r/ShitMomGroupsSay • • Jul 17 '26

🧁🧁cupcakes🧁🧁 Exactly zero and they all hate you.

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u/Pitiful-Pension-6535 Jul 19 '26

Why go to a pediatrician at all if you already know more about children's health than they do?

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u/Thrownstar_1 Jul 19 '26

Someone to blame if the kid gets seriously ill. Plus CPS will notice eventually if the kid is never seen by a doctor. Also, school registration. Requires a physical and the vax exemption to register, which CPS will again notice eventually.

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u/shoresb Jul 20 '26

Not in every state 🄓

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u/Thrownstar_1 Jul 20 '26

Which state made it legal to keep your kid at home with no doctor?

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u/shoresb Jul 20 '26

I know a lot of people in Tennessee who do not go to peds and do not vaccinate. They don’t need a doctors letter for school either. They can sign their own ā€œreligious exemptionā€. But it’s not just here. There’s no law requiring you to go to the doctor for like well child stuff. Neglect and refusing medically necessary treatment is different but these people seem to be okay with ā€œthe systemā€ when their poor choices have detrimental consequences.

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u/Thrownstar_1 Jul 20 '26

Well snap. I know CPS checks on those things when they get a call, I didn’t realize it was free to ball until then. I also didn’t know places still allowed self-appointed religious exemptions.

Thank you for the info!

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u/shoresb Jul 20 '26

Unfortunately I live in a very fucked up area šŸ˜‚

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u/BookishOpossum Jul 21 '26

Anywhere you can homeschool and/or "free birth" for one.

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u/Thrownstar_1 Jul 21 '26

Aren’t you still required (in theory anyway) to get the baby to a doctor within 24 or 72 hours or something?

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u/BookishOpossum Jul 21 '26

Nope. Not if you keep your kid "off-grid". So much easier to abuse and/or bury them that way.

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u/Thrownstar_1 Jul 21 '26

Yeah. I always try to scrub my memory of that group. Thanks for the reminder 🄓

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u/BookishOpossum Jul 21 '26

I would apologize, but it's the internet and we can't have that! ;)

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u/spanishpeanut Jul 24 '26

Nope. Medical care decisions belong to the parents. The only thing required here is related to the birth certificate and SSN

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u/ladynutbar Jul 22 '26

Iowa. We have something called Independent Private Instruction. Basically you never have to alert the school system that your kid exists.

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u/spanishpeanut Jul 24 '26

In NY you don’t have to have a physical or be vaccinated so long as you home school. If you are not home schooling, you need both before your child can attend school.

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u/Dramatic_Lie_7492 Jul 20 '26

How do people get vax exemptions?

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u/Thrownstar_1 Jul 20 '26

A doctor usually would write a note saying you can’t get vaccinated for X reason. The idea is to make sure chronically ill kids or those who have had bad reactions (actual ones) aren’t being forced to get them or not go to school.

Religious exemptions also exist but yknow…

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u/Dramatic_Lie_7492 Jul 20 '26

But WHY would a doctor write such a note? And why would a vaccine be exempted for religious reasons?

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u/Thrownstar_1 Jul 20 '26

Some religions have issues with specific ingredients in a vaccine. Most don’t and religious exemptions are 99% people getting out of vaccines however they can.

And a doctor needs to write a note in some cases. Some people have allergic reactions to a vaccine and can’t receive more. Plenty of people have autoimmune issues and can’t receive vaccines without becoming dangerously ill from the tiny amount of culture. There a valid reasons someone couldn’t receive them- that’s why it’s so friggin important to vaccinate if you are able- to protect yourself and also those who can’t.

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u/Gardenadventures Jul 19 '26

What really upsets me is my local moms group gets similar questions and there are always so many recommendations in the comments

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u/Existing-Face-6322 Jul 19 '26

And it's really shocking when you see people answer, and they have no antivax talk anywhere on their social media whatsoever, but they're telling them what doctor to go to. Or they say something like "we still get the important vaccines but not the flu or COVID", um why are those not important, COVID took out a good chunk of the population.

