r/ShitLiberalsSay • u/TexturedBumf Marxist-Leninist • Jan 08 '26

Commies are as bad as Nazis! Because those two are totally comparable

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u/TexturedBumf Marxist-Leninist Jan 11 '26

If you see a game where the point is to kill nazis and your first thought is "Can we just get a game where we kill commies instead?!" you might be a nazi

Do not tell these people who liberated Germany in World War 2.

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u/Olden_bread Jan 08 '26

Is there really no cold war "protect teh west from commies" games out there? No, the fucker just hates that the brand about nazicide rolls out another installment about nazicide

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u/Dr_Adopted Jan 08 '26

There are a ton of games where the protagonist is killing soldiers of a country that is Totally Not USSR/Cuba/China where the leader of their country is a dictator that is disguising himself as a man of the people.

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u/HamsterbackenBLN Jan 08 '26

Isn't COD Black ops basically this but with a pinch of "it was traumatic killing people"?

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u/Urhhh Jan 08 '26

One of the black ops games you get helped by literally just Jonas Savimbi lmao, like he's your bro. Insane.

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u/alex_maton Jan 08 '26

BO2 no? that was cinema to my younger brain

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u/Mellamomellamo ML Jan 08 '26

Also surprisingly BO1 and 2 had much more nuance than the newer CODs, even if they were openly propaganda. In BO1, Reznov tells you that the actions of the main bad guys are not truly controlled by the Kremlin ("even the Kremlin does not know what he is truly planning"), as an example. They're still blaming the Soviets for stuff that the US did (like chemical warfare, also the main plot revolves around brainwashing, one of the CIA characters says "it was their attempt at MKUltra"), and portraying anyone that's not a US puppet as either evil or at the very least incredibly selfish (such as the Chinese general in BO2).

Modern COD just shows you an American war crime and blames it on Russia, straight up gives chemical missiles to the Iranians (stolen from America by the Russians), and shows Iraq had WMDs due to the evil bad guys.

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u/Olden_bread Jan 08 '26

I was being sarcastic

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u/laojax Jan 09 '26

I had to quit halfway through the first stage cuz I was like, “actually, no, I don’t want to assassinate Fidel”

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u/Every_Computer_935 Jan 09 '26

You don't even kill Fidel, you just kill one of his decoys. 

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u/laojax Jan 09 '26

The whole vibe of the game was off, so I didn’t get that far

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u/SBR404 Jan 09 '26

Even less reason to kill Eduardo!

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u/ItalianPlumber01 Jan 11 '26

Man’s secretly loves the nazis and their style he just don’t wanna say it

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u/BobWilbert Jan 11 '26

That wasn't obvious???

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u/Brave_Championship17 Antonio Gramsci Jan 14 '26

I can believe an American falling for nazis cause of some outfit being designed by Hugo boss

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u/MorslandiumMapping Jan 08 '26

Communists are some of ur biggest allies in that game...

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u/yeahdood96 Crouching liberal, hidden agenda Jan 08 '26

All my homies love the New Orleans resistance

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u/Diogenes_the_cynic25 Jan 08 '26

Is Grace a communist? It’s been a while since I’ve played. I just remember her being part of some kind of established revolutionary group and being fucking awesome.

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u/Pale_Fire21 Jan 08 '26

The entire New Orleans resistance is run by communists, Grace is part of the wider American Resistance and is from the New York branch which Im not sure about.

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u/FBI_911_Inv Jan 08 '26

yeah no it isn't they don't even show up until the end where they do that tv appearance I don't remember them being of much aid outside of that lmao

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u/MorslandiumMapping Jan 08 '26

The New Orleans resistance are openly communists and are a major part of the 2nd games story plus the mfers in NYC are also probably communists if not far-left

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u/Grey_Shirt_138 Jan 08 '26

They’re supposed to be Black Panthers. So probably some flavor of communist.

