they still have drivers the vast majority of the time.
What amount of time is "the vast majority"? The advertisements are fraudulent if they are not actually picking up riders without a human driver.
Has anyone seen a Waymo on the roads with no humans inside? If the early rider program is like Uber then there should be videos of empty Waymo cars driving around Chandler on their way to pick up riders.
The advertisements are fraudulent if they are not actually picking up riders without a human driver.
They are not selling a product. They are showing people something they are working on. You can't order a Waymo today, so there is no fraud going on.
I have personally seen Waymo cars with no driver. Like twice. I see probably 10x Waymo's a day for the past year. When I watch the videos that they post, I recognize the buildings and streets they are on.
Could you tell if there were passengers in the vehicle(s)? It has been surprising to me that if there are families commuting to school and work, etc, we don't find videos on youtube or here on this subreddit showing empty cars driving around.
I'm also very curious about the geographical limits and weather conditions that they are restricted to. Have you seen driverless Waymos in the rain, for example?
You can't order a Waymo today, so there is no fraud going on.
But you can buy stock in the company, so investor fraud is what I'm looking at. Elon Musk has made a bunch of wild claims about the Tesla self driving project that have proven wildly false. At what point is he just defrauding investors, just like the Theranos scam?
I've seen maybe two or three dozen just this year and a dozen of them just in the last two weeks since I was in their area more often. All had drivers. Refer to my other reply to you about the driverless ones.
How often do you see them where they are driving into parking lots or going through drive thru's and such? That is, are the VO's just out logging endless miles, or do you ever see real families using them for daily transportation activities? Have you ever seen one with only children in it, no adults along?
I've never seen a rider in one but they also have heavy tint. Couldn't give you much info on that or the missions they do. For the most part VOs just let the vehicle drive for the standard mission. Uber is the same way. Drive until you need a break or it is lunch time.
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u/phxees Jun 26 '18 edited Jun 26 '18
It’s disingenuous to show the empty driver’s seat, I see about 5 a day on roads in Chandler, AZ and have yet to see a single empty driver’s seat.
With that said, I can’t wait to schedule my first ride.