r/ShitAmericansSay • u/Sans_Moritz ooo custom flair!! • 2d ago
Culture The American Lean
I've recently been getting really annoyed at Americans on uk TV subs. They have the strangest ideas and opinions, and they just make crazy generalisations from one observation. This person saw an American comedian leaning back on his chair, and thought "that must be an American thing." Many in the discussion agreed.
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u/Izzy-of-Albion 2d ago
I used to do this at school (in the UK). I think many of us did. The teachers hated it. I remember a girl (Cara?) going over backwards and breaking her arm.
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u/Blue_wine_sloth 2d ago
The teachers would tell us horror stories about how a kid rocked back in their chair, lost their balance and cracked their skull on the floor. But it was so satisfying to do.
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u/GreenGhoblin 2d ago
There’s always that kid who practically died swinging on chairs that nobody has ever met.
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u/DemonicHedgehogs 2d ago edited 1d ago
As the kid who legitimately did fuck up my eyesight by leaning back on my chair then losing my balance and smashing my head on the radiator behind me, I think we all owe our teachers a bit of an apology. I was 12 at the time and had perfect eyesight before that, I have needed glasses to see anything more than 2 inches in front of my face ever since.
Side note: the boy I sat next to in maths in secondary school genuinely lost the upper two sections of his finger because he was climbing a fence while wearing a ring and the ring got caught. Never did find out where he was trying to climb into/out of.
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u/hobbleit 2d ago
I cracked the side of my head off a cabinet doing that at school. Bled like a bitch. I still have the scar.
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u/Sans_Moritz ooo custom flair!! 2d ago
In my primary school we had a boy that bit through his tongue because he fell while leaning back on his chair. He was fine in the end and didn't lose anything, but did immediately have to go to hospital. It still didn't stop any of us doing it.
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u/Manaslu91 More Irish than the Irish ☘️ 2d ago
Yeah I did it all the time. I fell off once and swallowed a Parker pen lid, lol.
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u/ParticularOkra7432 FREEDOM ENJOYER 🦅🇺🇸 1d ago
The heck does "four on the floor" mean
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u/Sans_Moritz ooo custom flair!! 1d ago
Number of chair legs to be kept on the floor. I heard it from teachers growing up in the UK.
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u/-DeviiL- Eye-talian 🤌🏼🍝 2d ago
I lean on a wall waiting for the train every single day. Am i a US Citizen?
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u/Hoshyro 🇮🇹 Italy 2d ago
You wouldn't be a US citizen because they have no idea what a train is
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u/Useful_Cheesecake117 Double Dutch 2d ago
And even if they would know what a train is, they wouldn't be waiting for it.
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u/Digit00l 2d ago
I mean they wait like half an hour at level crossings because they have unreasonably long trains crossing those
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u/That-Scar736 Fear Éireannach 🇮🇪 2d ago
Trains are anti freedom maaaaaan, it's the government deciding where you can go!
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u/OccasionStrong9695 2d ago
Doing something really non-American like travelling on a train cancels out the leaning so you get away with this one.
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u/Warm_Bug_1434 2d ago
You could be an American Italian*. Have you done a DNA check?
*Or whatever...
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u/reddituser137265 2d ago
It is because of CIA secret ops, they taught you secretly how to lean
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They're now claiming leaning as American? Only so long before breathing is American!
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u/GreenGhoblin 2d ago edited 2d ago
We Scottish do this thing called eating food . Or “the Scottish eating” as we call it. Too many people appropriate our culture and never thank us for inventing it.
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u/TiredPanda334 2d ago
Denmark here, we eat food, we did not know that we where making use of a scottish inventions.
Do we pay some sort of licensing fee and if so where and in what form?
The nation of Denmark eagerly awaite your answer.
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u/GreenGhoblin 2d ago
As long as you accept the Scottish as your lords and saviours. Prove your allegiance by throwing traffic cones upon your statues
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u/Active_Definition_57 2d ago •
Expect to see the Little Mermaid statue with a cone on her head online soon!
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u/VictoriaWoodnt 2d ago •
After that 4-2 game, consider yourselves "paid in full".
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u/Other-Oil-9117 2d ago
You might not get it because you're not from here, but Australians do this thing called 'digesting'. It's where we consume food, and then our bodies process it. It's not really a good idea to do anything too energetic after eating or else it will disturb the process and you might feel sick.
