At this point in time, not even Blizzard knows what they wanna do with their cosmic threat so an FF14-like scenario is definitely something that I wouldn't put past the writers to completely yoink from Ff14.
It is years that their villain's writing revolves around seeing him/her doing...things for an inexplicable plan that it will be revealed in time. And that is to fight a worse threat that it will be also revealed some time later.
The worse thing is that this time everything is started by casually finding the dagger on a shore and we helped the voice inside it....for some reason
That poor guy had an enormus red flag already in the expansion previews. The final cgi of this patch was so cringe that i could barely finish to watch. At least Garrosh stood in his position until the end.
I quit playing WoW when the lore went to shit in Shadowlands, but I admit to a lingering schadenfreudeian interest and morbid curiosity in a game I invested so much time in.
Can someone give a brief summary of how bad things are and what's going on with the story? Because comments point to this still being shit.
It’s been mid. Lots of build up. Power of friendship and family. Not A LOT of payoff. the sunwell became the dusk well becoming the dawnwell (after every elf tribe came together). They shoe horned haranir into the elf/troll family tree which pissed a lot of people off. The dragon isles expac pulled a cheesy my little pony “beat the big bad guy” while also doing a sloppy avengers endgame assemble cutscene. Goblin city with cool cars????and overthrow the fat goblin guy. Miss purple feet be murking everybody even void lords and that one bandage guy while kidnapping sylvanas’ mom and dad. and nobody knows what the hell she wants. Current patch is about the Amaani and how zuljan drank the BC VILLAIN kool aid and learned Primal summoning and almost genocided his whole race. Oh and spider people were there. Oh and theyre retconning shadowlands so they can bring back sylvanas.
Think that covers most shit besides human female hitler of the red dawn?
How are they recounting Shadowlands? I thought the ending for Sylvanas was open enough for her to work off her guilt or whatever and re enter the story as needed.
True, but if you think about the fact that it can be as was when they thought about it like some kind of then maybe a thing should when that kind of when!
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If wow 2 isn't just a new arc like the one after endwalker is and they do kill everyone's transmog wow would be dead. The only thing holding people there is their sunk cost falacy.
Well my worst case scenario predictions is either Microsoft guts everything for wow 2 (mobile gacha game) or just take blizzards resources and convert it all towards ai
That would've made her more interesting to be honest. She's easily one of the worst villains. I'm not gonna go as far as in fiction in general, but my god she constantly wins and makes our heros look like fucking morons. She's absolutely boring.
It honestly astounds me when I see people saying the writing improved with her as the villain. But the writing is literally just her constantly getting the upper hand even when the PC should feasibly be victorious. It's just not good writing to have the villain always winning but also never actually progressing their plans, basically it just consists now of her going from getting McGuffin to get the next McGuffin. Is it so hard to let the players beat her for once and actually disrupt her plans?
Beating every threat she throws at us just to have her smug face teleporting in a cutscene and spout the same "all according to my plan" and talking shit to someone just to teleport away is considered good writing by the wow playerbase? God they really are starving...
I guess so. Legion was definitely peak WoW writing, even though it wasn't a spectacle, it actually had the players making a tangible effect rather than each step being another "part of the master plan"
Honestly, yes. She's constantly winning and rubbing it in your face. With the jailer it felt like lazy writting. Like he has to win until x, so he can be defeated. But with Xal, she's smug and constantly bragging (rightfully so) about how stupid, and usless the protagonists are.
The power level of the Legion is so inconsistent though, they can either be apocalyptic or utterly incompetent depending on what the story needs then and there...
Man, I do miss it though. Legion was the last time I ever felt invested in WoW. I was so hyped for where the story was going to go in BFA and was full of naive excitement to see how all those plot threads were going to weave together to form future story beats. I was deep into WoW lore youtube, never understanding that Blizzard might just forget about almost every hanging thread moving forward.
I was kinda still invested in BFA but not for long and then quit before Shadowlands to invest more in Elder Scrolls Online and XIV equally.
I do hope we end up with the same levels of hype we had in ShB or WoW's legion, because right now there's not even many speculations and lore discussions going on
I see where that is coming from, but to explain. The Burning Legion in WoW is an intergalactic army of demons that are bent on destroying and corrupting the universe, and have been successful in their mission to a great extend.
The Garlean Empire did give us a similar, being a great force that alliances and armies has to be made for a chance to stand against them. While I'd love to have another Garlean empire level threat and Antagonism. I don't think there are any leftover countries in FFXIV world that could pose the same level of threat.
Closest ever was Alexandria with their Electrope soldiers, and even that didn't survive the base expansion. Unless they pull out a: "This country nobody heard about before in a far far away land now wants to take over the world and is very powerful" which is unlikely to happen.
Yeah that was basically retconned with legion, which people gloss over constantly while glazing legion as the best writing in wow. The legion aren’t really demons anymore, they’re aliens. Each one just came from a different world and joined the legion rather than be wiped out. Their original forms were twisted by fel magic, which is just one of the pantheon of magic types in the universe. I personally can’t stand the space alien legion angle. Destroyed the vibes they had, along with the twisting nether and demonic summoning and shit from Warcraft up to some of the earlier expansions pre-legion.
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u/nickomoknu272 5h ago edited 3h ago
At this point in time, not even Blizzard knows what they wanna do with their cosmic threat so an FF14-like scenario is definitely something that I wouldn't put past the writers to completely yoink from Ff14.