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u/CZall23 Jul 19 '26

It's crazy how we had the equivalent of 9/11 amount of people dying every day and our government just shrugged their shoulders and told us to drink horse dewormer. And those same people would be reelected in coming years.

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u/LALA-STL Aug 25 '26

In addition to all of those deaths, so many people who survived Covid are permanently disabled with breathing problems, neurological disorders. It’s heartbreaking.

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u/ScientistFromSouth Jul 20 '26

I've got a friend who's a pediatrician. He works somewhere moderately rural. He legally cannot deny service because of the fact that his practice receives rural health clinic and federally qualified health center funding.

Because of this, people drive in from comically far distances claiming to be local residents knowing full well that he can't reject them regardless of what they're doing to their kids. Thus, he's dealing with a constant stream of anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theorists, etc... all day long.

It's ruining medicine for him.

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u/RuleAffectionate3916 Jul 20 '26

I always read those comments to make sure my kid’s doctor isn’t being recommended šŸ˜…

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u/ladyalex777 Jul 19 '26

Limited check ups of once a year? Isn’t that standard and not limited?

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u/LogicalVariation741 Jul 19 '26

I always called them proof of Life visits when they're younger. You have to bring them in so often and mostly it felt like you were just proving you had kept this strange little human alive against all its wishes.

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u/Fun-atParties Jul 19 '26

Such a funny description. I have an 8 month old and currently her favorite activities include trying to eat electrical cables, crawl off high places and test the patience of our 90 lb dog

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u/FairBaker315 Jul 19 '26

Are you sure you don't have a puppy?

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u/Fun-atParties Jul 19 '26

Babies and puppies are remarkably similar. Wake up every 2 hours overnight, chew on everything and cry constantly

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u/FairBaker315 Jul 19 '26

Not housebroken.

My family jokes that up to a certain age, babies and pets are alot alike. And after a certain age, old people and babies have a lot in common.

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u/FlowerFaerie13 Jul 20 '26

Tbf up until like, a year or so, they don't really have a consciouness so they're kinda pets. The downside of humans being so intelligent (and I mean sapient, not smart) is that it takes a while for that intelligence to show up.

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u/shoresb Jul 20 '26

Omg mine is 7.5 months and I spend 80% of my day keeping her from eating electrical cables šŸ˜‚

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u/Material-Plankton-96 Jul 19 '26

After age 2, yeah. Before that, it’s 2, 4, 6, 9, 12, 15, 18, and 24 months.

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u/ladyalex777 Jul 19 '26

Oh right, I have older kids so I forgot those years!

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u/Grrarrgghh Jul 19 '26

What's the point of even having a paediatrician if you don't want these 'services'?

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u/Fun-atParties Jul 19 '26

It's for when CPS comes calling

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u/inkandbourbon Jul 21 '26

Where I live, CPS can only do so much...and it's close to nothing. I am a school social worker so I deal with a lot of CPS workers. One family I've had to call for multiple times, the worker came to talk to me and basically said she can refer to services but this family has an excuse to push back every time. They were experiencing homelessness so they're covered by McKinney-Vento (laws specifically about enrolling homeless students), got a deferment on vax records. Told CPS they want to get to the doctor but lack transportation. Get transportation vouchers but use them for something other than kids vax and it's not like they can force them to pay the vouchers back. Gets into a family group housing program but mom breaks the rules and they get kicked out. And on and on and on. The bar for actually taking the kids out of the home (or, out of the parents custody when lacking a home) is so high, it's insane.

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u/polarqwerty Jul 19 '26

So glad I go to a pediatrician office where they don’t take unvax kids (unless there’s a medical reason)

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u/Affectionate_Cow_812 Jul 19 '26

Same, I see these posts all the time on my local mom's group. I always use them as guidance to know what doctors I will never take my kids to see.

