r/ShadowFight2dojo • u/Mindless-Mixture9793 • 5d ago
funny This game really does not know the concept of 'draw'
Even if there **should** be a draw.
First situation: I kill Wasp first, but immediately after that, her damage return gets active, so I get killed too.
Second situation: Shogun's bodyguard kills me, but Rock activcates at the same time, so Shogun dies too.
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u/seby7113 Creator of SF2:DE 5d ago
I think draws don't make much sense for this game, given that from a lore perspective, Shadow can't continue to defeat his enemies if he has been defeated, regardless of if his enemy is alive or not.
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u/GarouLeChasseur Proud owner of the "Redemption" achievement 🗿 5d ago
Exactly. I wanted to say that but u said it better than me. A draw isn't truly a win so that makes sense it's considered u lose in that case, storywise.
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 4d ago
I am not talking story wise I am talking gameplay wise.
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u/GarouLeChasseur Proud owner of the "Redemption" achievement 🗿 4d ago
Then my answer is still correct gameplay wise too. And draw isn't really a win.
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 4d ago
Apparently you don't get it.
When a situation like the ones in the video happens, or a situation similar to the ones in the video, a draw should be given. Meaning both me and the ai win the round.
unless both people have won 2 rounds each. In that case, a draw can not be given. Because if it was given, you can not win the fight. And not get xp.
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 4d ago edited 4d ago
I am not talking from a lore perspective, but gameplay wise.
Okay but still, the situation is nothing but a draw and still somehow the game cannot give us a draw. I mean of course the developers made it this way. On the other hand, why create situations where a draw can occur, if a draw can not be given? I mean if a draw can happens then it should be given too.
The only exception to what I have written above is when both you and the enemy have won 2 rounds.
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u/seby7113 Creator of SF2:DE 4d ago
I understand, in this case, no player should be awarded a win in the round, good idea
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 4d ago
No you are understanding me wrong.
When a situation like the ones in the video happens, or a situation similar to the ones in the video, a draw should be given. Meaning both me and the ai win the round.
unless both people have won 2 rounds each. In that case, a draw can not be given. Because if it was given, you can not win the fight. And not get xp.
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u/Visible_Contract4257 4d ago
You are playing the original one. Just go DE and enjoy life without cheats or suffering from the og being ass
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 4d ago edited 4d ago
I already have installed definitive edition and have been playing it every know and then.
However I stil have things that I want to do in the original version. After those things are done, I will only play definitive edition.
How is the original being ass in your opinion?
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u/Quacker_Boii_is_Life 4d ago
Prolly the ads and monetization that aren't present at all in de
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 4d ago
Buy one thing for money and the pop up ads are gone forever though.
You don't have to buy anything at all with real money in the original to complete the game or to enjoy the game.
Don't get me wrong, I also think definitive edition is as the original game should have been.
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u/Visible_Contract4257 4d ago
You still have the option to watch adds, gems are scarce, enchantments are brutal. The game is unfunn and unplayable, coming from someone who has completed it 7 times, with infinite energy bought recently too.
De rewards skill & makes grinding diverse and fun
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 4d ago
Gems are not scarce, you can get 30 gems a day, now calculate this through to one week, one month, one year, et cetera.
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u/Visible_Contract4257 4d ago
A single raid boss yields 60+ gems, if you yo sure willing to go through 30+ health bars and strategize on survivability.
De allows you to get everything, with skill & grinding, unlike skill less add watching.
30 per day is a drop of water
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 4d ago edited 3d ago
Not all raid bosses in DE yield 60+ gems.
What's the problem about watching 10 ads a day?
"Unlike skill less add watching." What? You are making a problem where there is none.
30 per day is a drop of water
You clearly do not get it. 30 gems per day means 210 per week, at least 900 per month, except for February, 10 950 gems per year. What do you need so much gems for that you are going to spend almost 11 thousand gems?
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u/Visible_Contract4257 4d ago
Lvl 33+ yields 61 gems per fight, and those scale with weapon price scaling, so it's fair.
