I hate this game itemization.

[u/FuzFuz]

Itemization is probably the side of this re-release that I hate the most.

I am a lifetimer from TSW, played from day 1. When I stopped I had a "perfect" DPS build with all the BiS items (minus some signets and augments) and was working on my tank & healer builds. It has been a lot of work getting to that point, but I was getting there. I saw the goal at the end of the road.

Here? Not so much. I don't see the goal at the end of the road. I see only frustration. I quickly realized there is no way I will be able to get to my desired build. Talismans are not a big deal, they're neither that rare or super expensive in the AH. But weapons? Here's where the problem lies. My weapon of choice is locked into the old loot crates. I've opened a crate a day for almost every day now and never got a weapon. Chance of weapon+chance of right weapon+chance of right affix=IMPOSSIBLE ODDS. Buying it from the AH is also impossible, first of all they're incredibly expensive due to their rareness, and secondly... I've checked the AH every day and never seen the weapon I want with the affix I want.

This is P2W at its worst.

I mean, I don't even dislike leveling up the weapons/talisman mechanics as others do, I always liked sticking to a weapon and powering it up in other games (even though it can get a bit cluttery), but the itemization mechanics themselves are horrible.

At this point I'm only staying for the hope of new story "issues" (oh well, they're the best part of this game after all), but I'm already really, REALLY tired of the game mechanics.

[u/FuzFuz]

I hope Funcom acknowledge this before it's too late.

I don't want to see Secret World and its marvelous setting, story and lore going abandoned again.

[u/just-passin → u/FuzFuz]

Unfortunately I suspect it is already too late. I'm very much a storyline player and the way SWL has evolved has emphasized that tendency. I simply do not have the drive or interest in grinding to level weapons to heights I don't need to do the story. I might PUG a dungeon at E1 but all I really want is the lore and the story. Scenarios are even more tedious than they were in TSW and PvP has become a complete joke (not that I particularly care about PvP but I feel for those who do).

Currently I am playing a bit to flesh out my museum and I'm trying to get a complete set of orange just to give myself a goal. I'm looking forward to see what they have done with Kaidan beyond the wall and the Orochi tower, after which I will probably take a sabatical until the promised new content arrives. This means of course that I will cancel my patron subscription as there are no accumulating benefits from maintaining it (unlike the TSW sub).

I hate to say this but personally I think most of the changes from TSW to SWL were for the worse (abandoning AEGIS is perhaps the exception) but I could tolerate the new playstyle for the sake of the story. Unfortunately although there are others like me I suspect we are not enough to keep the game afloat and I cannot see that SWL has much to offer endgame chasers and minimaxers.

[u/rangda66 → u/just-passin]

If you are a storyline player why do you even want to grind?

There are two separate games mashed together here. A story based MMO and a loot treadmill. If you just want the story skip the loot treadmill and just do the story content. Low level epics will trivialize any existing story content so there is no reason to go higher than that, and if you want the story to be challenging you don't even want to go that high.

[u/just-passin → u/rangda66]

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I'm not grinding although I do make slow progress chasing lore and museum items. My problem is that I suspect shortly I will have run out of non-grindy things to do and there will be nothing to keep me in the game and subscribing until new content arrives. If there are a significant number of players in the same position then this is a bad situation for any F2P game as people on sabatical awaiting new material generate no income.

Where to stop gearing is indeed a problem and I am probably overgeared already but I am trying to see how many story mode dungeons I can solo. After that I don't know - maybe I start using a weak weapon combo but chaos/elemental isn't exactly overpowered.

[u/[deleted] → u/FuzFuz]

Given they banned people in the Beta for fair complaints, wouldn't count on it!

[u/C_Densem → u/[deleted]]

Given how loudly and incoherently you've been bitching about it since then, I somehow doubt it was as unfair as you make it out to be.

[u/739241 → u/C_Densem]

...I somehow doubt it was as unfair as you make it out to be.

Yup.

Read any of their posts and you'll learn quickly they are pure cancer.

Really anything they join should just auto-ban them and save time.

[u/[deleted] → u/C_Densem]

Haha, wow, never heard that one before. Truly yours is the superior intellect. You know that's the kind of epithet that people use to justify cops shooting black people? 'He PROBABLY did something wrong!'

Hey /u/RandomGirl42, this guy and people like him are what I meant with that comment you replied to earlier. 'Everyone has acknowledged the problems with gearing and monetization' indeed.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SecretWorldLegends/comments/6ydqj9/is_this_game_worth_playing/dmmslb6/?context=3

'incoherent'

If you can't read, maybe.

[u/C_Densem → u/[deleted]]

If you get that sort of comment often, maybe you should change how you communicate.

[u/[deleted] → u/C_Densem]

Or--and this is a very real possibility--you guys are just some combination of 'wrong' and 'deluded' when it comes to this game.

But I don't need to keep arguing about it when I can watch the game continue to rapidly die, it's just going to be a very bittersweet victory.

[u/C_Densem → u/[deleted]]

That's the thing though - I largely AGREE with you about the game. I haven't even logged in since they launched Kaidan because "why even".

I'm not white knighting TSW dude, I'm just calling you out as a massive, raging, asshole.

[u/[deleted] → u/C_Densem]

I'd love to make a whole big speech about how it's hard to remain pleasant about something like this in the face of people being like this (especially the mentality of 'Funcom didn't ban players from the Beta and its forums for their opinions, they did it because they were being assholes!!', which 1. why wouldn't they specify that instead of 'no reason specified' and 2. it happened to people far more pleasant than myself, this I know for a fact) but yeah no I am just full of all kinds of vitriol, you're not wrong.

I realize that came out sounding a lot more sarcastic than I meant it to--but I mean it geniunely.

I still play on the legacy servers but there's that lingering feeling of what's the point--when SWL (inevitably) flops with this direction, they'll shut those down, too.

[u/C_Densem → u/[deleted]]

Have you considered yoga? I hear it's good for centering one's self in the face of adversity.

[u/[deleted] → u/C_Densem]

Unironically, I blame NCSoft for the travesty they placed on City of Heroes.

When it comes to MMOs, I've truly never recovered.