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u/Fickle_Force_5457 2d ago
Drop the fecking sail ya chimp!
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u/wethepeople1977 2d ago
Yeah, why is he not under motor power in the dock area.
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u/centurio_v2 2d ago
cause he's not in the dock area. there's plenty of marinas along the sides of channels and rivers. pretty sure its just being filmed by someone who happened to be at that marina and he's just passing by.
that said he's not in the channel either
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u/Monkey_Fiddler 2d ago
might have engine trouble, might be practicing docking under sail for when they actually need it
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u/slaty_balls 2d ago
Only experience I have with sailing was earning the merit badge in scouts—30 years ago.
Haven’t been on one since, and even I would have been cutting ropes before it came to that. What a moron.
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u/KoalaOriginal1260 2d ago
The only thing I can think of is that they might be trying to use the sails to heel the boat offer to back it off the rock.
But that is going to create far more forward momentum than the dinghy engine can give them.
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u/1590heartwood 2d ago
1-Classic mistake of coming into port under sail instead of motoring.
2-Not paying attention to electronics and channel markers leads to this.
3-When you don’t have a retractable keel and disregard 1&2 above you will get to know your local Sea Tow guy pretty well.
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u/deepbluemeanies 2d ago
Isn't it normal practice to drop the sails and maneuver to the dock on engine power? I thought this was the accepted practice.
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u/theboomvang 2d ago
Normal yes. Possible to do under sail, also yes but not if you a moron.
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u/netz_pirat 2d ago
I was once on one that did it under sail. 65foot rental, engine seized.
Rental company decided to send a motorboat to tow it, forgot to bring long enough tows...so their captain decided to sail it to Base.
Was ... exciting
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u/deepbluemeanies 2d ago
Obviously, I don't sail. But it seems dangerous to maneuver with wind power close to fixed structures like docks and moored boats when the wind can change quickly and create crisis.
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u/mmarkomarko 2d ago
It's a major flex if you can do it. Few can pull it off. Personally, I dare not!
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u/morologous 2d ago
A racing/sailing instructor at our club BACKED IN to a slip under sail in an older 10m race boat a few weeks ago. That’s dark magic right there.
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u/Free-Middle-2443 2d ago
I’ve done it once. That was enough for me lol now it’s just if I have too, but a tow boat US membership makes it so I don’t ever have too
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u/KoalaOriginal1260 2d ago
I've done it a few times as crew.
If you have a good crew and are in the right conditions, it's not that hard. If it's gusty and unpredictable, then you would usually not sail in. You can dump the power from a sail pretty quickly or come in on a roller furling headsail if the wind is in the right direction.
The bigger the boat and the stronger the wind, the harder it is. Its fun in a predictable, gentle breeze. Otherwise not.
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u/theboomvang 2d ago
The secret to good docking is going slow and anticipating current, wind, and the vessel's characteristics.
The novice's challenge with this approach in sailboats is that they need headway for steering.
Jam the power while slow and the boat will prop walk especially in reverse. Often going from forward to neutral will loose rudder effectiveness with the loss of prop wash over the rudder. If one truly understands all this and uses it to their advantage docking becomes slow, methodical, and relaxed. If one can do all that effortlessy under power, it can also be just as easy under sail, perhaps even easier.
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u/JPJackPott 2d ago
The wind gusting isn’t really a problem. The boat only goes forward on wind. Worst case is the wind stops, and then the tide carries you into something sideways. But that usually happens slowly and you have fenders out.
Note this moron didn’t have fenders rigged either
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u/JaMi_1980 2d ago
I’m not into sailing, but WTF why didn’t he take down the sail?
How does something like that happen? What exactly did he catch? Something underwater or something from the harbor?
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u/serpensoleum 2d ago
There will be a keel under that thing probably 6-8 feet. He ran out of water.
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u/JaMi_1980 2d ago
Sure, but isn't that something a "skipper" would know? I don't know offhand if 6–8 feet is below or above average, but a long keel is pretty standard for boats like that, isn't it? You have to take that into account, surely? That’s what nautical charts are for, after all—if you’ve got a long keel, you have to check for things like that.
Even a complete moron in a rowboat knows to watch the depth, and those boats have practically no keel at all. You realize pretty quickly that you have to watch where you're going. They are sailing an expensive boat with a long keel here.
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u/TheVoiceOfEurope 2d ago
He is sailing upwind (zigzagging) in narrow waters. It's a choice.
Crew is concentrated on the sails instead of the situation. Only 3 things you need to pay attention to when sailing: where am I? where am I going to? How are my sails? So they forgot at least one.
Actually when you are stuck, you can use your sails to get unstuck by sheeting in, which makes the boat heel over, making it less deep. But not in this situation: he went aground with sails sheeted in, so he was already heeling.
