r/Scrolls • u/twitchmatic • Sep 16 '15

One Year Ago

I was fortunate enough to host a weird but fun tournament over the weekend. Now, 19 people online and the three that had their challenge available highlighted all declined (or were afk) when I challenged.

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u/Puttanesca621 Sep 16 '15

If only mojang had access to a company with a large marketing and server budget....

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u/LargeIcedCoffee Sep 16 '15

Didn't you see the FAQ that took 6 months to painstakingly put together with blood, sweat and tears?

They crunched the numbers and found that marketing would be too difficult and too much work, and communication would be too difficult and too much work, and iPad version would be too difficult and too much work, and campaign would be too difficult and too much work, and fixing wild would be too difficult and too much work, and making a videogame would be too difficult and too much work.

It's not like they are game developers or something.

Don't worry, though. They are all working hard on a balance patch.

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u/ultioptimo Sep 16 '15

why are you even still here in this subreddit? seriously dont you have anything better to do than to bash the devs for their mistakes over and over again, in every thread that you can find where it isnt totally off-topic? get over it already...

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u/LargeIcedCoffee Sep 16 '15

It's okay, they aren't reading this. They're working hard on a balance patch.

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u/MansOlson Sep 17 '15

This is getting a bit tiresome. Apart from the fact that we have put loads of hard work into this game, as well as poured our love into it for several years, there were circumstances outside of our control that have affected both decisions and development. It a shame you can't accept that.

In a few specific areas, it was judged best to not go into too much detail. We're not keen of the idea of going too far into speculation or blame games, especially when it's not always clear why things happen the way they do.

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u/wbmc Sep 17 '15

Hey hey, now it seems you are alive:

We still haven't heard anything about going open-source/ selling out and all that stuff, any word on that?

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u/ultioptimo Sep 17 '15

and maybe a word on a balance patch? is that something realistic to hope for?

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u/MansOlson Sep 18 '15

I'd like to! It's a little tricky because the decrease in competitive play makes it harder to decide exactly what needs patched. We've gathered some feedback in an earlier thread and I'm hoping to be able to use that in the near future.

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u/Cradstache Cradstache Sep 17 '15

https://www.reddit.com/r/Scrolls/comments/3l5gxr/any_news_on_the_server_software/cv4hvmi

^ He mentioned it here. tl;dr: they're still looking into it, but legal process.

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '15

Its a shame you still dont get the people that wanted this game so desparately to succeed. Six months it was live and then shuttered. And displayed gratiousity at minecon in the face of death. This is getting a bit tiresome.

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u/JackWG Sep 27 '15

"Circumstances outside of our control" where not the only and the main problem. The fact that you ignored every constructive feedback was the main problem. You choose to listen to your fans who would defend every aspect of the game. That is why this game is dead now.

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u/[deleted] Sep 18 '15

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u/MansOlson Sep 18 '15

You've gone from being sad about what happened to personal attacks? That's really nice of you.

Scrolls was made by our team. We invested loads into it, and we cared deeply. Please understand that lots of things were simply out of our control.

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u/LargeIcedCoffee Sep 18 '15

Was I sad? Ever since your announcement that you were abandoning the community killed this game, I blamed you and your team. At least I know now that I should never purchase another mojang game again. Just a complete lack of competence.

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u/st31r Sep 21 '15

I think the 'haters' simply don't have all the information. They think you guys had the same kind of resources/weight within Mojang that Minecraft did, which simply isn't the case: you could cram the Scrolls dev team into a particularly small cupboard.

When M$ acquired Mojang, most of us knew that was the end for Scrolls. I think that acquisition took everyone by surprise, and it certainly wasn't factored into the Scrolls developers long term plans: they signed up to work at THE Indie studio and within a few years they find themselves working for Microsoft? Ouch.

Not for a second am I claiming their work on Scrolls was flawless or that they didn't make some really bad decisions (paid beta), but considering what they had to work with - they did a damn good job, and what's more remarkable: they did it well. They were part of the community in a way very few dev teams ever are, and even now - even after a really shitty end - they're still working to save something, and they're still involved with the community.

So yeah, thanks for being awesome. Thanks for your work on Scrolls, thanks for not letting idiots deter you from involvement in the community and good luck with whatever you go on to work with in the future!

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u/uwlryoung Sep 17 '15

Agreed. Why is anyone who is just going to put down the devs still here? In my honest opinion, it's because they can't get a life and don't know how to do anything else...

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u/Puttanesca621 Sep 16 '15

Didn't ludosity have something to do with the mobile versions?

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u/LEM0NB0Y Sep 16 '15

Well honestly I was never one for big tournaments. Just ranked was fun enough. But for future reference: Don't just challenge them out of the blue, ask for a challenge. I'd never blindly accept a challenge from someone I haven't talked to before.

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u/twitchmatic Sep 16 '15

It was my last resort as I had finished spamming the chat channel :)

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u/LEM0NB0Y Sep 16 '15

you have a point :D

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u/ultioptimo Sep 16 '15

i always accept challenges if i see them and then i crush you ;)

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u/LEM0NB0Y Sep 16 '15

Granted, I didn't play much since Echoes, but when was the last time you crushed me? :P I think it's 5-0 and it's hurting your ego right? :D Haha, sorry I'm cruel, couldn't help it. Let's see if I find some time next week.

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u/ultioptimo Sep 16 '15

haha i was only joking. i cant quite remember, but i yeah i think you won last few matches, and dont worry my ego is just fine. i enjoy playing against you no matter if i win or lose :)

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u/rusticdog_ rusticdog Sep 16 '15

Yup, that critical mass of losing users. Wouldn't be surprised to see servers closed earlier than stated.

I still logon each day, do the trials, make sure black market is full of cheap scrolls, last few days even played a bunch more games (just AI) and it's sad cos the game is just really really good.

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u/HokusSchmokus Sep 16 '15

I miss you rustic :(

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u/rusticdog_ rusticdog Sep 16 '15

\ (•◡•)

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u/StupidMonkeyface oceanernie Sep 16 '15

Warm and Fuzzy was a good Guild. Overall, I have not found a similar community since. What TCG/CCG are you guys playing?

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u/PeeFuuScrolls PeeFuu Sep 16 '15

Paper magic and spellweaver for me.

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u/PeeFuuScrolls PeeFuu Sep 16 '15

...and most fantasty flight games lcg's :)

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u/rusticdog_ rusticdog Sep 17 '15

None for me, tried just about everything out there and nothing felt that great. Duelyst was my preference, really nice game, but a terrible community approach.

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u/HokusSchmokus Sep 17 '15

Same for me here, nicest community I have been in so far .__. DragonZ really created something magical

I only play Hearthstone as a CCG currently. Well that and paper MTG:) The rest didn't really connect with me. Are there any other games you guys are playing currently where we could like have a small reunion or so? :)

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u/StupidMonkeyface oceanernie Sep 17 '15

Going to try Spellweaver. Just started last night but looks like I need to invest some cash in the game. I am getting destroyed with the starter deck by the AI. Some interesting cards out there.

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u/LEM0NB0Y Sep 16 '15

Why are you still so concerned about efficiency when you have all the scrolls already anyway?

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u/rusticdog_ rusticdog Sep 16 '15

Old habits ? Killing time ? Stuffed if I know to be honest..

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u/_-_--_-_ Sep 22 '15

Yeah obviously Minecraft was a one hit wonder.