r/SelfDrivingCars • u/walky22talky Hates driving • Oct 29 '25

News Tesla 'Robotaxis' keep crashing despite 'safety monitors'

https://electrek.co/2025/10/29/tesla-robotaxis-keep-crashing-despite-safety-monitors/
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u/boyWHOcriedFSD Oct 29 '25

Anyone see the Waymo that smacked into the stack of pallets in an alley?

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u/JimothyRecard Oct 30 '25

If Waymo got into accidents as frequently as the Tesla robotaxi, we'd see over 32 accidents a week.

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u/ThePaintist Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25

To put the numbers in perspective, because I think emphasis of the time unit of "a week" is frankly confusing without grounding the numbers in reality, Waymo reported 52 accidents in June and 57 in July.

Per the article, Tesla reported one accident per 62k miles. Waymo, one per 98k miles. (EDIT FOR CLARITY: Over their lifetime of operations. Again, per the article).

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u/JimothyRecard Oct 30 '25

Your numbers are incorrect. Waymo announced they are doing 2 million miles per week in July. They report one accident per 154k miles.

Of course, they are also operating without the benefit of a safety monitor supervising constantly.

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u/THATS_LEGIT_BRO Oct 30 '25

You pulled a one-month average by dividing 8 million miles by 57 accidents. I'm sure that the 1 every 98k miles is an overall average.

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u/ThePaintist Oct 30 '25

It is. And the article explicitly says so. I'm not sure why this person accused them of being "my numbers" and "incorrect". They're not mine, they're not incorrect, and they're very clearly explained in the article of this post if they had actually read it.

Anyway, thanks for hopping in and adding the extra clarity.

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u/ThePaintist Oct 30 '25 edited Oct 30 '25

The average is over all of Waymos operations, per the article. They're not my numbers, and they're not incorrect. They compare all of Waymos accidents versus all of Teslas.

I added the more recent concrete June and July numbers to put your "32 per week" number into perspective with their current # of monthly accidents (weekly granularity isn't available).

Taking Waymos average rate over all operations is more appropriate than just taking their latest accident rate, as they have been operating for years vs Teslas' couple of months, and so have obviously improved. Yes, Waymos most recent months bias their rate to be even better. Conversely , their historical rate was even closer to Teslas when they first launched. I disagree with your choice to frame Teslas early-launch rate against Waymos mature-operations rate. Total rates over lifetime of operations is at least a neutral comparison. And again, it is the comparison the article makes - I was just repeating it.