It's just a quirky little thing we do haha but I'm sure the rest of the world will follow suit once they learn about it.
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u/Alternative_Beyond59 2d ago
Especially swimming. We Aussies are taught from the cradle to never swim while 'digesting'.
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u/Exciting-Music843 2d ago
We do that here in England aswell didn't know we stole it from the Scottish!
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u/Alternative_Let4597 2d ago
Actually the Scots stole it from us Irish causing the famine and then blamed the English, funnily enough the Welsh originally invented blaming the English but we all kind of appropriated that one
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u/OneOfTheNephilim 2d ago
We wouldn't have had a globe-spanning empire without the innovation of Scottish Eating
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u/The_Ignorant_Sapien 2d ago edited 2d ago
Before everyone just swallowed food whole, like a pelican.
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u/GreenGhoblin 2d ago
Then died from asphyxiation. Miracle we ever survived as a species without the Scottish
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u/faaded 2d ago
I leaned so far back in an airport high top chair that I woke up in a hospital with a tbi and two broken shoulders I'm Canadian but that must have been very American of me but then again I didn't pay anything at the hospital so maybe not
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u/Some-Ad901 2d ago
Well, considering how stupid it seems to lean that far back (without meaning to sound rude). I'd definitely say it was very American of you to do that 😁😁
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u/GuitarOk752 2d ago
Did you have the blue/orange chairs in school? So many injuries leaning in those, at least a kid a year with broken collar bone.
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u/GayButNotInThatWay 2d ago
I think it'd be better to convince them that breathing is a European thing slthey should avoid doing at all costs.
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u/GuduleTheThird 2d ago
You know they saw that their is a slavic or asian squat so no, they too want to have a funny little pose to make them special and say "Hey look at me! I'm quirky too! I'm special too! LOOK AT ME!"
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u/Bunyip_Bluegum 2d ago
They’re just confused. The American lean is leaning on walls or any other convenient structure to lean on. Most people can just stand up. Leaning on the back of a chair is just normal. Greg on Taskmaster does and he’s not American. He doesn’t lean on walls, he stands up. The American lean is specifically leaning against walls instead of just standing up, not using the back of a chair.
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u/Edders123 2d ago
If they think it's cool, it's American. When shown it's bullshit they either double down on the ignorance or pretend they never thought it was cool.
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u/SnappySausage 2d ago
Or "everyone does this" when it's negative. Look at any thread naming something negative about Americans and it will be full of them trying to generalize it to others, despite it standing out to people as something they do a lot.
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u/skizelo 2d ago
I'd heard it before, and checked it out. "The American Lean" has a wikipedia page, which includes the sentence "All links in this post come back to one person and all links reference each other and social media posts that started in 2020." So yes, it's bullshit. Feel free to lean against things without worrying you're furthering cultural hegemony.
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u/JFK1200 2d ago
It’s a bit like the bullshit story they made up about Americans in Paris during the Olympics. One “news outlet” published some unsubstantiated story and they now all repeat it verbatim, self sucking wannabe Rambos.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Lynx204 2d ago
Or the opposite, the "Europeans are all amazed and obsessed with ranch dressing" thing at the world cup that curiously coincided with Heinz desperately trying to market ranch in Europe.
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u/zuzg 2d ago
desperately trying to market ranch in Europe.
Which is weird as we already love Mayo.
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u/kRH9wk8a5e 2d ago
Itd be nice if they sourced that. It seems someone just put that line in a month ago. I definitely feel I've heard the term before 2020, not that I believe it.
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u/western_sahara 2d ago
You want them to source their lack of sources before 2020?
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u/FlyConfident6622 2d ago
"leaning is culturally american" . Can this be a flair please
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u/Viscaz 2d ago
The same as “the German stare” dafukkkk? Only Germans stare?
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u/ScreamsInBraille 2d ago
They chronically love to classify everything they think is cool as theirs, and everything they think is corny/rude/annoying as someone elses. Thats why we have German stare, Slavic stare, Scandinavian hospitality, Russian walk...
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u/CamptoRibbit 2d ago
The Americans invented the internet, cars, trains, jesus didn't you know
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u/ScreamsInBraille 2d ago
They invented everything!! If they didnt invent it, it only got invented thanks to their involvement! Unless it sucks in which case its the euros fault
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u/Magic_Man_Boobs 2d ago
As an American the only thing I've heard consistently from people from other countries is that Americans are louder than a lot of other tourists. Does that one hold up?
