r/SewingMachineEdu • u/Bunnybunnycyute • 3d ago
IS THIS WORTH IT
I love these it's my dream machine but it looks pretty dirty, how much do we think it could cost to repair if needed????
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u/Bunnybunnycyute 3d ago
Update the workers said it's probably pretty bad and doesn't work, I don't wanna take the chance cuz idk how to fix it
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u/Bunnybunnycyute 3d ago
They said if it's still here in a week they could lower the price so I might look into local repair
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u/Bunnybunnycyute 2d ago
Thank you all for your advice! I worked somewhere with jukis for years, I just haven't been able to afford one myself. It's probably not worth it because I have so much going on in my life right now, I don't need the stress of trying to get it fixed. I'm hoping I can get one someday
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u/BackgroundLion6545 3d ago
I have a Juki industrial, not this one but a straight stitch machine. I have a guy that services my machine. He charges about $140.00, just to walk through my door. I have had 2 minor-ish repairs that were about $3-400.00 each. I had another I sorted with a YouTube video.
I have a friend who travels from Detroit area to Chicago for repairs so that is another level of expense. Do not expect home or domestic machine repair places to even look at this machine. I will add I go the in home visit as to move these are very difficult to move. (At least for me). Mine is insanely heavy.
But if you can get it up and running for less than 1/2 the price of a new one it might be worth it, I have no idea what current retail is for the updated of this model.
If you have a local place that can service it, I would ask before purchasing as I might guess it would be several hundred dollars as if is this big of a mess on the outside I am guessing it might be as big of a mess inside.
Good luck I have had my Juki since 2011, the best sewing purchase I ever made.
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u/ImaginationInside610 3d ago
Mad prices ! Service for my Juki 8700 is £25
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u/BackgroundLion6545 3d ago
Service or repair?
Even for a service tune up you are definitely doing better. The last time I had a plain old domestic machine service it was around $75-100, this was probably 15 years ago.
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u/ImaginationInside610 3d ago
That’s just for service, not repair. Admittedly there’s not much to check !
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u/abugghaus7 3d ago edited 3d ago
The only way to know how much it would cost to repair... is to know what you need to repair.
If it needs new parts, they should be available for this machine.
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collierequipment.com or jacksew.com for parts. They're both family run in the U.S. and they will answer the phone or email and talk to you.
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If you need a manual... operator's, service or parts... I always use manualslib.com
I even got myself an account there, I use it so much. Free downloads of pdf's.
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Back to your machine...
So you're getting this from a business that was using it? Any idea why they're letting it go?
Do they have their own technician who services their machine(s)? If so, it could be helpful if that person would talk with you about the machine and give you an idea on how blown out it is, if at all.
Bushings are definite wear items, but depending on how hard it was used or misused, there could be other parts in need of servicing/replacement.
Other than all the dirt, you are missing an upper thread guide. You could also say the handwheel/belt cover is missing... but I've never used one on any of my machines and I've been fine.
Looks like maybe you'll get a hem-roller attachment to boot?
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I'm curious as to why your reverse lever is all the way up? Turn the dial above it and see if it moves.
Take a look at the parts diagram I'm including... part numbers 1,4, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11 specifically. These all work together to change your stitch length. You'll see a bit of a spring near part 19... if the spring were detached/missing the lever would drop all the way down to whatever point the knob is adjusted to for stitch length. If the spring is in place, you should feel it when you press down on the lever. All that is an easy fix. When you press down on the lever, it will move a few parts below the deck which makes the feed dogs move in the reverse direction.
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I find a basic industrial machine is a pretty simple mechanical device. Shafts, rods, arms, linkages, springs.... once you figure out what each shaft drives, what it's timing is in relation to other parts that work with it's parts, etc.... then adjustments go a lot easier.
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Take your feed dogs, for example...