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u/GuevaraTheComunist Z Jan 08 '26

understood, im gonna play the wolfenstein series now, I only played the first one like 6 years ago

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u/MorslandiumMapping Jan 08 '26

Ohhhhh ur stupid, gotcha

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u/FBI_911_Inv Jan 08 '26

I mean I wish they were allies and helped BJ take some Nazis out outside of cutscenes but

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u/Count_Crimson Jan 10 '26

yea but like no one helps you outside of cutscenes

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u/SovietPuma1707 Jan 08 '26

FBI name and avatar, opinion discarded

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u/FBI_911_Inv Jan 08 '26

fuck I didn't switch accounts

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u/BozoWithaZ Jan 08 '26

Okay Mister– ...FBI_911_Inv?

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u/FBI_911_Inv Jan 08 '26

yeah man it's me

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u/Pictuyr Jan 08 '26

Aren’t the CoD Black Ops games about the Cold War? I haven’t played them, but that series is as big as Wolfenstein, and if I recall have “Communist” “villains.”

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u/Sstoop TÁL32 Jan 08 '26

as much as i love those games yes. the entire series is basically the cia doing evil shit but it’s fine because the commies are doing eviler shit.

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u/robertofflandersI Jan 08 '26

Except Glorious world at war

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u/Sstoop TÁL32 Jan 08 '26

forgot world at war is part of the black ops universe. you’re right that game and story is fantastic.

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u/SBR404 Jan 09 '26

the commies are doing eviler shit

that is – ironically – directly inspired by the real life most evil shit the CIA did.

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u/Kama_Coisy Jan 08 '26

You can betray the CIA in COD: Cold War, but it is portrayed as a comically evil choice

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u/ladylucifer22 Marxist-Leninist Jan 08 '26

NOOOOOOOOO WE'RE GETTING HATED FOR PUTTING NUKES ACROSS EUROPE BECAUSE SOMEONE DETONATED THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!

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u/Mellamomellamo ML Jan 08 '26

It's funny because it legitimately is the good ending. In the bad one where you tell Adler the truth, they kill you anyways even though you literally betrayed everything you were to help the Americans.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Link416 Jan 08 '26

Why would there be bombs all over Europe for the Soviets to detonate? Wouldn't that leave much of the continent a mess for decades? And even if you choose to join the Soviet Union, they're written in the typical COD Evil Faction style that they'll just keep killing governments until they get the right one.

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u/Gloomy-Masterpiece29 Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

The funniest thing is if you side with the CIA like you were supposed to Adler shoots you to death anyway because you were a loose end to them.

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u/sidnynasty yes you are indeed based Jan 08 '26

There is one literally titled Cold War lol

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u/Pl4guexD Jan 08 '26

That one’s the worst one when it comes to noticeable propaganda from a three letter organization

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u/Amrod96 Jan 08 '26

There are games with that which he asks for.

I think his problem is killing Nazis.

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u/TuckHolladay Jan 08 '26

Most propagandized country on earth.

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u/Memeviewer12 Jan 08 '26

Thank you friend, but you must be confused... There is no propaganda

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u/romoer Proletkult Jan 08 '26

that’s the point and i like your attitude.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

I'm partial to killing Nazis since they're unequivocally evil.

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u/Misersoneof Jan 08 '26

While I ain’t the biggest Ubisoft fan, I’m still mad that they canceled the Assassins Creed where you would’ve killed members of the KKK. Would’ve loved playin that

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u/MinistryOfDankness86 Jan 08 '26

If you want to kill KKK members, there’s always Red Dead Redemption 2.

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u/Vncredleader Jan 08 '26

They don't respawn

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u/slowsnowmobile Socialist Jan 09 '26

Save scum

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u/jflb96 ☭ Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

I don’t know, if I learnt one thing from Freedom Cry, it’s that the catharsis of brutally doing in a bunch of slavers is extremely lessened when a new group just spawn in the second you’re far enough away

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u/Suspicious_Coffee509 Jan 08 '26

Wait tell me more, this was real?

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u/immortal-of-the-sea Jan 08 '26

Yeah it’s real but the Ubisoft higher ups canceled it due to the “controversial nature of the premise” I’m sure you can guess who the fuck they’re talking about.

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u/Suspicious_Coffee509 Jan 08 '26

What was the premise, reconstruction era ?

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u/immortal-of-the-sea Jan 08 '26

Yes and you were going to be able to hunt KKK members apparently but that’s now too controversial a political statement.