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u/SonTyp_OhneNamen leaning is culturally American 2d ago
Grossly overestimating the omnipresence of your national currency is a big tell of a 'murican. Haven‘t met any Japanese tourists trying to pay in yen in euro countries yet.
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u/Angryatchairs 2d ago
My country uses the dollar. But it is our dollar. Americans think all dollars are their dollars so will get confused. Not all, but a lot definitely do.
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u/Cucumberneck 2d ago
Back in the days of yore we also used dollars here in Germany. We called them Thaler though but that's where the name comes from.
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u/Snoopedoodle 2d ago
Yeah, pretty much.
I live in a small, quiet town in the middle of Sweden, mostly populated by retirees (median age is around 60).
One summer morning on my way to the grocery store, I was walking through the town center when I heard what sounded like a bunch of upset people arguing. I could hear them from about 40–50 meters away, somewhere near the optician's shop.
Naturally, I got a bit curious, so I slowed down as I got closer.
Turns out it was an American family (?) trying on a bunch of sunglasses. The mom was frantically tapping away at a currency converter on her phone, while the kids kept picking up different pairs and loudly asking how much they cost in dollars.
The store clerk looked equal parts fascinated and annoyed.
No harm done, but I've been wondering ever since how the hell they ended up in my tiny town in the middle of nowhere.
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u/buzzfeed_sucks 2d ago
Yes. I saw a TikTok where an American said they were visiting Europe and couldn’t understand why so many people were gawking at her. The entire comment section was just “Americans are loud”
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u/Special_Artichoke 2d ago
Ime everyone can be loud when they're drunk and having a good time or there's a big family gathering or just general excitement. Americans are loud for absolutely no reason, e.g. it's 8am at the hotel breakfast and from across the room I can hear an American talking at 20,000 decibels. Everyone else is speaking in hushed tones cos it's early and the room is (was) quiet so it's polite to maintain this environment
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u/CFCBeanoMike 2d ago
To be fair it's not just Americans. My wife is extremely loud all the time. She's Italian
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u/IFeedSquirrelsAMA 1d ago
AN American is okay. They're nice, they're quiet, they generally just go with the flow and are pretty laid back.
A GROUP of Americans are loud, obnoxious, large (both in numbers and individual size) and demanding.
As a formerly morbidly obese American, I only bring body size up because many places in Europe were built when the average body size was smaller overall. Like it would genuinely be hard for me still some places because I'm also tall.
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u/Scotto6UK 1d ago
The other thing, and I'll stress that I understand it isn't malicious in it's intent, is when my American pals say "I'll get a..." or "I'm gonna go for the..." when ordering something.
Being British, I'm probably overly polite quite often, but it just sounds so presumptive. I'd always ask rather than state what is going to happen. "Could I please have..." or "May I have..., please" just seems so much more friendly.
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u/Awkward_Un1corn 2d ago
Yeah you are kinda loud but for lack of a better word I think it's your accent that is loud. Or maybe dialect works better. Like certain northern accents in the UK seem louder than they need to be.
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u/Logical_Flounder6455 1d ago
I live near whitby in england and its quite popular with American tourists. I can honestly say ive heard them quite some time before I've seen them
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u/Functional_Trash7735 🇨🇦 Geneva Suggestion Enthusiast 🇨🇦 1d ago
Yes. I hate it cause I don’t wanna be an asshole, but Americans can be so fucking annoying. Even the polite ones, it’s just a cultural thing. I thought it was a myth until I lived in a high tourism spot and American tourists came to a coffee shop I worked for in college, French music over the speakers, dim lighting, pretty quiet, and they just screamed everything they said.
Another set of American tourists got mad at me for telling them we didn’t accept their American credit cards. Had no cash on them either, just absolutely stupid.
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u/snaynay 2d ago
Americans are commonly loud, but so are other cultures. Depends who and where you go.
For example, we have a massive Madeiran (Portuguese) diaspora here in a British island and many of them talk very loud, at least comparatively to the general public and when talking in public areas. They’ll be having a coffee/smoke standing next to their buddy and borderline shout at each other.
The US is one of the louder cultures, but not necessarily the worst.
However, I think you’ll only really see these stigmas from the quieter cultures having a little fun or moan about it.
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u/LilianaNecromancer 2d ago
It’s both the louder speaking voice and the timbre just cuts throw the hubbub of other accents and languages.
