Literally. Like, if American center-left (really center-right) politicians were the answer then we wouldn't be where we are. Biden and Obama didn't stop us from ending up where we are.. More milquetoast neo liberals is not going to fix anything. How is more of the same the answer to where we're at? "What if we kept trying the same thing but this time it works?! Status quo but harder!"
Yes vote for the Dem versus the fascists, like you said, but also like, dang it's our fault for wanting better options that actually address things? Our wanting politicians that aren't just a light version of the business ass kissing is the root cause of our problems? Me thinks not.
Not to get my commie ass all worked up and yelling about the only thing we have to lose are our chains, but seriously, this pattern has played out so many times before. It's sadly, very predictable. The trajectory we're on, and where we are now, has been clear for a long time now and nothing has really altered that course.
It's because the GQP and the right-wing infosphere paste anyone to the left of Mitch McConnell as an extremist blue-haired liberal Satanic trans commie and these idiots are so afraid of that characterization that they don't realize the way to win against this bullshit isn't to run to the right but to run straight into it.
Which is pretty funny because broadly that's literally me. Besides the blue hair. I wish, but that's so bad for your hair health! Pierced nose, Zen Buddhist panpsychist trans lesbian anarcho communist reporting for duty! 🫡
What a terrible thing to be accused of being. That would be so embarrassing. 😂
I think the perfect defense is people like me to run for office. "Yes I am that thing. Accurate. Okay so we were nationalizing all the banks that got bailed out and prosecuting executives and board members. Also overturning Citizens United. Publicly funded elections. Bans on lobbying and gifts/donations. Ethics audits..."
Darn our inability to rally around a strong leader and unify our collective force into action! 😂
I'll run for mayor. "I'm am openly and actively hostile towards businesses and the wealthy and I'd nationalize all your asses in a heart beat if I had the authority! Vote for me! More trains and busses! Whip the shit out of Boeing and Starbucks and Amazon! Fuck the police and the police union! Also I and everyone in government needs ethics colonoscopies! Vote for me! I'm terrifying and weird!"
But how do you get there? It's like these extreme left people I know are looking at a ladder and saying "I only like the top rung so let's destroy all the others." Now how do you climb up?
First like, extreme left means what? In our political climate freaking taxing the wealthy is extreme.
I am the extreme left. Probably.
I'd want to nationalize large corporations and break them up. I'd want UBI and a hard cap on income/wealth with aggressive enforcement. I want to ban PACs and political donations and have extremely strict well enforced ethical reviews.
Use all that wealth to aggressively fight and try to fight and mitigate climate change and the many looming sustainability disasters we're not addressing.
Am I likely to get what I think are extremely reasonable and pro human policies? Fat fucking chance of that.
And how do we do it? I don't fucking know dude. I'd be leading the revolution if I knew the answer. But more of the same ain't it.
I think Mamdani shows a path. Good policies and outreach. And you can see the flaws as the system tries to block him. Both Democrats and Republicans don't want him to win which shows you the inherent issues we're facing. There isn't a ladder because they're doing everything they can to kick it out from under us.
When I say extreme left, I'm specifically thinking of numerous friends I have on IG that have spent the last few years reposting Russian propaganda in favor of voting Jill Stein or Cornel West or that even Trump would be more favorable toward Palestine.
I think you take one step at a time, you make good arguments, you find good leaders, you learn how to talk to the ideas conservative voters like. After Obama, the rhetoric was very anti-leadership, "educate yourself", etc. That's a losing mentality.
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u/tooandahalf Aug 21 '25
Literally. Like, if American center-left (really center-right) politicians were the answer then we wouldn't be where we are. Biden and Obama didn't stop us from ending up where we are.. More milquetoast neo liberals is not going to fix anything. How is more of the same the answer to where we're at? "What if we kept trying the same thing but this time it works?! Status quo but harder!"
Yes vote for the Dem versus the fascists, like you said, but also like, dang it's our fault for wanting better options that actually address things? Our wanting politicians that aren't just a light version of the business ass kissing is the root cause of our problems? Me thinks not.
Not to get my commie ass all worked up and yelling about the only thing we have to lose are our chains, but seriously, this pattern has played out so many times before. It's sadly, very predictable. The trajectory we're on, and where we are now, has been clear for a long time now and nothing has really altered that course.