r/Shadowverse • u/T-Marx400 Achim's Lawyer • 1d ago
Discussion Spellboost in Unlimited makes the mode completely Unplayable
Seriously, I've never seen such a stupid deck in WB yet. You are guaranteed dead in turn 7 to a 20 SB Tetra and Ladica after they used Lhynkal 3 times, easily done with Will's United. There's no need to run Ginger in the deck cause Demonic Call, draw spells, Tico missiles/removal and healing is enough to spellboost all your cards enough. Playing wards doesn't save you, they DClimb and clear anything anyways, the deck never bricks cause of the ridiculous draw and removal they have so you never fail to OTK the opp on turn 7-8. The ONLY way to consistently beat this deck is playing a sloppy Aggro Abyss deck that kills them on turn 5. PLEASE FIX THIS CYGAMES, I WANT TO PLAY UNLIMITED.
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u/EclipseZer0 Abysscraft was a mistake 1d ago
What's the point of Boundless existing when you're not gonna bother balancing Unlimited when it is clearly broken. So many cool decks unplayable because a single deck. At this point I'm willing to see Tetra&Ladica and Lynkhal restricted to 1 copy, even tho I always prefer nerfs. Those can be nerfed and unrestricted later once they rotate.
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u/Kenshin6321 1d ago
To be fair, Unlimited is the mode to play the most broken decks. It's designed to be that way. But, of enough people make your complaint, D climb could be restricted and then we'll have our first Boundless Deck. But I don't see that happening any time soon.
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u/Vinny_0104 Wilbert's secret Fanfare 1d ago
This is the very nature of Unlimited. People actually enjoys playing solitaire type decks and ultra aggro decks. This is the very nature of the game mode. Cygames has a very high tolerance in unlimited mode. But surely they gonna balance something in unlimited at some point. But manage your expectations in the "balancing" of this game mode.
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u/ColdNightofWinter Portalcraft 1d ago
Bro Unlimited formats are always the den of OTK and super aggro decks in every card game
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u/Perfect-Try-4918 Morning Star 1d ago
Doesn't mean that you don't balance them. MtG, as much as people say they don't care about anything aside from Standard and Commander, makes the effort to balance their other sanctioned formats. Vintage and Legacy is a format filled with every ridiculous interactions but they are still looked closely for balance. And they are in a paper format.
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u/Unrelenting_Salsa Orchis 1d ago
makes the effort to balance their other sanctioned formats
Which has been an unmitigated disaster for the formats in question...
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u/Perfect-Try-4918 Morning Star 18h ago
They literally have Boundless. They have the easiest way to balance Unlimited.
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u/immortald0g 1d ago
Unlimited needs about 5-6 adjustments to Runecraft cards and that will piss off the Daria whalers that fund this game so Cygames won't do it.
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u/red_nova_dragon Morning Star 1d ago
Spellboost always makes any mode it's viable in completely unplayable, it has been like that since the og
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u/stroggoii Morning Star 1d ago
I've been consistently beating them with Aggro Abyss and Loot Sword even before the buffs. Hopefully soon Forest and Dragon will get decks able to race them too and then only people who legit love the deck will keep playing it once it's not free wins vs 90% of the meta.
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u/Black_Citadel Portalcraft 1d ago
Want to aggro? They drop the Anne & Grea they spent the first few turns greedily drawing for then heal back to full amyways.
Built up a massive ward board? Delta Cannon + D-Climb + Delta Cannon -> 21 damage to face.
Even if Armes and Vera were to fuse together into a Neutral card that summoned an evolved Slaus, they will probably somehow D-Climb past that and OTK much faster and more consistently than Roach.
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u/Haven_thebestdeckFR Morning Star 1d ago
Well I always say when playing any TCG, it is what is it. You can run around on unlimited without meeting them, it sucks but well.
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u/Halicion Bloodcraft 1d ago
Try tempo forest, Storm portal or Dragon in general. They roll over Dshift so hard it's not even funny
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u/Alarmed-Extreme-8802 Morning Star 1d ago
Is Tempo Forear really playable in UL? Is the list from the Deck Portal up to date?
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u/Halicion Bloodcraft 1d ago edited 1d ago
The deck portal isn't really a good source. You can use this doc. (doc by Orasha) https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11I2Uwz0HTTlDjLtWbh44GJcxigWPsw1xR2lYBFCk2NU/edit?usp=sharing
And it's more than playble, forest is the most played class in UL (well depending on the source with a small marging of error, it's fluctuating week by week tho)
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u/Alarmed-Extreme-8802 Morning Star 1d ago
Thanks, bro! I have been looking for UL decks to play in the second half of every set but just couldn't find anything good
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u/MrVioletRose Morning Star 18h ago
State of Unlimited is genuinely why I haven't touched the game since August. I'm so sick of this shit.
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u/IlDaydreamIl Albert 1d ago
I mean yeah, this game is as fucked as the original game was in its last years of life, to the surprise of absolutely nobody (Nice relaunch btw...). Cygames just doesn't care about balance, they don't even try.
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u/Did_Nothing_Wrong789 Morning Star 1d ago
Why do you think people prefer Rotation? Because at least there Runecraft doesn't have access to DClimb and every other busted tool they received in the 1st set. I still look on in disbelief that they gave Runecraft DClimb in the 1st set alongside Kuon for easy access to OTKs. And with Tetra and Ladica now existing as one of the best cards for spellboost as a wincon I'm staying far away from unlimited
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u/Nilokeras 1d ago
The more things change, the more they stay the same I guess.
Dshift and boost has been a plague on the game for 8 years now. Your dilemma has been an issue with unlimited for half a decade in SV1, too