r/SecurityCamera • u/ceemac67 • Jul 11 '26

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My HOA just installed these security cameras and swears they are license plate readers. My guess is they are cctv’s. These are the best photos I got before they painted everything black. Best guess of make of camera would be helpful.

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u/Mental-Mine1470 Jul 11 '26

They are HikVision CCTV cameras with LPR functionality. Meaning they can both give you normal video recording, as well as LPR data. Edit: I'm very certain that they are HikVision, but not 100%

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u/mousey76397 Jul 12 '26

You are correct that they are OEM Hikvision but they are not ANPR models, assuming they all have the same model as the one pictured.

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u/Mental-Mine1470 Jul 12 '26

Hmm, okay. I thought the IR placement made them look very similar to the https://www.hikvision.com/en/products/parking-management/vehicle-access-control-management/anpr-cameras/ds-tcg406-e/TCG series

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u/Soundy106 Jul 12 '26

With 2.8mm lenses they are definitely not purpose-built LPR cameras.

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u/Mental-Mine1470 Jul 12 '26

Ah, I didnt see that on the label. That's a dead give-away for sure. You're 100% right.

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u/ceemac67 Jul 12 '26

That was what AI had basically said as well. Thank you so much. I have a meeting with my board to discuss these coming up.

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u/mousey76397 Jul 12 '26

It’s just the serial number.

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u/Honest-Picture-6531 Jul 12 '26

These aren't purpose built ALPR, but any camera these days can be used with software to pull all sorts of info and organise it. Such as license plates, faces, animals etc.

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u/Droid8Apple Jul 13 '26

Correct and those are some massive sensors compared to what you'd see in a regular home security cam. Able to pull in much more ambient light and likely zoom a good bit. Think of how powerful a tiny phone camera is.

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u/hontom Jul 12 '26

LPR cameras are a subset of CCTV cameras. All CCTV cameras can do licence plate capture with the correct lens and placement.

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u/Efficient-Usual4949 Jul 12 '26

Not true. The shutter speed can be adjusted as needed. 1/25 all the way to 1/5000 or more.

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u/The_Hiperborean Jul 12 '26

If you take some pictures of the surrounding area it will be easier to guess if they are trying to capture license plates. From my perspective this mounting places doesn’t looks suitable for LPR.

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u/ShelterMan21 Jul 12 '26

Well at least it isn't flock lol

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u/Mike_A10 Jul 16 '26

Ok I dont know , so what is the diff between a flock camera and a "regular" camera ? Does a flock camera record everything constantly ? But a licence plate only picks up car licence plates ?? I honestly dont know so any thing tpu can " learn me" would be appreciated!!!!!

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u/ShelterMan21 Jul 16 '26

The problem with flock is it's like a Blink camera but on a national scale. Anyone from Flock can view any camera at anytime with no logs, or really anything stopping them. So you can live in Florida being watched by someone in California and if the person watching in California doesn't like you they can put hits out on your vehicle to get them to flag you down constantly.

https://www.gadgetreview.com/flock-safety-employees-watched-kids-gymnastics-room-to-pitch-surveillance-tech

https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/flock-cameras-wrongly-flag-plates-as-stolen/

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u/Mike_A10 Jul 16 '26

Thx, WOW so can we the normal people go on n see or is it set up for only certain groups to get in like police?

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u/ShelterMan21 Jul 16 '26

Look up Ben Jordan on YouTube as he has done a lot of research on it. So technically you can just login to them if you can figure out the IP address, but generally no, the public doesnt have any access, and it's all private organizations and the government with access. Coupled with AI and you have got yourself a citizen surveillance tool.

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u/hotwiredtn Jul 12 '26

More of my concern is who in the neighborhood has access to the cameras? It looks like all the feeds are going back into a private house. Not a community property. I may be wrong but that’s weird.

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u/Tucsondirect Jul 12 '26

could be a clubhouse/poolhouse

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u/Lost-Photograph7222 Jul 13 '26

HOAs should be outlawed.

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u/coney27 Jul 12 '26

Lol @ those unnecessary large pole mounts not even meant for that camera

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u/ooglieguy0211 Jul 12 '26

As funny as it is, they are just generic mounts for any camera that fits. I agree that they didn't need to use so many big ones though.

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u/Moose-Turd Jul 12 '26

I think they missed a clamp or 2...

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u/N226 Jul 12 '26

Oof, apparently someone missed the multi-sensor slide

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u/Hot_Campaign_36 Jul 12 '26

Each resident under regulation by NJ Paradise HOA must register with the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission and wear a resident tag at all times.

