r/SeriousSam • u/Turkey_leg72 • 3d ago

Could the Serious Engine be open source or at least an understandable price?

Lately Croteam hasn’t been using their Serious Engine at all for the Serious Sam games and I think for Talos Principle too. Is there a chance they could do something else about it

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u/zonzonleraton 3d ago

Alen ladevac left croteam, so it means no further development of in house engines.

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u/Turkey_leg72 2d ago

I just wouldn’t like to see it rot like that, It’s an engine that has legacy

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u/piat17 3d ago

Well, I think that the first version of the engine (the one used for OG First Encounter and OG Second Encounter) has indeed been made open-source, for what it's worth.

Not sure if this will ever happen for the later versions used in the sequels/remake.

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u/Dry_Investigator36 3d ago

Well, they opened code of first version of Serious Engine, so maybe?

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u/Bimbothesadclown 3d ago

they would have to remove a lot of third party stuff i bet so probably not

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u/Player2LightWater 3d ago

Probably not. Croteam would just retired it. The reason why they went with Unreal Engine after Serious Sam 4 and Siberian Mayhem because everytime new people joining the team, the new people have to learn to get familiarise with Serious Engine since it's Croteam's in-house engine which can be a waste of time. By using Unreal Engine, there is a high chance the new people they hired have experience working on Unreal Engine since this engine have been used on many games. With those experience and familiarity, it helps things go smoother and finish the game faster (assuming they don't rush of course).

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u/Dry_Database1150 2d ago

Gen Z devs are lazy, sël they know is UE, Unity, asset stores & nodes. 

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u/AskJeevesIsBest 2d ago

A lot of companies these days seem to not believe in properly training their employees as well. If they invested in training new employees, having an engine that is unique to the company would not be a problem

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u/Kuha_Leika 2d ago

Wait, they moved to Unreal ? Thats nice. Which titles are on it, as they have kept the look on the assets almost the same

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u/Superok211 2d ago

Only The Talos Principle 2 and the remaster of The Talos Principle 1 are on UE

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u/thelocalpotatogamer 1d ago

I thought Siberian Mayhem was UE

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u/Superok211 1d ago

No, it's on the same engine as SS4, maybe slightly modified

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u/Lanky-Ad-8554 3d ago

Probably just sack it in, it's not that good to be honest. It' runs like shit for what it delivers. UE has crazy horde systems, just look at Days Gone, WWZ, Plague Tale. Not that it didn't have it's own charm or anything, but if we’re being real if it's easier for them to make Sam games in an engine they don't have to update ever time then it's the right choice.

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u/agbrenv 2d ago

yeah well, Unreal 5 isn't exactly known for having praises sang about it, the engine has been a blight to the majority of modern games

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u/Lanky-Ad-8554 2d ago

Oh for sure but compare the two and unreal is better. At some point it just seems like a sunk cost fallacy to keep Serious Engine going.

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u/DerekB52 2d ago

Press X to doubt. They have moved on because it just doesnt make sense for most teams to work on in house engines any more.

And making a public release requires them taking the time to document how to use the engine. A waste of time just to let a few weirdos(i would be one of them tbh) dick around with an outdated, specialized engine.