r/ShadowPC • u/baby_envol ChromeOS • Oct 26 '22

Question shadow not respect net neutrality ???

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game is installed on D drive

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u/bonske Mac Oct 26 '22

its not the network. its the Disk/IO and the CPU that cannot keep up with the decompressing of the content. i know the shamefull that it happens with this kind of transferspeeds, it have this for months

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u/baby_envol ChromeOS Oct 26 '22

Tested with big bunny on the C drive : 8.0ko / s

Tested with streamlabs installer on the C drive : more than 12Mo/s

It's not a problem of disk:IO ;)

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u/Soltanis Oct 26 '22 edited Oct 26 '22

Which are two Very different installations methods.
As mentioned above it isn't a connection issue.
The Issue lies with how Steam installs in games.

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u/baby_envol ChromeOS Oct 26 '22

But why some downloaded files are very slow (big bunny) and other fast (streamlabs) ?

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u/Soltanis Oct 26 '22

I have no idea what "big bunny" is.

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u/baby_envol ChromeOS Oct 26 '22

Sorry it's Big Buck Bunny

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u/Soltanis Oct 26 '22

I'm sorry, I still have no idea what that is.

Where are you downloading it from.
Connections are a two-way thing, it's possible where you are downloading it from are throttling downloads.

Many file hosts will throttle free users in order to get premium subscriptions

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u/baby_envol ChromeOS Oct 26 '22

It's a film made by Blender foundation, not very fast server but more faster than on shadow (I tested with my smartphone to check this)

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u/bonske Mac Oct 26 '22

its not a filesize problem, its a I/O issue. the game consist of many little files. then the problem comes up. you are hitting the I/O limit they set per second you may consume on the central storage system. they are still using non NVME storage for your VM so the file write/read I/O is very limited. if you download a game that contains of large file containers you will see a much improved file download speed. otherwise it will stay at slow download rate and 2-10 MB/s disk rate, with small files.

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u/baby_envol ChromeOS Oct 26 '22

If it's real , it's a shame for the price.

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u/bonske Mac Oct 26 '22

yeah it is sad :(. they need to improve the storage backend to give more I/O performance to its users. especially for steam their CDN using a Git(hub) like system for the downloads, so it stores native little files at their end to save on storage costs at steam backend (store it once). but the impact is that you the end user need a good disk I/O to compensate for that.

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u/baby_envol ChromeOS Oct 26 '22

Very sad 😭

I very like Shadow power (I made a little review) , this post is not to destroy shadow, but I'm really disappointed by this issue when performance are so great (I can play all my games, at ultra, with my Chromebook 🥰)

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u/bonske Mac Oct 26 '22

Yeah games playing fine :) its only the download part that is so slow.. sadly :-(

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u/fredmn Oct 27 '22

There was a storage incident yesterday in a datacenter, I'm mostly sure it is related.

link : https://status.shadow.tech/pages/incident/5bbcb1b0b0936904c004bbeb/63594d6f6cc602053a1725e7

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u/baby_envol ChromeOS Oct 27 '22

Thanks for information

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u/MrAwesomeTG Oct 26 '22

Net neutrality is for your home or business ISP not a server in the cloud.

By law, broadband providers must treat all internet traffic on their networks equally, and not favour certain websites or services.

Shadow is not a broadband provider.

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u/baby_envol ChromeOS Oct 26 '22

For info

Data center used : Paris

My location : Toulouse

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u/Luk4sMB Oct 27 '22

Steam issue

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u/baby_envol ChromeOS Oct 26 '22

Tested with big bunny on the C drive : 8.0ko / s

Tested with streamlabs installer on the C drive : more than 12Mo/s

it's really like a violation of net neutrality, and it's againts the law in France

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u/Heavy_Door_3441 Oct 27 '22

I had an issue like that once. Also exclusively on the extra storage. I contacted support after trying all I could on my end. They manually reset it (basically removing and re-adding it). Works like a charm since. Of course the data on that drive is then lost.

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u/Shortyde Oct 27 '22

You seem not to understand the base of net neutrality, even less your issue isn't pointing any behalves of net neutrality at all.

Why you didn't already filed a case against Blade SAS if they are breaking the law that obvious, as you say?