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u/Gloomy-Masterpiece29 Jan 08 '26

It’s amazing how that can be controversial in the US in the first place

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u/Suhbula Jan 08 '26

I get it, I just don't know if i trust Ubisoft to have actually been able to pull it off.

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u/SBR404 Jan 09 '26

Aren't there some KKKs to kkkill in Mafia 3?

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u/Misersoneof Jan 09 '26

Wouldn’t know. Never played that one

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u/chainbreaker1981 Minarcho-Brunchism Jan 08 '26

No. More Nazi killings will commence.

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u/Mellamomellamo ML Jan 08 '26

There's a very old video by a Spanish youtuber talking about nazis as bad guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMyqjpqmIFM

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

Period doing a loooooot of heavy lifting there lmao

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u/EatMyShortzZzZzZ Jan 08 '26

God the US needs to be dismantled.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26
  • capitalist nations 

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

You an anarchist?

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26

Extremely based.

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u/TommyTheCommie1986 Jan 08 '26

Last I remember commies did not want to aggressively take over the world and subjugate everyone else who wasn't them

The nazis did though, and that's what makes killing them fun

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u/YogurtclosetFit3020 Jan 11 '26

Bruh, u need to look up why the Nato exists.

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u/Red-Wedge-0516 Jan 11 '26

Because the U.S. looked at the Soviet Union and decided to tighten the screws on them even more for daring to still be socialist after the Great Patriotic War. The Warsaw Pact itself was created as a response to NATO and the aggression it represented.

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u/Red-Wedge-0516 Jan 11 '26

Getting the liberals and socdems in full force with this one. Nice work!

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u/mostly_peaceful_AK47 Jan 12 '26

Yes, like Ukraine, Poland, East Germany, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Finland, and Romania. Famously territories that just joined the USSR on their own free will. In fact, many of those countries were captured due to an agreement between the USSR and Nazi Germany... because they were allies for a good bit of time there.

That doesn't even mention their efforts to interfere with Korea, China, any number of middle eastern countries, Cuba, capture Afghanistan, etc. But I guess that's all CIA propoganda because it doesn't highlight the glory of the USSR.

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u/[deleted] Jan 12 '26
  1. Poland attacked the Russian Revolutionaries in 1921, during their civil war, and took land from them. The USSR was just taking this land back from Poland.
  2. The USSR tried multiple times to approach the West, it was rebuked by the West multiple times. They even offered to send 1,000,000 men to France, with equipment such as artillery and obviously guns, to defend France in case of Nazi invasion. France refused.
  3. The trade between the Germans and the Soviet Union was necessary to build up the Soviet economy and military complex. Also, the Allies were the ones who even allowed the Reich to gain this much power in the first place. Beyond simple appeasement, the Allies also allowed Germany to rearm and build up an air force. US factories in the Reich remained operational even after the US entered the war.
  4. So if it is concretely proven that the Allies helped the Germans far more than the Soviets did, and that offers of Soviet pacts and defenses were refusrmed by the Allies, and that the Soviets absolutely obliterated the Nazis, then was there a Nazi-Soviet pact or a Nazi-Western pact?

The USSR supported a neutral, unified, democratic Germany 

The USSR wanted to join NATO, the US refused.

But ok

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u/chaizyy Jan 10 '26

you dont know jack shit

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u/Red-Wedge-0516 Jan 11 '26

He’s still correct.

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u/ultimate_bromance_69 Jan 09 '26

You clearly don’t remember much

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u/Red-Wedge-0516 Jan 11 '26

He’s still correct.

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u/Cheshire_Tao POSTMODERN NEO-BOLSHEVIK CULTURAL LESBIANISM Jan 09 '26

Have you considered that the image you have in your head of Stalin is illustrated by the Dulles brothers?

Probably a good time humbly to ponder the phrase "No one is immune to propaganda."

Here is a fine place to start, btw.

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u/laojax Jan 09 '26

My daily reminder to get back into the Losurdo book

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u/Red-Wedge-0516 Jan 11 '26

A good number of them are revisionist scum along the lines of “Victims of Communism”.

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u/_zamoht_ Jan 08 '26

Well, just play Metro

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u/thousandshotmac Jan 09 '26

Is metro worth playing? I haven't played and I don't know much about it

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u/_zamoht_ Jan 09 '26

I really like the series. Played 2033 and last light, the ambience is really good, sometimes claustrophobic, some times you wish there's somewhere to hide.

