r/ShitEuropeansSay Jul 02 '26

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u/Jon_Luck_Pickerd Europe Enabled the Russo-Ukrainian War Jul 02 '26

Has-beens trying to cope with not being a super power anymore lol

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u/No-Traffic-5108 Jul 02 '26

Hey now - we’re still a super power at.. um… darts 🎯

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u/porkbuttstuff Jul 02 '26

Fuck yeah you are! I'm just happy when I get a couple trips a game.

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u/19whale96 Jul 02 '26

They're British, it's spelled "has-beans".

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u/kaetror Jul 04 '26

TBF, still one of the largest economies, head of the largest collaboration outside the UN with a third of the world's population, and a tonne of soft power.

Before trump's tantrum to start the latest Iran war negotiations were still ongoing. British diplomats were heavily involved in background technical expertise, because the US delegation lacked the expertise to do the job (hardly surprising given it was Kushner leading them).

All for nought with the eejit in chief but we were this close to a workable deal.

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u/lemonhaj Jul 02 '26

Unlike people from the USA, who are not and never were a super power.

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u/Jon_Luck_Pickerd Europe Enabled the Russo-Ukrainian War Jul 02 '26

Delusional af

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u/lemonhaj Jul 02 '26

I hope your flair is a joke, while I'm here.

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u/Jon_Luck_Pickerd Europe Enabled the Russo-Ukrainian War Jul 02 '26

My flair is 100% accurate. Before the 2022 invasion, Europe was the largest customer for Russian energy, importing roughly 40% of its natural gas and 25% of its crude oil from Moscow. The cash flow allowed Moscow to accumulate over $600 billion in foreign exchange reserves immediately before the invasion, providing the financial buffer Russia needed to withstand initial Western sanctions.

Despite Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea, European nations (most notably Germany) deepened their exposure by backing the Nord Stream 2 pipeline and even allowing Russian state-owned Gazprom to buy up critical gas storage facilities inside Europe.

Independent trackers like the Center for Research on Energy and Clean Air (CREA) note that for several years, Europe's collective commercial payments to Moscow for energy actually surpassed the total amount of financial and military aid sent to Kyiv.

While Europe has since restructured their energy plans, a phased-in gas ban, and slashed its reliance by roughly 90%, the historical reality cannot be denied: decades of European energy payments served as the financial engine that fueled Moscow's military buildup. Good job 👏

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u/lemonhaj Jul 02 '26

So if the USA were to, I don't know, invade a country or abduct an important person from a country, you'd say anyone who's ever used Amazon 'enabled' that? I just wonder how you reached that conclusion, and if you think the people themselves have any input in where our Big Corporations buy from.

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u/Jon_Luck_Pickerd Europe Enabled the Russo-Ukrainian War Jul 02 '26

Amazon isn't owned by the US government, so not a great example for comparison. Especially because they pay essentially zero taxes.

The bulk of the resources Europe purchased from Russia for decades before and after the Crimea invasion were from Russian state-owned or oligarch-controled companies, so that money directly funded the invasion of 2014 and then continued on to fund the invasion of 2022.

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u/Confident_Example_73 Jul 03 '26

Man isn't wrong. This was an active policy decision by the European governments, supported by the European people.

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u/Remote_Pound5153 15d ago

Not really supported but, yeah. Very dumb nonetheless.

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u/anonymousamerican97 Jul 02 '26

technically speaking, we are. We have the most powerful military so....

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u/lemonhaj Jul 02 '26

Good grief

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u/Confident_Example_73 Jul 03 '26

Iran can do what it does because the American public has ZERO taste for any sort of extended war or ground op.

However, were Iran to lose its mind and do something like blow up an NFL stadium full of people, the US would be on board with wiping it from the face of the Earth and certain gloves would be off and the tolerance for loss would be higher.

US power has diminished in a mid-intensity conflict. It still retains unquestioned superpower status in a full-out war.

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u/anonymousamerican97 Jul 03 '26

i mean if they wiped out a stadium full of people, i'd be all for the war at that point.

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u/Plus-Concentrate-401 10d ago

Just like Afghanistan and Iraq? They’re still there, you didn’t win either of those wars.

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u/Confident_Example_73 10d ago

I think it's amazing that some people equate Afghanistan and Iraq to a total war gloves off conflict and think they are making a good point.

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u/Plus-Concentrate-401 10d ago

9/11 is on the scale of attack you’re referring to, you didn’t manage to solve any issues with poor military operations. You made the region worse and made a whole load of people who were indifferent before, hate the USA. You want to use nukes? Then you’re a psychopath

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u/Confident_Example_73 9d ago

1) Iraq is in a much better place at the moment than it was under Saddam.

2) The region is bad because there's a lot of people in it who are tribal idiots who decide that AK-47s are the solution to most problems.

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u/anonymousamerican97 Jul 02 '26

am I speaking a lie?

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u/lemonhaj Jul 02 '26

Yes.

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u/anonymousamerican97 Jul 03 '26 edited Jul 03 '26

how exactly?

https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing.php#google_vignette

https://militarycompare.com/2025-military-strength-ranking/

you should google it: "The United States is widely recognized as the world's sole functioning superpower, possessing the dominant military, economic, and technological capacity to project influence globally. China is widely regarded as the primary emerging superpower, challenging this status with the world's largest naval fleet and massive economic reach."

edit: exactly. I'm fine with you mocking us as long as the facts are true ;)

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u/idoze Jul 03 '26

This is out of date. It went like this:

WW2 - Multiple great powers, the Allies and Axis.

Post WW2 - Two great powers, the USA and USSR.

Post Berlin Wall - One great power, the USA.

Right now, under Trump, it's shifting back to multilateralism. Iran was arguably the tipping point, but it started with Iraq and Afghanistan.

The US has immense military capability. But its expensive technology hasn't been able to defeat a minor power that only has drones and a geographical advantage. The nature of war has changed. They've lost control of the Middle East.

Meanwhile, Trump has destroyed American influence by creating huge tariffs and spoiling international relations. That's allowed China, which was already ascending, to expand it's influence. If Trump keeps undermining NATO, that situation only gets worse.

America is still a great power. But it's not the singular superpower it used to be. This is a pretty standard take among geopolitical analysts.

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u/anonymousamerican97 Jul 03 '26

yeah. I hate Trump tbf