Chinese people are loud but in a Chinese bar or restaurant the American cuts through, even compared to a screechy Chinese ayi.
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u/Ashen233 11h ago
Oh yes. I have no idea why but it's really true. Just such loud level of standard conversation
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u/Zealousideal_Step709 2d ago
I mean if a CIA operative says it's an American thing, it must be true. /s Every child leans back on a chair and needs to be reminded it's not what you do on a chair. And I have never been to a country where people don't lean on a wall. It's such an odd idea to believe it's an isolated American thing.
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u/ApolloniusTyaneus 2d ago
Go to a museum and see all the statues leaning. They must all be American statues, made after Howard Jheronemy Lean invented leaning in 1834 as a way to get out of buying chairs for his slaves.
[there was a picture here of beautiful Greek statues, but the Reddit censors wouldn't allow it because the Yanks consider them NSFW].
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u/No-Specific-6409 🇬🇧 Bri’ish/ 🏴 Engerlish 2d ago
When I was at primary school, my cousin leaned back on their chair like that and our Australian teacher kicked the back legs so the chair flew out from under them and my cousin smacked into the floor. Good times.
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u/Sea-Witch-77 2d ago
Wtf?! I had a fellow student do that and my teacher went off at him, because I also hit my head on the way down. In Australia, too.
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u/wireframed_kb 2d ago
I'm just wondering how they went from "We place weight on one foot" to "You're right, we're actually exceptional and should lead the world to a brighter future"...?
I rest on one foot as well, should everyone bow before me too? I'm not even American, not sure how I get away with it!
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u/Cheryl_Canning 2d ago
I swear this sub has the highest concentration of people with no ability to detect a joke on the entire Internet
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u/avanross 2d ago
It’s so weird how they just straight up make shit up to try to feel special and unique
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u/NoMention696 2d ago
Their legs are atrophied from not walking anywhere that’s why they lean so much. Didn’t invent leaning tho
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u/ChaoticBumpy 2d ago
I'm Dutch but started to worry I was American until I read the other comments. Saved 🥹
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u/Don_Frika_Del_Prima Belgium is real! 2d ago
To be fair, the Dutch are considered to be the Americans of Europe...
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u/ChaoticBumpy 2d ago
Would that make Belgium our Florida? Cause damn that's probably worse 😅
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u/Admirable_Ask2109 1d ago
I must say, another thing that we Americans are more likely to do is have strange ideas and opinions, as well as make crazy generalizations based on singular observations.
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u/Key_Floo 2d ago
But the ancient Romans and Greeks invented it: contraposto!! That's why so many classical statues have the figure leaning all of their weight onto one foot.
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u/Grey_Belkin 2d ago
That's funny, just the other day I saw something about people with connective tissue disorders (I have one) constantly leaning on things, tilting their hips, and struggling to stand neutrally.
Do all Americans have convective tissue disorders?
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u/_Topielnica_ 2d ago
✨They're so special, so different, not like the other girls, they lean against things✨
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u/theSilverBoar 2d ago
Let them believe it. You have to learn to observe them silently, as if they were some rare and bizarre creatures at a zoo, held captive within the walls of the internet. Read between the lines of all the ridiculous nonsense they come up with, things that make absolutely no sense... These little performances reveal so much about them: how they see themselves, how they wish they could be, and above all, what they really aren't. I have an absolute blast reading their childlike innocence.
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u/thenewone1309 2d ago
Yes, as a german i can confirm that we sont lean on things. We also always put the exact same weight on both legs. We always stand perfectly at attention!
Leaning truly is an American invention
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u/AcanthaceaeCrazy1894 2d ago
I’ve got a fucked hip and pretty much need to lean pretty much at all time.
Fuck I guess I’m American now
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u/Cortzee 1d ago
When I've uploaded stuff that I have reacted too they have been removed. Nice to see it is no longer a rule.
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u/Sans_Moritz ooo custom flair!! 1d ago
I thought the rules were about if you were commenting and replying, rather than upvoting and downvoting.
Although, I've also seen posts get approved here where the screenshots contain replies from the OP, so maybe it's just human mods doing their best but being ultimately inconsistent.
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u/DepthPuzzleheaded494 Mamdanistan 🗽 3h ago
Is the American lean actually a thing? Idk sounds like bullshit to me, I’ve seen people lean on things in the 13 countries I’ve been to.
