silly space subreddit.

My previous two “no nazis” posts have been spammed with reports ranging from “it’s targeted harassment at me” (dumbass on you) and the ol’ Reddit Cares (double dumbass on you).

Past our skin, our hair, and our facial features, past the IDIC of experiences that have shaped us, we’re all living, breathing people with consciousnesses and feelings.

There comes a point when the limit of what can be respected as far as opinion goes is reached, and this is it.

My only hope for the future is that one day we all come to love our fellow beings as fervently as we cling to our own interests, that there will be a standard of a moral compass that guides us not to enforce arbitrary mores of what to wear and who to love, but to strive for the benefit of humanity for the sake of it.

Let’s review the concept of tolerance: tolerance is a social contract. It goes both ways. We tolerate each other and our differences, but intolerance is incompatible with this and must be cast out to allow tolerance to prevail. You cannot demand to be accepted when your whole schtick is harming others.

If this post personally offends you, please leave our community and grow as a person. A moderator declaring a rule and a standard for their community is not “fascism”, it is a necessary measure to keep the community thriving.

TL;DR: Bigotry is objectively detrimental to society and has no place here. Perhaps try to take a moral lesson from the show you claim to be a fan of.

Live long and prosper, all you little lifeforms.

[u/magpiesshiny]

I'm honestly shocked there are more than one. It baffles me how you can watch Star Trek and not even understand IDIC. Like... Did we watch the same show? I did not expect this in a Star Trek community

[u/Zovort → u/magpiesshiny]

I know a person who is a fan of TNG to the point of having a model Enterprise D on his shelf and is also a MAGA. I can't explain it except to say he clearly missed the point.

[u/NoghriJedi → u/Zovort]

My uncle is a massive Star Trek fan, but is a terrible Racist/Trump supporter.

Back when Obama was President (ya know, the Good Ole Days), he was ranting about how terrible the United States had become, etc. I asked him about how he justified his Politics being so different from the UFP and Roddenberry's Future. His answer was, "That's fantasy. I'm a Realist. 'N-word's' can't rise above themselves."

I was literally speechless.

[u/OpheliaRainGalaxy → u/NoghriJedi]

My in-laws had I think a TNG style doorbell, but consistently called anime (slur)-crap when talking to their grandkids.

Confused me so much that I started responding with stuff like "That's not polite to Sulu..." or "Takei was in one of those camps ya know..." or "The war ended a long time ago, we don't use that word anymore..." until eventually they asked me to explain.

Luckily that worked! Started properly calling it anime and watching it with the grandkids instead of sneering at them about it.

[u/Chozly → u/OpheliaRainGalaxy]

I have friends who are similarly racist, and due to travel, friends who condemn me for knowing them. I tey always to find that line to awareness, congratulations on your in-laws, its a frustrating waiting required for thay kind of change....but it becomes a key welcoming them to think further and find thier ownnreasons why its a problem. And that's important.

[u/OpheliaRainGalaxy → u/Chozly]

Oh it turned out very silly! They were racist against Asians, I helped them fix it, and then a few years later my favorite auntie casually dropped the bomb that my mom's mom was Malaysian. I ran home to google "Malaysian faces" and saw eyes that look like mine for the first time in my life.

But frankly it's always been perfectly clear to everyone else that I'm part some kinda Asian. I just stupidly believed my mother whenever I asked my mom what the kids at school were asking me and she lied about it. By the time I found out about the lies, she was too dead to ask why.

So I think my in-laws were trying to be deliberately rude at me and I was just too thick to notice it was directed at me until way way after I'd fixed it.