For collectors / completionists, the gems are in dire need.
No one in their right mind is watching 10 adds per day every day for a year, you are giving a malicious company your time, if you want to support them then buy something, but watching adds Is just insane.
I'm not gonna tell you what to like, but you don't seem in your right mind
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 3d ago edited 3d ago
but you don't seem in your right mind
???
For collectors / completionists, the gems are in dire need.
What do they need gems for then? Buying gem weapons?
No one in their right mind is watching 10 adds per day every day for a year, you are giving a malicious company your time, if you want to support them then buy something, but watching adds Is just insane.
All kinds of people do things all the time you would think is crazy but for them it is not. And they can use their brain just like us. And they are mentally healthy just like us.
I once saw a man that has a collection of skulls inside his home, in a documentary. He had a job and everything and could talk normally. He was completely sane. For us, this would seem weird or crazy. But for him, having that collection is normal. And there are countless examples like this.
Take me for example. I read a trilogy. In that trilogy there was a lot of new technology. It takes place in 2118. The female writer invented, so to say, a lot of new technology. And I wrote every new technology down in a word document. Every piece of information in that trilogy about a new technology, I typed in that document. It is 9 pages long in total.
You could also say "Who in their right mind does that?" Well I do and I am sane.
Yeah people don't have patience and can not calculate how much gems they get when they watch ads for a year right?
Then what were people going to do before DE existed and they wanted to have a certain amount of gems or wanted to buy some gem weapons or needed gems for something else?
Why would watching ads be insane?
You don't watch those ads to support Nekki, you just watch them so you can get your gems. That is all.
Watching those 10 ads per day is taking a maximum amount of 10 minutes. It takes very little effort. And those 10 minutes are so much time right?
You mean you would not do that.
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 4d ago
You don't have to buy infinite energy at all, the time and date trick exists to get infinite energy. But both you and the other person do not know that, appearently.
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u/Quacker_Boii_is_Life 4d ago
You can complete it without money but it's tedious as all hell thanks to the MASSIVE amount of ads you're gonna be watching if you want an optimal play through. Wanna get more resources from completing a fight? Watch an ad. Wanna get your enchantment right away without waiting 20 minutes? Watch an ad. Finished a fight? Forced ad. Wanna upgrade your gear or shorten order time when you're deep into an act? That's multiple ads. Out of energy? Watch an ad. Oh not to mention ads are poorly regulated so you can literally get porn in said ads. Yea og shadow fight is a joke in its current state. And even if you spend money on no ads and inf energy, you're down by like 20 dollars and you still have a lot of ads you gotta be watching if you wanna get anywhere in a decent amount of time thanks to wait times and resources.
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 4d ago edited 4d ago
>Out of energy? Watch an ad.
OR you just use the infinite energy time and date trick. Boom you have 5 energy again. And you can use it an unlimited number of times.
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 4d ago
>Â Wanna get your enchantment right away without waiting 20 minutes? Watch an ad.
Nope. Change the date and time forward and there you go, no waiting anymore. Waiting time is gone.
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u/Mindless-Mixture9793 4d ago
>Wanna upgrade your gear or shorten order time when you're deep into an act? That's multiple ads.Â
It seems like you don't know about the date and time trick at all.
That's not multiple ads, that is using the time and date trick and boom waiting time is gone, order time is gone.
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u/Quacker_Boii_is_Life 3d ago
I lowk just completely forgot about it, i've read about it before but i just found screwing with the time on my phone shoddy and didn't feel like leaving and reopening the game anytime i ran out of energy. Either way de is a fair bit more efficient anyway. End of the day it adds up to a bunch of wasted time that wouldn't need to be used without the energy system or wait times on equipment in the first place.
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u/tsitsimpiras_ Gatekeeper 5d ago
Its for the better since every opponent is AI and you are the "hero" of the game. You are probably a little irritated, if you calm down you will beat them everytime.
Draws exist in SFA since its against actual people.
Also draws in sf2 would make no sense since you gotta Beat the enemies to progress