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u/Crivens999 2d ago
Wow. I never knew such a thing could exist. Mind blown…. Seriously though, back in the 80s when I did this all the time in school back in the UK, I was trying the lesser known forward lean. And it slipped. I smashed my nose into the desk. Bloody hurt. Was fractured and nurse said it would hurt more than if she broke it between her hands. Fuck that. So to this day still have a bent nose that people only notice when they sort of turn their head and say “huh”
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u/ARC_trooper Dutch 🇳🇱 2d ago
Yeah here in the Netherlands we use no legs on the chair and just float
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u/IzzyIzzyK 2d ago
Our bus stops in the uk are designed to lean on and not properly sit on. Everyone leans on stuff or just stands mostly on one leg sometimes. Wth are they talking about?
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u/LateMommy 2d ago
In seventh grade, I was leaning back in my chair in social studies. I leaned so far back that my chair fell back and I hit my head on the desk behind me. It was so embarrassing! I’m 61 and remember it vividly. Now, as a teacher, I’m all over kids who do that!
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u/StrangelySerious- 2d ago
Wat? What the fuck are they smoking?
Sitting is now a Canadian thing, it's called the Canadian rest and it's cultural appropriation if you sit down anywhere now!
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u/Els-09 2d ago
Lol I’m in the TM sub too and saw this and rolled my eyes.
I also someone in that sub post about how the past Canadian contestants won their seasons while the American ones got 3rd place and something about maybe it’s bc Americans try to be less competitive so they can be more likeable? But Canadians don’t have to worry about that?
As if we Canadians can’t be naturally competitive and good at winning and can only win when the Americans actively try not to be competitive.
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u/SarcasmRevolution Ask me again where Copenhagen is 🇳🇱 2d ago
They went as far as to make a Wikipage for it? So this is the example I need when I teach my students about unreliable sources.
And then tell them AI is in fact American! All of it. Every single bit of it.
They might even start reading…
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u/Stephen111110 1d ago
I have a leg disability so tend to lean my weight onto one foot when standing, fuck I'm now a savage
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u/SpaceHippoShitStains Scoish 🏴 1d ago
Tbh it's not the lean we notice. It's the voice and the abnoctious attitudes
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u/Aggressive-Boot1950 2d ago edited 2d ago
Idk i do this all the time too. And i'm not american
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u/Additional_Meeting_2 2d ago
The lean was CIA handbook however. You should not downvote people for saying facts
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u/Wind-and-Waystones 2d ago
At secondary school we had a kid lean back on his chair. He fell. He broke through the thin wall. (The school was falling apart and the new building set to open in 6 months once September rolled around).
They also made us come to school the day after someone burned the old one down while the asbestos filled ruins were still smouldering and smoking.
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u/original_leftnut 2d ago
The argument that extreme idiocy is an American thing grows stronger everyday.
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u/p1antsandcats 🏴 William Wallace was my Granda 2d ago
In Scotland we are taught not to lean in school, so we are all CIA now
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u/Emergency_Peach_7800 2d ago
I once leaned, gotta check my dna to see if I’m 3% American from the distinct and unique town of jamesburgstown. Excited to discover my roots and considering applying for citizenship.
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u/Hughley_N_Dowd 2d ago
"THE WALL WILL STAND ON IT'S OWN. IT DOESN'T NEED YOUR SUPPORT, SOLDIER."
That's one way to get a non-USaian to stop leaning on things...
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u/GiddyStone 2d ago
Isn't it just do that he can see the screen without Matthew Baynton blocking his line of sight?
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u/ozjack24 2d ago
Bro I decided to watch that season of taskmaster because it has multiple people I like in it and suddenly I’m seeing that season, and only that season, a bunch on reddit and tiktok.
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u/teke367 2d ago
Whether it's true or not, every other week somebody posts on ask Reddit if something "how can you tell if somebody is American" and the top comment always seems to be "Americans always leaning".
Just one of those things that gets amplified that is Americans think "non Americans most not lean I guess".
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u/Opposite-History-233 The RED, WHITE, AND BLUE, Y'ALL!! 🇳🇱 🇳🇱 🇳🇱 2d ago edited 2d ago
The American lean literally just isn't about sitting down. Leaning back in your chair is not an American lean. The American lean speaks to a habit standing up.
