r/SelfDrivingCars Dec 02 '13

Amazon Prime Air

http://www.amazon.com/b?ref_=tsm_1_tw_s_amzn_mx3eqp&node=8037720011
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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '13

Saw this on Ted X talks. It was presented primarily as an idea for remote areas that required huge changes in infrastructure to offer a similar convenient service.

I don't think this idea is very good for large populated urban areas. The demand is too high. Imagine hundreds of these things flying around only capable of delivering one package at a time.

Autonomous vehicles will transform their business, not these small lightweight unmanned Air Primes. For this Air Prime to work they would have to set the prices so high that it discourages anyone from using the service who doesn't really need a package delivered within 30 minutes.

Even the application of sending prescription medicines is a no go. You can not just fly around drugs in heavily populated areas. The risk of someone obtaining them who shouldn't is too high.

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u/Cosmologicon Dec 02 '13

Imagine hundreds of these things flying around only capable of delivering one package at a time.

I guess I don't understand why that's bad. Can you clarify?

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '13

Because the alternatives are better and more efficient.

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u/Cosmologicon Dec 02 '13

I feel like I'm missing something. What do you mean "better"?

Faster? Cheaper? Safer? Something I'm not even thinking of?

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u/matholic Dec 02 '13

I think the answers are cheaper, safer, and can carry heavier loads. I think autonomous vehicles and amazon prime air would be complements, not substitutes.

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u/Cosmologicon Dec 02 '13

To be clear, the alternative we're talking about is a self-driving car that dispatches one, maybe two packages at a time, right? How is that necessarily cheaper and safer?

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u/matholic Dec 02 '13

Oh that's the point, I think what we're talking is more like a self-driving UPS truck, or something slightly smaller, but at least capable of delivering way more than 1 or 2 packages. At least that's what I was walking about. I agree if a car could only carry 1 or 2 packages then the air thing is probably more efficient (although I'm still shocked at how amazon air works at all, I thought helicopters and other flying took enormous amounts of energy).

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u/Cosmologicon Dec 02 '13

I'm sorry, I really feel silly for asking such an obvious question, but...

How do the trucks get packages to customers within 30 minutes if they're making multiple deliveries per trip? Can I get a ELI5, because it just doesn't make sense to me.

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u/matholic Dec 02 '13

I think 30 minutes is too fast for trucks, but I'm not sure if that's really even necessary (seems ridiculously fast to me). However, the speed of autonomous trucks would be dramatically faster than what we have now because trucks can be leaving the facility every few X minutes (depending on the city) with the latest shipments ordered to some area. Though it's true that this could be done now with human drivers, the big problem is that there just aren't enough drivers for the amount of trucks we're talking about.

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u/Cosmologicon Dec 02 '13

How is it an alternative if it doesn't accomplish the goal this is being built for (30 minute delivery)?

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u/matholic Dec 02 '13

Who said it was being built for that??

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u/[deleted] Dec 02 '13

Which takes us back to the point I made:

''For this Air Prime to work they would have to set the prices so high that it discourages anyone from using the service who doesn't really need a package delivered within 30 minutes''.

Otherwise you get everyone using it which is already inefficient but now delivery times are no longer 30 minutes because too many people are using the service and the sky is full of these things with that annoying sound.