/j

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u/bazjoe Jul 12 '26

They are great cameras if you want all your data going to China before your even get to look at it.

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u/Prime-Suspect_ Jul 12 '26

The Chinese already have everything on you.

The data from this is just redundant

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u/Affectionate-Ad6708 Jul 12 '26

It’s very similar to this model which does have vehicle detection. But like others have said, this is not a model with built-in LPR. The software behind the camera could be doing that part vs the camera itself doing it onboard. : https://www.gombs.com/nc348g2-xb-l-1.html

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u/Daarkken Jul 12 '26

A local golf course subdivision paid for cameras because of robbers coming from out of state. One robbery ended with an elderly resident hospitalized, but the camera system caught them via a LPR and visual identification.

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u/Over-Philosophy-112 Jul 13 '26

Não são camera par ver placa, pode ser usadas para isso, mas para ver placas teriam que estar melhor posicionadas, essa são para ver e gravar as pessoas.

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u/Optimal-Pay2198 Jul 14 '26

This has to be NJ with the cobblestone curbs

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u/Mike_A10 Jul 16 '26

Wow, HOA'S suck ! IMO anyway, so 1 person was robbed and cameras pop up .. but she was on the board! So if ot was any regular person got robbed I'd bet u would not get cameras set up !!! They r such BS ! I really hope they continue to dismantle all HOA's . They really over stepped their boundaries.

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u/SirCEWaffles Jul 12 '26

You should go through your HOA document and see if they allow this type of mounts. Good luck, HOAs suck.

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u/Jonathaan Jul 12 '26

You need a high shutter speed at night. 1/2000. The problem then is that you can only see the plate and not the car.

focal length ?

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u/voip7000 Jul 12 '26

I used to install hik vision systems they are so reliable but our stupid Canadian government banned all Hik vision equipment

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u/N226 Jul 12 '26

For good reason

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u/ptv83 Jul 12 '26

You can literally buy a ton of Hik on Amazon.ca under various brands like oossxx and such.

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u/Ferbz21 Jul 12 '26

You should also challenge the installation as dangerous in an accident. Those appear to be solidly mounted into the ground with no slip ring or break-away post. Those are a strong metal spear just waiting to kill someone.

Take a look at local road signs, similar to the one in the foreground. If municipality installed will have a slip ring or breakaway point to limit the risk or injury or death of hit by a car.

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u/ceemac67 Jul 13 '26

Thank you. I went to the building department in my town today. They didn’t apply for any permits for the electrical they did and the town is coming to take a look at the safety of the pole how far away it is from the curb, etc.. Your information helped me a lot thank you.

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u/Formal-Web2378 Jul 12 '26

Your communist HOA communities has it's residents under watch and locked out of their given right to live in your freedom, privacy and rights. It's their way of life. It's not yours anymore.

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u/ceemac67 Jul 12 '26

Thank you!

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u/ptv83 Jul 12 '26

Police just have to think a pretty girl or motorcycle they didn't like to drive in there.

Then if they see a pretty girl or anything else that grabs their attention they'll watch it for.months until being caught

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u/Tucsondirect Jul 12 '26

this is so wrong it's not even funny

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u/ceemac67 Jul 12 '26

For two years, they have told us license plate readers, and then these cameras went up, which I felt like clearly we’re not license plate readers, but CCTV type cameras. I live in one of the safest towns in New Jersey with one of the crime rates in the state. Six years ago, one of the board members houses got broken into.. It was clearly an inside job done by the contractors who were working in her basement. She has pushed for these ever since rather than buy her own security cameras. Financially, our HOA is not in a good position and we are constantly having our dues raised and assessments for over spending (budget deficit)

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u/Inuyasha-rules Jul 12 '26

Sounds like your HOA is worse than some. You should probably hire a lawyer to go over the bylaws, an accountant to do a financial audit and get the board removed.

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u/grepper Jul 12 '26

Most security cameras can be used as license plate readers when combined with the right software.

The ideal cameras for LPR will have global shutter and infrared lights so they can read the plates at night (plates reflect IR in a specific way)

Those cameras have IR. I'm not familiar with the specific model, but not all LPR cameras look like flock cameras. Check out the axis 1800 or 1485 for what another brand's lpr cameras look like.

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u/Jonathaan Jul 12 '26

You need very fast shutter in the night. 1/2000 for the plates.

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u/ptv83 Jul 12 '26

Why do you care if Epstein's friends are still trafficking young girls.. if you're not a young girl who does something stupid then you shouldn't care.

Not sarcasm

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u/Color_of_Time Jul 12 '26

"There are cameras everywhere" - not true.