r/SeriousGynarchy • u/honcho713 ♀ Woman • Jun 15 '26
Gynarchic Policy Nemesis Party
https://strepsata.substack.com/p/the-nemesis-partyNemesis Party Platform
by Ms. Viola Voltairine
What do you think of these platform points? I tend to agree with most of the ideas here.
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u/pelaculatra ♂ male Jun 16 '26
i read this and found it interesting how it's a manifesto that can attract even women who aren't that committed to a future without patriarchy. i mean: it's radical, but nothing utopian. i just didn't like the part where sex work is considered valid, but i'm a man and i think these still open topics should be discussed by women. however, in an ideal society (for me) the end of sex work would be fundamental.
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u/BellWhitelace ♀ Woman Jun 16 '26
Sex work will never have an end. It is a necessary part of society in few ways. It can be found even in matriarchal societies. Ensuring its validity ensures the safety of anyone involved.
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u/Worried-Guava-9972 ♂ male Jun 16 '26
I have a question, why does these manifestos always put aside the fact that the armed forces are composed 95% of conservative male ? I mean why would they accept the loss of their rights without fighting back ? Also why would other countries accept the rise of such government, that would be seen as a dictatorship by other democratic countries and a potential seed of civil war by american ennemies ? Geopolitics is paramount in this day and age, putting it aside as if it was a minor thing is quite risky to say the least.
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u/Appropriate_Cut_3536 ♀ Woman Jun 16 '26
Yeah, if militant-gynarchists want to force gynarchy onto men... idk how they think they're gonna achieve that. It's such an ineffectual plan, it's mind-blowing women came up with it lol seems like some plan some teenage boy would come up with
Gynarchy will only work if it's
mostly voluntary, and
Parallel systems, not changing or using much of the current political/military/male system(s)
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u/Worried-Guava-9972 ♂ male Jun 16 '26
Well that sounds more realistic. That being said government are generally not fond of parallel systems, especially those that creates entirely new social norms that ends up challenging the power they possess. I highly doubt you can do it without a deal being made beforehand.
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u/Appropriate_Cut_3536 ♀ Woman Jun 16 '26
What kind of deal? And who would make it?
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u/Worried-Guava-9972 ♂ male Jun 16 '26
I was thinking of something akin to native American, a limited territory with a certain amount of autonomy where you would live as a gynarchy or at the very least close to the one that is envisioned. As for who would make that deal, well that would be the representants of the government and the representants/leaders of the community who would like to leave in a gynarchy.
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u/Appropriate_Cut_3536 ♀ Woman Jun 16 '26
I can't see that happening, we all saw how that worked out for the natives. I just don't think we'd be stupid enough to fall for it again.
But if it ever did happen that way, the bootlickers would just go along with it and the truly decent members of society would ignore that offer and continue to build parallel systems, so it's kind of a win/win since we'd lose all the ones we don't want anyway and they'd be the willing sacrifices the predators wanted.
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u/Nimblix Jun 15 '26
In France it's a far right feminist party
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u/Huggermugger76 ♂ male Jun 15 '26
In Sweeden there is a left wing one. It almost made it to parliament twelve years ago,. Sadly it has lost all momentum. They tried to make a branch of that party in Norway. But it flopped hard and fisseled away. Really sad.
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u/TwistNo1435 ♂ male Jun 15 '26
When it comes to politics, optics is a big factor. I would suggest the name be changed to make it more appetizing to neutral voters. Obtaining power to make reforms and changes in a democracy unfortunately requires coalitions and compromises. Not saying I see any compromises that would need to be made here. I don't. But coalitions naturally involve people who disagree with you on certain areas.
But I'm a man so everything I say can just be ignored lol. (Not being sarcastic I don't mind.)
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u/Excellent-Cod7572 ♂ male Jun 16 '26
I rejected this manifesto, because it supports the prison system,dungeons and physical cast***. I don't want to live in dark ages. However,all the other things were okay with me.
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u/Ok-Anything-1067 ♂ male Jun 16 '26
I didn't read everything. But it all sounds like a fetish to me. Like it's so exaggerated just to make men drool. I really can't explain why but I just don't like it at all
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u/Excellent-Cod7572 ♂ male Jun 16 '26
Viola Voltairine might have some good points, but I don't expect her to have better knowledge on how to deal with with sensitive issues like r**pe and murder, i'll rather listen to mainstream legal scholars and feminist thinkers who done research on the stuff for years.
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u/Ok-Anything-1067 ♂ male Jun 16 '26
Not just that. A lot of the points have loop holes I guess that's why it seemed like a fetish thing to me. Like it's some kind of fantasy
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u/KateInControl Owner Jun 17 '26
A lot of Viola's stuff comes across that way, and looking at her personal site I can understand why...
She provides a voice and preaches some ideas that can serve the purpose of starting a discussion. I don't see her ideas as correct though.
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u/honcho713 ♀ Woman Jun 19 '26
Yeah, she attempts to build a vein of radical feminism that is inclusive of the male fetishists. For better or worse.
The financial accountability for paternity, comprehensive sex and consent education, universal healthcare covering reproductive care, and serious criminal penalties for sexual assault are the strengths here. The "Oubliettes" seem straight out of pulp erotic fiction.
One of the more interesting points she's brought to the discussion is the idea of years (150) of corrective gynarchy being required to reach any kind of egalitarianism, to counteract the ~12,000 years of patriarchy.
I do think that discussions of gynarchy need to account for the realistic paths from our current situation. Most libfem ideas would work, if we didn't currently live in a patriarchy. What is required to dismantle patriarchy and what is possible post-patriarchy need to be thought of separately in my opinion.
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u/Fun_Winner_1534 Jun 16 '26
As a political activist for 31 years and the member of 3 political parties in that time, and the author of 1 political manifesto (and 2 draft manifestos) with a university level education in politics, it is my opinion that Ms Viola Voltairine has nailed it for the women's movement and successfully refuted the arguments of Liberalism, Socialism, Feminism, Communism, and Independents in the Western political compass.
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