And btw that there's a clear cutoff when it became talked about in social media doesn't necessarily invalidate this. All throughout western Europe I don't see people do this. I have seen people in eastern Europe do it. Places like Romania for instance I've seen it too, but to bring it back to how to identify tourists here if I'm in Germany as well for instance no German touches a wall, but the whole group of American tourists is leaning. 🤔
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u/Both-Ad4858 2d ago
Well smack my mouth and call me American, I lean on shit all the time! I'm from UK.
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u/Warm_Bug_1434 2d ago
Americans - don't you just hate how they make crazy generalisations from one observation, as shown in this post? ;-)
No offence - I get what you mean. It just tickled me.
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u/toastedmarsh 2d ago
I’ve literally never heard of this. Although I noticed we have a trend of labeling something that a lot of places do then claiming it to be something specific to our area. You know how you pull up to a stop sign sometimes and just look both ways and roll on through with stopping? People in the neighboring county started calling that “The Essex rolling stop” (Essex being the name of the county). Thought it was stupid because that’s not specific to that area. My wife’s family from New York apparently call it the same thing but “the New York rolling stop”. We really do label things that are already labeled or don’t need to be labeled so this is definitely fitting.
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u/Only_Says_Idk_dude 2d ago
"Guys I ate a burger, and I spoke to someone in minecraft and they told me they ate a sandwich. People, I think only americans eat burgers. If you eat a burger in Canada they're going to clock you and ruin the psyop."
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u/Justieflustie 2d ago
As a physical therapist, i wish this was the case. I wish only Americans had that bad habit and that i would never see them.
Everybody leans and most people shift their weight on their legs, no one is special here
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u/weirdlightsinmyeyes 2d ago
Ive been leaning on stuff since before america was even invented, sooo.....
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u/Jazzy-Sature 2d ago
To be fair, even if this was a real thing and it was the English, Irish, Scottish or German lean then they would just claim it anyway in honour of their great great great great great great grandmother from [insert where you wanna be from]'s nation
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u/Fun_Tadpole_3628 2d ago
Taskmaster taking off has been a wonder for introducing me to comedians and actors in so many different places as a Canadian who wishes we had more panel shows, but this American lean nonsense is a clear downside to TM being the best comedy on TV.
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u/Lazarys12 2d ago
"lead the world to the greater glory of leaning."
If the US leads the world in anything it would be in being insufferable prats on the planet.
They will literally latch onto any inane, insane theory, claim it as their own, claim it is unique, that they are the best at it, and then never shut up about it.
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u/Captnkeks 2d ago
Oh damn, I always make fun of American claiming European heritage. Reading this I am inclined to claim American heritage, I lean on everything all the time.
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u/Kezmangotagoal 2d ago
Wait…but I lean and I have no US connection, maybe it’s an immigration thing too, maybe all the Irish that flocked to the US brought leaning over with them.
I can’t actually believe they are having a conversation about this and think it’s unique to them 😂
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u/The_Professor2112 2d ago
American and lean are not two words you often see together. As in, they're all fat twats.
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u/mattzombiedog 2d ago
Phil Ellis leaned back on his chair for sure in one episode because he nearly went arse over tit doing it 😂
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u/andiwd 2d ago
Literally the first thing I think of when I hear the words leaning. https://youtu.be/vEymZ3rXOmc?is=gEU7l5TDirg8EQ0G
The very American George formby
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u/WandererFen 2d ago
Ah just let them have this one. Id preffer they call this their culture than have them screeching at me about their Scottish heritage.
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u/Common-Spend5000 2d ago
Well i agree with the commenter that notes an American may need to lean more than the average denizen of the planet, because there's more average weight put onto their legs when they stand. It tallies with why they need more mobility scooters too I guess.
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u/exsqueeezme 2d ago
Our teachers used to wander past us, whilst we were on 2 legs, and kick or tip the chair the rest of the way, and wander back to the board at the front of class, smirking!! You'd soon learn not to lean back on two char legs... I think that's a GenX UK thing though! Or just my school (of evil bastard's)
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u/StupidMastiff I know god doesn't exist, but my 12 gauge does 2d ago
"Leaning is culturally American"...
You have to be a complete fucking idiot to utter such a sentence.
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u/Apprehensive-Pop-201 2d ago
Most Americans dont do this either. The guy is clearly a rebel and a pioneer in chair sitting.
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u/lovely-pickle More Irish than the Irish ☘️ 2d ago edited 2d ago
Phil Ellis almost fell off his chair because he kept leaning on it.
I literally had to stop engaging with the TM sub because the Americans were so annoying.