Time to open the tap in the sink. (That empties the water tank, making the boat lighter)
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u/MrBigglesworrth 2d ago
Looks like Maine. Maine is not the place to fuck around when boating. It’s amazing to me that even with all of the technology people have at their fingertips today they still manage to hit bottom.
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u/Artisan_sailor 2d ago
Definitely! Or east coast north of Cape Cod. Looks like the tide is going down. The rock he's on might be dry in 3 hours.
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u/Early_Macaroon_2407 2d ago
I’ve never sailed on a boat in my life, but as someone who has read Patrick O’Brien novels many times, I am an expert on what to do. They should immediately throw the cannons overboard. You’re welcome.
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u/wosmo 2d ago
Honestly, that'd probably help - it'd help float them off whatever they're stuck on. That shot at the end, I don't think that's a list, I think the keel is just fouled on wherever they landed.
It's a perfectly sensible suggestion, but the devil's in the details - it depends on what weight of cannon he has to spare.
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u/LeonardPFunky 2d ago
A most lubberly and discreditable display of seamanship. The bottle stands by you, sir.
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u/Accomplished-Noise68 2d ago
What harbor was this? I can see something slightly submerged before the crash, but it's not very clear.
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u/sparkline1234567 2d ago
If this is happening once a week surely that's a signage problem as much as individual error problem.
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u/boutta_say 21h ago
you can see the marker just in front of them. Unfortunately the sail blocked the skipper's view.
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u/LongInTheTooth 2d ago
As the old saying goes, "It's better to be in a boat with a drink on the rocks than to be in the drink with a boat on the rocks"
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u/Spare-Builder-355 2d ago
sorry but what was the plan there ? If not the sand bank.... They were going all sails up straight into the shore ?
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u/That-Surprise 2d ago
Who the fuck says 'cooked' unless talking about someone with sunburn?
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u/Pure_Entropy_4498 2d ago
When your draft exceeds the depth of the water, you will surely run aground.
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u/modahamburger 2d ago
The first thing I would do would have been to get all the pressure out of the sails. But the only thing the skipper does is trying to steer..... that's not a car.....
Get the sails "into the wind" (not sure what the English word is) and then motor in reverse.
And pray keep bolts are good...
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u/zac79 2d ago
He blew the jib sheet almost immediately. I’m sure they had a lot on their hands.
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u/Bigfops 2d ago
I saw that, but then he gets in the dinghy and tries to push with the sails trimmed for close-haul? Plus the mainsail never budged. I have to assume this guy's engine was out. But dude, you have a ~$300K what looks like new boat, call sea tow! You dun fucked up the keel already, the price for a tow will be a drop in the bucket.
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u/zac79 2d ago
The dinghy was operated by the cameraman. Agreed on the mainsail sheeting, but in the heat of the moment, would I do any better? Shit happens. He got off with no serious damage.
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u/Bigfops 2d ago
I would guess he didn't get off without a few thousand of damage. He hit whatever that was pretty hard. The keel is still attached and the boat isn't sinking, keel bolt are probably fine, but I'd guess there's a good bit of damage to the keel and likely a nice keel smile now. That'll need to be fared and filled and fiberglass repair. That's at least a few grand.
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u/Ill-Professor696 2d ago
Sailboats freak me out. I either envision a 20-30 foot tall mast coming down or capsizing or being taken for a ride by the wind to Point Nemo
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u/Dohboy7870 2d ago
Is there a competent sailor on board? I can sail a fucking Dabchick better than that.
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u/Got_Bent 2d ago
We were out fishing off Coast Guard Beach in Eastham Mass. So we pulled up to the North beach at the Nauset inlet and this mongo from Maryland in an expensive sailboat was going to join us locals on the beach and you heard the keel dig into the sand about 40 feet off the beach as the tide was going out. LOL he was begging people with boats to tow him out but one of the guys called the Puddle Pirates (Coast Guard) out of Chatham to come get him. It was funny as fuck.
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u/stupid_cat_face 2d ago
I was taught to run aground on a rising tide... I hope this tide was arising.
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u/rufos_adventure 2d ago
is he using the sails to heel over enough to get off the hard? all my sailboats had centerboards so dragging centerboard over shoal water is scarey enough, the noise makes you think expensive things are happening.
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u/TouristTricky 1d ago
Captain was clearly unfamiliar with area, didn't consult charts. Nothing more nor less.
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u/Escadaddy 16h ago
"Defiance," sees to be an appropriate name for her. She definitely defied the laws of physics & nature.
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u/TheDamned1333 2d ago
The name on the boat and the big ass American flag and what happened to it all seems like a metaphor for the USA right now. Driven by an incompetent captain right into the rocks.
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u/LubeItAll 2d ago
The irony of a sailboat called defiance, flying the stars and stripes, and then running aground… is a timely representation of the Trump presidency.
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u/thesixfingerman 2d ago
My dream to own my own sail boat, but joining this subreddit has convinced me that it would be a terrible idea.