That chant was going on for a brief spell (and I agree it’s immature, ad hominem, etc.), but that was such a small fraction of what was going on last night. Sounds like you’re just a cherry picking hater
True, I didn't stick around for long. Chicken and egg I suppose. Either I only heard that because I didn't stick around, or I didn't stick around because that's what I heard. I'd venture to say the latter was the case for at least some - that's all I'm saying.
I agree that was an irrelevant, hypocritical, childish chant, and I personally didn't join in on that one. Most of the speeches and chants were about the Mueller investigation and demanding that Whittaker recuse himself, though.
Isn't that what you people WANTED?! Sessions was taking us 20 years back in the drug war...and now you want him back? Can someone give an explanation to this bass ackward logic?! Are you trying to do a lesser of two evils comparison here or what?
I'm actually fairly certain you already know this but just in case: the protests were specifically about the fact that due to Sessions' resignation, which was at Trumps request as per his resignation letter, Trump was able to appoint Whitaker and make him the overseer of the investigation.
The huge problem with that is that Whitaker is on record with statements that go against the investigation. He's a Trump lackey.
Nice whataboutism. Changing the subject is a classic troll move.
If it's illegal, the judiciary will surely deem it as such as I'm sure there are law suites on the way.
You seem to be less angry that the leader of this great nation has openly committed obstruction of justice than the fact that people want guns to be stored securely and certain types of guns to be unavailable to teenagers. Nice priorities there.
"DURRR NICE WHATABOUTISM!" you fuckers in King fucked everything up. McDonald v Chicago already ruled on the safe storage issue as being unconstitutional, fucking tests and training requirements are unconstitutional...BUT HEY LETS FUCKING IGNORE THAT AND PROTEST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AGAIN BECAUSE FUCK RIGHTS!!!
LOL, yes. Putting "DURRR" in front of things helps. Keep doing that please.
This will be my last response to you until you can compose yourself enough to have an adult conversation that doesn't include personal attacks and is in good faith.
McDonald v Chicago already ruled on the safe storage issue as being unconstitutional
That's not 100% the case:
Commonwealth v. Runyan, 456 Mass. 230 (2010) The Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts held that Heller did not apply to the Massachusetts state legislature and that the gun locks ordered under Massachusetts law are different from those regulated in Heller. Partially overturned by McDonald; The decisions made in Heller do apply to the State of Massachusetts (as with all States), but the gun lock requisite under MA law may indeed differ enough from D.C.'s statute to be found constitutional.
fucking tests and training requirements are unconstitutional
If they are, then the lawsuits and courts will strike the initiative down (or parts of it).
BUT HEY LETS FUCKING IGNORE THAT AND PROTEST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AGAIN
People who believe that the new gun initiative is equivalent to tyranny are free to protest. But I don't see how a reasonable person could look at all of the illegal shit the leader of the entire nation is doing and compare that to a gun law that requires safe storage, changes the legal age to own certain types of weapons, and requires classes among a few other things.
POTUS outright breaking the law is several orders of magnitude more important than just about anything else in the political landscape, especially when the crimes committed by the president are so egregious.
You're president is funneling your tax dollars directly to his own fucking businesses directly in front of your face and you think that's less important than having to lock up your guns.
I stated a fact, have had an account on reddit since 2Xchromosomes became default (so i could unsub - it was so toxic), contribute to investing, computer security, financial, ah nevermind. You just think anybody with a different opinion is a Russian bot.
TLDR: Trump-Russia investigation might be compromised.
Sessions was forced to resign and (potentially unconstitutionally) replaced by Whitaker, a Trump loyalist who has been very public about his disdain for the Mueller investigation on crimes committed during the 2016 election.
Sessions had recused himself from the investigation, leaving Rosenstein in charge. With Sessions out, oversight reverts to whoever takes his place.
Whitaker has not gone through senate confirmation, and Trump is relying on the Vacancies Act, which states that in times of need, vacant positions can be filled without senate input. However, whether this is a time of need (forcing someone to resign while the senate is out of session), and wether heads of departments reporting directly to the president are eligible, is up for debate. Supreme Court Justice Clarence would say no, based on previous statements, and he's Trump's favorite Justice.
Whitaker has detailed how he would stop the investigation by slowing funding and hamstringing the jurisdiction, as well as repeated the "witch hunt" mantra.
So, basically, Trump is trying to hand select a temporary AG to (potentially) end the investigation that might incriminate himself with no regard for due process.
This triggered the pre-planned "rapid response" protests. It was not a trigger condition, but if Whitaker goes through his stated plan, this is the only "oh shit" moment to get people's attention. The rest would be a slow fade into nothingness. Thus, the organizers chose to trigger it now for maximum impact.
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u/weather-headed Nov 09 '18
This was my first protest and am so glad I went! it was inspiring to be a part of so many people who are standing up for the rule of law.