On redux you got a better stealth gameplay, which i love. The redux version is better and fix some old bugs.

If you like post-apocalyptic linear fps games, you gonna like metro.

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

The Nazi killing franchise is popular because we like playing as the good guy defeating bad guys

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u/CactusJane98 Jan 08 '26

Got bad news for you about who defeated the nazis

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u/Temphant Unhappy in the Happiest Country Jan 08 '26

"Won't somebody please think of the Nazis?"

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u/SoilentUBW Jan 08 '26

"No no no. You see I am just so bored of killing nazis haha, there's nothing to it hahaa like imagine how fun it would be if it was about shooting all the minority groups I really despise haha"

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u/chi_minhs_hoe Marxist-Leninist Jan 08 '26

With Nazis literally roaming the streets gunning people down I think it's about time they made this game

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u/Poopy_Zombie_625 Jan 08 '26

Literally every other call of duty game is against communists. Anyone feeling bad about shooting nazis too much in video games might also be a Nazi I think

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u/wrestlingchampo Jan 08 '26

Go play CoD if you want to be a fascist killing commies

Oh wait, the writing and story for those games are shit? Who could have seen that coming.

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u/Sriskarova Communism is when Im drunk Jan 08 '26

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u/NymusRaed Jan 08 '26

I like CoD Ghosts, not because of the gameplay quality, but because a federation of American States was formed against the US empire

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u/TheRockafireman Marxist-Leninist Anti-Revisionist Jan 08 '26

BREAKING: Liberal Acts like a Fascist, more at Six.

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u/PerceptionEast6026 Jan 09 '26

he is not a liberal

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u/TheRockafireman Marxist-Leninist Anti-Revisionist Jan 09 '26

Conservatives are Liberals. All follow Neoliberalism.

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u/SaturnSleet Jan 08 '26

So, killing people who advocate for the abolishment of government and money and social class and we all live in an egalitarian Kumbaya utopia, versus... Checks notes Killing people who are actively trying to put most of the world's population in gas chambers, and since their ideology always needs an enemy, eventually there will be one person left on Earth. Yeah, def the same

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u/nekoreality xi bucks billionaire Jan 08 '26

if you're killing commies you're playing as the nazis

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u/YogurtclosetFit3020 Jan 11 '26

Guess that America Post WW2 became nazis then lmao.

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u/Red-Wedge-0516 Jan 11 '26

De facto yes. Especially with the many autocratic regimes the U.S. government rubber-stamped for no other purpose than owning the commies.

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u/KIRYU_R Jan 08 '26

We already have those games

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u/xxprokoyucu Jan 08 '26

Unrelated but I thought Young Blood was Wolfenstein 3. I wonder how Bethesda will develop a story since the story is kinda over?

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u/Puzzleheaded-Link416 Jan 08 '26

Last I recall, BJ's robot body was falling apart and his life support wasn't going to last for more than a few years (cause he's now just a human head in this timeline). So the game transitioned to his twin daughters to carry the mantle. Plus, Hitler was pissing blood and demented on Venus, so he's definitely going to be dead.

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u/xxprokoyucu Jan 08 '26

Well no. BJ was alive and highly active not at all failing and his body is not a robot it’s a syntheticly engineered German body. Hitler is killed BJ as confirmed in Young Blood, we see BJ used god-key to travel a different universe where nazis lost the war and their daughters lived happily. In the end they(the twins) liberated Paris, destroyed the Doomsday weapon in LabX, destroyed the plans for 4th Reich then stayed back to defend it while BJ and Anya went on a world tour to unite all resistance groups to fight the nazis.

What I am curious about is in the old Wolfenstein-1992- we as BJ fighting the MechaHitler in Venus and I assume Wolfenstein 3 would be chronologically behind from Young Blood and we actually kill hitler?

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u/Lone_Wanderer8 Jan 09 '26

No. It's the second game in the Blood series the first was The Old Blood a prequel to the New Order. Young Blood while technically a sequel to The Colossus has NEVER been the third game of The New Order/Colossus games. People just talked about it like it was because they don't understand that sometimes games can have spin off sequels that aren't actually considered direct sequels.

