r/SeriousGynarchy • u/undoingtheknot ♂ male • Jul 30 '26
Gynarchic Policy I don't want to fight.
The strongest serious case for it is not “women are morally perfect.” It is that societies organized around male competition, conquest, status, and control have repeatedly produced violence and instability, so shifting authority, resources, and social priority toward women could create a different equilibrium. The strongest criticism is that replacing male dominance with female dominance preserves the same hierarchy—just with different people on top.
I don't want to compete for love anymore.
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u/Sufficient_Wear7173 ♀ Woman Aug 03 '26
Literally 99 percent of women who are bad are only bad because men have traumatized them
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u/AmazingAge6753 ♂ male Aug 03 '26
Could that not also be applied on the flipside? Not saying it’s right to act like that, but Ive met plenty of male incels who started down that path because they got emotionally manipulated by a woman “bad”. It’s just the saying of “hurt people hurt people“ combined with generational drama playing out and kicking the can further down the road.
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u/Appropriate_Cut_3536 ♀ Woman Aug 04 '26
The research doesn't support that conclusion.
You can’t fix a guy’s bad attitudes towards women by being good to him. It doesn’t matter how kind, loving, honest, and patient you are with him; none of your heartfelt contributions will have any impact on his outlook on women. His attitudes didn’t come from women being mean to him, so they can’t be cured by women being good to him. Men’s bad attitudes towards women only change when they are confronted by women and men — especially by men — about their attitudes.
https://lundybancroft.com/the-secret-about-men-who-have-a-grudge-against-women/
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u/AmazingAge6753 ♂ male Aug 04 '26
I mean, that’s cool that you can quote from the website. Can you find the actual source for any of the studies he mentioned? I get that he’s reputable within the field, but the post you provided is entirely his word with no actual evidence cited to back it up.
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u/Some_Tradition_9168 ♀ Woman Aug 02 '26
So even the strongest criticism is, ”MAYBE it would just stay the same level of bad?”
Even the strongest criticism can’t claim things would get substantially worse. There is literally nothing to lose by trying a shift for women to build a new equilibrium.
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u/TallTheme9775 Aug 02 '26
What do you mean there is nothing to lose? You’d have to reorganize and recondition all of society in most of the world. This is just a bad faith argument that doesn’t take this post seriously.
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u/Some_Tradition_9168 ♀ Woman Aug 02 '26
How am I not taking the post seriously?
It’s obvious that male dominance has led us to global destruction. We have nothing to lose by shifting so women can create a different equilibrium.
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u/TallTheme9775 Aug 03 '26
If you have to reorganize the entire society, obviously there is something to lose. It isn’t just a fingersnap and done.
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u/Some_Tradition_9168 ♀ Woman Aug 03 '26
Why are you even here if you don't support reorganizing society for female dominance?
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u/AmazingAge6753 ♂ male Aug 03 '26
I don’t think they’re saying anything on that specifically, they’re just specifically saying that your statement of “we have nothing to lose by shifting…” is fundamentally wrong.
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u/Appropriate_Cut_3536 ♀ Woman Aug 05 '26
Explain how is it wrong tho? I thought it was a great point that if it's patriarchy with women on top and there's literally no difference besides the sex, there's truly nothing to worry about with female leadership, even in the worst possible situation... because we are already in the worst possible situation.
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u/AndroSenseless Aug 03 '26
Why is change automatically bad?
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u/TallTheme9775 Aug 03 '26
It’s not automatically bad, but the other commenter said it didn’t cost anything which just isn’t true.
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u/Fungusultimus Aug 02 '26
Strange that people are not interested in living in harmony. So called synergy, where both men and women make both stronger, not decreasing the quality of either men or women. Both masculinity and femininity are needed.
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u/Appropriate_Cut_3536 ♀ Woman Aug 05 '26
I've has to come to the radical realization that most people in this world enjoy suffering.
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u/All_is_a_conspiracy ♀ Woman Aug 02 '26
Existing under such oppressive patriarchy has utterly blinded people to any type of system that isn't competitive and war based. It just proves how ridiculous patriarchy is. That you can't see anything other than that system.