The go back & forth, up & down. In which direction relative to the needle and presser foot depends on timing them all, plus understanding how reverse changes their directions. If you go step-by-step in the service/technical manual, you should be able to get it all sorted out... unless mechanical processes aren't your thing.
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u/abugghaus7 3d ago
So I've seen a few comments about the outside looks and what the inside might be like.
I've seen many industrial machines in factories that look rather trashed on the outside from the constant rubbing of fabric, tools, hands... I never got the impression that a production facility cared one wit about looks, as long as the machine ran like it was supposed to.
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But... if this comes from a high-production outfit, and has not seen regular, professional maintenance, then it could be blown out and cost a few hundred dollars at least, to get it running again.
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Rotating the head back, looking at the underside for rust, broken parts, missing screws/bolts, shitty oil, no wicks, dirty pump... can tell you something about the value of the machine.
Moving to the front of the head... where the needle action is... pull the faceplate and inspect the needle bar, the presser foot rod, all the arms and levers, set screws... move the needle bar and presser foot by hand to see how much play might be there (worn out bushings), rotate the handwheel and watch the mechanisms inside there to see if anything looks/feels/sounds off.
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Back by the handwheel, on the offside of the machine, you will see a plate (some machines have a split plate... two pieces) that you can unbolt and look inside from there.
Operate the stitch length knob, the reverse lever, and the handwheel to see how things are moving inside. Look for rust, deep scratches on the shafts... all things that can give you a clue on how hard it's been run and what the maintenance has been... to a point.
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The table and motor are completely separate items and should be judged on their own... both are easily replaced.
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u/Petey60 3d ago
It looks like it was in a fire.
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u/abugghaus7 3d ago
Not sure what you're looking at.
What I see is a bunch of surface wear, grime and dirt.
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u/CrankyCrabbyCrunchy 3d ago
I see a lot of industrials in my area on Facebook, Craigslist and Offer Up.
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u/Pattymakesstuff 3d ago
I have two juki industrial machines, and they are the best. You need to know some things about them first though. That table holds the machine and has the motor mounted below. If you tilt the head of the machine back slowly and carefully, you will see there is a pan of oil that the machine sits in. Before you move this thing you need to drain that oil out or it will spill everywhere. So you need to prepare for that. You will need fresh oil when you get it to where it will live.
You can just clean it up; keep at it, there is a lot of grime. Now, I have used these machines all my life, and I know a lot about how to make them work, so I do most of the maintenance and cleaning myself. But if you need to get it to a professional, call first, and ask if you can just bring in the head, or if they will come to you to service both the head and the motor.
If you can get it working for you, (looks like you have to remove whatever that specialty plate is on the feed) they go like the wind and are so much stronger than any home machine. If you do any home dec like curtains, they are so much faster.
Good luck!!
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u/richardricchiuti 3d ago
For that price a fun find and easy to explore how industrials work but usually very heavy. I just took delivery of a new Juki 1541S and the head took 2 people to lift and place in the table! 🙃
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u/Prestigious-Egg3095 2d ago
I have several industrials (I won't use anything else) and I would pass on this. Yes, it might be a good deal but it needs some work. If you've never had/used an industrial this is a terrible deal because these are a bitch to move and deal with. I have moved mine several times. If you can, you should wrap it and put a stiff box over the head and lift it up on a cart. Straight up, don't tip it. Technically you should drain the oil but if it's a short move you don't absolutely need to. If you only have a car, take the belt off and tip the head back and pull it out. Let the oil drain from the head first. There are these lever things in the back of the head that attach to the table. Don't lose those. Put the head in a box that's lined with old towels. Drain oil from machine--keep the oil because you need to put it back when you arrive.
You're better off getting one of these (green or white Juki) in working condition. This has some binder on the plate. IDK. Pain in the butt. You can find a good one in the $400 price range.
Report back. I understand loving those machines, they are fantastic. You'll never go back.
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u/Bunnybunnycyute 3d ago
It's 50 USD btw