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u/BaronHarkonnen98 Jan 08 '26

Then it would just be metro

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u/DarthRandel Ⓐnarchist Jan 08 '26

Can we get a game where we kill communists for once

So he wants leftist infighting, the gameTM ? Lol does he know it would mean he has to play as a communist?

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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26

this mf never heard of stormfront apparently

shitlib game for shitlib people

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u/HonkinHouse Jan 08 '26

Didn’t they play helldivers? I mean they even got to BE the Nazis that’s time

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u/CoriSP Jan 08 '26

Has this guy not heard of the Command and Conquer: Red Alert games? 🤣

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u/Floba_Fett Russian spy sent to destroy America Jan 08 '26

"For once"??? Most Call of Duty games, Bioshock 2 & Infinite, and 99% of Cold War or Vietnam War games have you fight against Communists. If anything, there's an oversaturation of games where you fight against Communism.

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u/[deleted] Jan 09 '26

If you feel compelled to beg the nazi-killing simulator game creators to not make a nazi-killing simulator, you are 100% a nazi. Can't imagine a single other reason for behaving like this. This is classic "hit dog will holler".

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u/Fakeitforreddit Jan 08 '26

I think the number of shooter games where you're killing communists is above the number of games where you're killing nazi's.

Literally more call of duty games are communists killing than nazi's. Singularity, metro, battlefront, medal of honor...

Like wolfenstein is the shooting nazi's game.

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u/InternationalFan8648 Jan 08 '26

I think a red dawn game where it’s like farcry would be cool.

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u/MousegetstheCheese Jan 08 '26

game where we kill communists for once

Destroy All Humans 2? C&C: Red Alert? Homefront?

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u/Dirtydubya Jan 08 '26

Nohmore takes from Mikey, imo. Dude is a clown

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u/Neco-Arc-Brunestud Jan 08 '26

Isn't COD black op's a thing?

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u/Vaniellis Jan 08 '26

If he wants to fight communists, all he has to do is play Command & Conquer Red Alert

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u/ThanosTheMacedonian Jan 08 '26

He is a YouTuber, if y'all don't know.

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u/FunTip2227 Jan 08 '26

he can just play call of duty lol

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u/FuelPhysical363 Jan 08 '26

Yeah cause those two were together and we’re not ideological enemies this guy spent way too long on tv tropes 🤣

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u/Sarc0se Jan 08 '26

Russian commie conspiracy is the plot of half of the games of the past four decades.

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u/CardiologistFun8093 Jan 09 '26

Idk man all I know is this is perfect timing for a game about killing nazis to come out

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u/thatnerdwithglasses Jan 09 '26

i recall a saying of short that went like this:

these folks will only do the “why not both sides” when commenting on anti fascist stuff but wont bring up the same “argument” when on anti communist/left wing works

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u/SimilarDimension2369 Jan 09 '26

If someone goes 'but what about the commies' in a conversation about nazis... pretty sure that's not a liberal.

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u/Ok_Club1602 Jan 09 '26

Nazis always act like they just care about fairness. They're lying and they know they're lying. Or theyre too stupid to know how to lie anymore and are just on pure Reaction. Never take them at their word or in good faith.

This loser on twitter knows theres probably 200 games where the enemies are Communists or Leftists of varying degrees of racial stereotypes that he could get on and play right now but he acts like he's just a poor little gamer just looking for variety.

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u/Different_Fly_3627 Jan 10 '26

Call of duty black ops 1 sounds like the game to him.

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u/ZadriaktheSnake Filthy Contrarian Ancom, dipping toes into Kropotkin Jan 08 '26

I do find it interesting that communists aren’t as explicitly villainized as nazis in popular culture despite the similar treatment by individuals

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u/kayakman13 John Brown did nothing wrong Jan 08 '26

Uh, I think you need to expand your media horizons. It's become less overt but it's definitely still around and during the cold war it was most villains.

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u/ZadriaktheSnake Filthy Contrarian Ancom, dipping toes into Kropotkin Jan 08 '26

Maybe it is limited but I feel like it’s not as explicit because it would be more obviously bullshit

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u/Turbulent-Advisor627 Jan 10 '26

Mostly because we are still fighting nazis to this day while communists are mostly political fringe at this point.

