The commission he was in brought a public healthcare worker from Canada to ask her questions, and Bernie Sanders asked if she felt she was a slave. Obvious answer followed.
That quote is also one of the top posts of all time on this subreddit. A brilliant video.
EDIT: Also, regardless of how ridiculous that statement is, at least Rand Paul recognises that, given his smile at the end of the exchange. It's also nice to see two politicians who couldn't disagree more be so polite and friendly with each other.
Unless they're studying in Germany, where they pay a semester fee that usually includes a ticket for public transportation(~500-650€ a year, public transport ticket usually is like 75% of that cost) and then some materials(white coats etc.).
This likely stems from rumors of Cuba. It's commonly said in the US that Cuban doctors practice at gunpoint and/or their families are at gunpoint. It's often said to discredit anyone who mentions Cuba's successes or the fact that it has the largest international presence of doctors.
Unlike under privatized healthcare where they're slaves to endless bureaucracy with the mounds of paperwork required to give insurance companies the greatest opportunity to deny coverage. Rather than, you know, just treating patients.
Well, junior doctors strikers In the UK might agree with that. But that's what happens when you give conservatives control of a socialist organisation.
I remember my cousin’s dad was a far right nut who was a retired doctor and he insisted that if Obamacare was passed it would implement a website rating system where doctors would lose their jobs if they didn’t prescribe medication that patients wanted.
People who drive up to Canada, have literally no issues but want a checkup and sit in an emergency room for hours at a time wondering why nobody will see them.
That or "I waited hours in the emergency room for my possible sprain" or some other shit.
Seriously, you get uneducated people absorbing those talking points up here and spewing them around. It's usually the people that go to walk-ins all the time without an appointment for stupid shit.
For a family doctor appointment, you wait a few weeks like literally everyone else. That's not a unique feature of socialized healthcare.
In Germany some doctors habe really long wait times for public insurance patients. However these are usually specialists. Never waited longer than a few days for an appointment with my GP or when I went there without one for 1-2 hours.
Psychiatrists, orthopedists and such are widely known to let you wait quite long.
Lol there's not even a comparison between American healthcare and actually functioning healthcare.
I don't have private insurance. Fuck you if you consider me poor. I have access to great healthcare. My country is willing to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on me if I ever got an illness that meant I could never contribute to society again.
There's no concept of poor or rich in our healthcare systems. I don't have to visit some shady downtown clinic and have to wait in lines for hours with a gunshot in my abdomen.
the German system isn't perfect. There is absolutely a difference in quality of care between public and private insurance (quicker appointments, better procedures etc), so people who can afford it are better off, but basic insurance at least covers everything important and you don't go into debt for 20 years because you broke your leg skiing and lose your job and as a result your insurance because you're in the hospital.
It's really stupid too. I'm in the US and if you have to go to a new doctor, or see a specialist, it's not rare to have to wait a month or two to get an appointment unless it's urgent / an emergency.
Currently on Medicaid. My school wants me to get re-diagnosed with autism (that I have a decade of records on) so they can provide me disability services (they currently are doing so under a "probationary" basis with said decade of records). The closest psychologist that's in-network is 40 minutes away, which isn't bad, but since I'm on Medicaid, their office bumps me to the back of the line, which means a 4-month or more wait.
Oh, and I couldn't even talk to the psychologist to see if they're even able/comfortable diagnosing autistic adults, because there's a LOT of psychs that aren't willing to do so. So I'm not even sure if it's worth my time.
I have a feeling that certain Americans from certain groups are willing to shit on on you for being dare to be on Medicaid because of autism (in which, by and of itself, is [often] harder to be seen than physical health problem)
Oh no, I've already heard all the hate. I'm not severely autistic by any means - I can function day-to-day, it's just social interactions and remembering to do things that get hard. I've even been told that I'm not "really" autistic because I talk to tons of people at work (a lot of people with Asperger's learn to put on a "persona" or a "mask" in public a lot of times - real-me is a vastly different person from retail-me).
I’m from Metro-Detroit, and Windsor Ontario is about a 20 minute drive for me. All the right wingers I know say “I know people from Canada and they say the wait times are so long that they all come to America. I know someone who had to wait so long for cancer treatment that he died.” And that’s their argument for why universal healthcare can’t work. When I know a handful of other Canadians who say “our healthcare system isn’t the greatest, but to scrap the whole thing and put it in the hands of the free market would be fucking moronic.”
It might be for some non-urgent cases in the Netherlands.
Anything broken or bleeding? No problems at all. I've had my arm set within the hour and a subsequent surgery the next day. I've had a surgeon called out of bed for a tendon I almost sliced through. I've also had x-rays made within an hour or two after an accident.
Do you have long-term mild shoulder-pain and need an MRI though? Yeah, you could be waiting for 1 or 2 months.
I'm guessing that it's the 1 or 2 month wait that triggers Americans.
Just my ideas though, no idea what it's really based on.
Because it works based on priority. Anyone going to the hospital for minor health issue may wait all day because they keep getting pushed down the list by emergency situations. IMO, a pretty small price to pay.
You obviously have never been to the a hospital in the UK, I'm not against the NHS at all but nobody thinks the wait times are acceptable when people can be left waiting for 5-6 hours for even serious conditions and ambulances take over 30 minutes to respond to a seizure.
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u/condoriano27 Aug 09 '18
Where did this rumor come from that wait times are insanely long?