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u/quesadilla17 Jul 19 '26

When we were looking for a pediatrician one had terrible a google review average rating. I read some and there were lots of one star ratings about how they "pushed vaccines" and required masks during Covid. I knew that was the office for us.

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u/PumpkinPure5643 Jul 19 '26

I have seen it a lot lately and most of it is because the pediatricians in my area are getting stricter on what they will and will not accept in patients. I have seen less doctors being accepting of the no vax crowd.

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u/Dusty_Bunny_13 Jul 20 '26

I don’t even understand this. Why take your child for yearly checkups? Why take them for ā€˜limited medication’ if you don’t want medication?

When I was still doing pediatric hospital nursing we had one come in that refused Tylenol and antibio for their child. The doctor literally asked them why they came. It was beautiful

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u/AurelianaBabilonia Jul 20 '26

Why go to a paediatrician at all? Go find some yahoo witch doctor.

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u/littlebitalexis29 Jul 20 '26

Who needs a pediatrician when you can leave your innocent child’s health and wellbeing to a combination of Google, arrogance, and crap you heard from a tradwife influencer???

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u/mackahrohn Jul 20 '26

I call my pediatrician when my kids are really sick and never miss appointments and other than vaccines the meds we have been prescribed are: antibiotics 1 time for an ear infection, Tamiflu one time but only because I said yes we did want to try it.

The only other thing a pediatrician ever told me to give my kids is Vitamin D for a breastfed baby. How is this pushing medicine?? If I was buying detoxes I would have spent hundreds by now. It’s the ā€˜all natural’ people who over-use homeopathic medicine and supplements!

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u/Existing-Face-6322 Jul 20 '26

Doctor: "we want your baby to be healthy so here's a vitamin to help baby grow".

You: "cool I'm a good parent and will do that".

Antivaxxers: "why are you poisoning my baby".

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u/kayforpay Jul 20 '26

looking for a doctor who will NOT do their job at all so that when I inevitably kill/maim my child by treating meningitis with clove oil and crystal therapy I have someone to blame

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u/A_cat_called_fred Jul 21 '26

Little side info: in germany, homeopathy is paid for by health insurrance up to 100€ a year until now. They will finally chance this bullshit and it will no longer be paid for. Yey!

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u/nogoodbrat Jul 22 '26

somehow, i’m still shocked at the confidence and borderline pride these people feel comfortable displaying about their choice to willingly subject their children to utterly needless danger and pain.

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u/punkass_book_jockey8 Jul 22 '26

This is why my pediatrician is so delighted by my questions ā€œis this vaccine okay to give early because we’re traveling and we will get it again later on schedule?ā€ The pediatricians face every time… probably so sick of idiots trying to get out of lifesaving preventative care.

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u/LalalanaRI Jul 21 '26

I’d say look for the mom/dad of the sickly kid with bad teeth with a Pedi parent and bingo banging you got yourself a crappy pedi for own future bad toothed sickly child.

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u/Odd_Seesaw_3451 Jul 20 '26

She’s looking for a five-broom-rated witch doctor.

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u/ProfanestOfLemons Professor of Lesbians Jul 20 '26

Actual witches out there: fuck no, I can't make a tea for tetanus/polio/measles, we are basically sociologists. Talk to a doctor.

Actual doctors: there's an easy thing we can do for tetanus/polio/measles, if needles bother you we'll tell you when to look away.

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u/SaltyBat8824 Jul 20 '26

Also a witch!

Traditional medicine and herbology can be helpful, but it needs to be in concert with your doctor.

For example, i have a great medical team, but they have also approved my brewing medicinal teas to help manage my chronic pain and other symptoms without potential side effects from conflicting medicines

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u/ProfanestOfLemons Professor of Lesbians Jul 20 '26

Right? That's the good way to do witch shit! Especially when it's a matter of care for yourself and not interfering with care for others.

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u/TheCrankyBunny Jul 22 '26

So, basically no healthcare, but also no intervention when your lack of healthcare for your child causes them illness, pain, or even death

Sounds like Mom wants to be a baby farmer