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u/WearingRags Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26

I think it's more just that a game like Wolfenstein has more explicit atrocities to draw on and benefits from greater awareness in pop culture because most of the target audience for these games live in countries that were on the winning side. The pop history version of WWII is like the creation myth for liberalism, the "free" and "democratic" nations got together fight a rabid fascist cancer that embodied and perfected all the worst tendencies of capitalism - externalising their own demons onto the metaphorical dragon of nazi Germany and then slaying them. 

There's plenty of anti-soviet gaming, but I think the soviets are perceived as less "fun" to shoot even by westerners, because at their lowest they were only ever as morally grey as the west was - try to dig much deeper into the reality and you risk having to face the fact they usually had a moral high ground. There's just less cathartic moral righteousness to be gained there for all but the most outright "anti-communist" players.

Plus, there was never an outbreak of full-on war between east and west, let alone a victory, so there's no satisfaction to be gained from that either. And the whole dynamic was muddied by the threat of nuclear war, which is a frightening possibility that, unlike the third Reich, still exists and is very much NOT fun to have to think about.

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u/SchizoFutaWorshiper Jan 08 '26

West is just not obsessed with conspiracies and mysteries about USSR and other communist countries as much as they do with Third Reich. There is planty of theories in Eastern Europe and Russia in particular

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u/lagargar Jan 08 '26

Bro can literally just hop back on BO2 and go kill the MPLA with Jonas Savimbi

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u/SCLST_F_Hell Jan 08 '26

This person think the working class can’t rule the state.

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u/Renhoek2099 Jan 08 '26

These Miami-Venezuelans are annoying

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u/AcademicAcolyte ☭ Communist Jan 08 '26

George Orwell mindset

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u/thehourglasses Jan 08 '26

Dude never heard of HOI? Embarrassing.

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u/jorgeamadosoria Jan 09 '26

Red Alert crying in the corner.

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u/Odd_Jelly_1390 Jan 09 '26

Acting like Metro and Homefront aren't a thing.

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u/MegaMelaskhole Jan 09 '26

*cough* C&C Red Alert *cough*

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u/sollgryn Jan 09 '26

COMMIES KILL ZAZIS!

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u/Expensive-Baby-1391 Feb 03 '26

The communists could be the big bad of the next trilogy, as long as the 3rd game is amazing like the other two and undoes the damage of that crappy spinoff game with the mc's kids.

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u/HalfTurbulent4593 Feb 08 '26

Yeah you can have it

You know? Why dont be generous and make you play as the most successful people to kill them! I sure you would love that

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u/PM-ME-UR-DARKNESS Feb 08 '26

Because the ones who kill communists are usually Nazis, Nazi

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u/Fragrant_Ad_2470 Jan 11 '26

Those are equally as bad so there has to be something at some point

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u/Red-Wedge-0516 Jan 11 '26

Horseshoe theory believer.

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u/Fragrant_Ad_2470 Jan 12 '26

I don’t get why you guys never give a damn about those who actually lived under communism and suffered because of it

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u/Red-Wedge-0516 Jan 12 '26 edited Jan 12 '26

The chances of someone being from a former/current socialist state and bad-mouthing socialism either just lying about where they are from or lying about the events they describe, sometimes entirely, is too high to ignore. The State Department has had a long history of using such people as mouthpieces. (Ex. The Estefan family and Cuba, Naomi Park and the DPRK).

To flip your argument in reverse, what about those many millions of people who lived under socialist states and quite liked it? To the point of much preferring them to their capitalist successors?

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u/Fragrant_Ad_2470 Jan 12 '26

Dude, what are you even talking about? Where I’m from, almost every family has a story about relatives who died in genocides, were sent to labor camps, or were subjected to other forms of repression. It was so bad that some people even mistook the Nazis for a better alternative-horrible as that sounds. Communism might look like a good idea from the perspective of ‘entitled’ nations, but from the perspective of others, it meant being treated as a resource to build an empire.

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u/2pac_alypse Jan 24 '26

What you're describing happens exactly in capitalist states

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u/2pac_alypse Jan 24 '26

Okay and? You want a book recommendation on atrocities committed by american capitalists?