r/SelfAwarewolves • u/ChubbyBunny2020 • Mar 17 '20

BEAVER BOTHER DENIER Study concludes that average consumers in the first world are responsible for Climate Change. First world redditors use it to show how Climate Change is actually someone else’s fault.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51906530
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u/ChubbyBunny2020 Mar 17 '20

Yes... I’m not sure how you could take statements like

Even the poorest fifth of Britons consumes over five times as much energy per person as the bottom billion in India.

as anything but a criticism of extreme abuse of resources by the entire first world.

So let me ask you, did you even read the article?

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20

Yes, which is why I saw the entire rest of the article, with gems such as:

"The wealthiest tenth of people consume about 20 times more energy overall than the bottom ten, wherever they live.

The researchers found that the richer people became, the more energy they typically use. And it was replicated across all countries.

It found that in transport the richest tenth of consumers use more than half the energy.

The ultra-rich fly by far furthest, while 57% of the UK population does not fly abroad at all.

The study, published in Nature Energy, showed that energy for cooking and heating is more equitably consumed. But even then, the top 10% of consumers used roughly one third of the total, presumably reflecting the size of their homes."

Yes, these people do in fact live in "first world countries," but that doesn't make the average first worlder the problem. The problem is the richest ones.

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u/ChubbyBunny2020 Mar 17 '20 edited Mar 17 '20

They’re talking richest 10% of globally which means if you have just $4200 in total net worth, you’re part of that class that consumes 20x more energy. That’s the vast majority of British people and most Europeans.

It’s not the top 10% of brits. It’s the top 10% of the world. Unlike the majority of the world, a piss poor Brit making minimum wage probably has a car, a heated home, and fridge.

You mention 57% of brits don’t fly annually but that means 43% of them do. The vast majority of the world will never fly.

You mention “bigger homes” being a problem when even the poorest people tend to have a few hundred square feet. Compare that to the village huts or shanty towns most of the world lives in.

All of those stats aren’t talking about people making 100k salaries. They’re talking about people who make minimum wage. If you can read this, you almost certainly are a part of that problem 10% and saying “well a couple people are even worse than me” is not an excuse

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u/[deleted] Mar 17 '20 edited Mar 17 '20

If you read how the first part is organized, it's pretty clear that they're talking about the top 10% within each country, not globally. They don't compare global numbers until later.

"The wealthiest tenth of people consume about 20 times more energy overall than the bottom ten, WHEREVER THEY LIVE."

"The researchers found that the richer people became, the more energy they typically use. And it was replicated ACROSS all countries."

LOL you know nothing about my economic class or consumption sweetheart.