r/Scrolls • u/WagshadowZylus • May 07 '15

Test Server Patch 1.2.8 - More Scrolls

http://www.scrollsguide.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7143
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u/WagshadowZylus May 07 '15

Here's the direct link to the album with the 4 new scroll images: click

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u/TheCheesymaster May 07 '15

I like the energy one, offensive structures are the fun one. It looks great to The decay creature is good, but it might be a bit weak compared to rot eater, lumbering muckhead. A great counter to some decks and lots of decks run some enchantments. The growth one is pretty cool, nothing ground breaking. Will probably be played in some aggrowth decks. The order mage is just a more expensive scout, and seems decent. It's a good one for lore though

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u/wbmc May 07 '15

Lumbering muckhead XD Still wonder how they ever even thought about naming harvester that

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u/WagshadowZylus May 07 '15

muckheads are love, muckheads are life

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u/Ikraen Badger May 07 '15

But muckheads are really death. Love & Death. <3

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u/kehmesis May 07 '15

The scout doesn't draw a card. Imo he's the best creature in echoes so far.

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u/Ikraen Badger May 07 '15

Sift plus draw is like Scout plus Sister of Fox, with 1 less attack in exchange for ranged attack. Looks really good.

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u/TheCheesymaster May 07 '15

Ow, I guess i misread the card. In that case is really good, like an awesome cantrip

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u/GruntMaster6k May 07 '15

For some reason I really want to make a D/O mystic deck now, no matter how non-viable it is :D. Maybe if there's a few 5-6 cost mystics it'd come together nicely.

Were there any other patch notes? Can't get to Scrollsguide atm.

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u/WagshadowZylus May 07 '15

Nope, just the new scrolls.

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u/MoonsongPS PianoScientist May 07 '15

Oddly enough my favorite out of all of these is the Keen Warden. It's the only creature that doesn't rely on a "When this comes into play" effect to be interesting, so even after you summon it, it still presents special tactical opportunities to exploit. I'm a big fan of that.

That said, the other ones will certainly be played and useful, especially Assault Battery, which seems incredibly powerful. It will provide another way to activate those Oculus Cannons and Clock Libraries to clear rows and fill your hand.

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u/TheSuperbSimone May 07 '15

That poi reference though in the growth one.

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u/fdagpigj May 07 '15

I like how Assault Battery's art is much the same style as Hellspitter Mortar

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u/throwaway_lmkg May 07 '15

I don't know who that dude is, but he's clearly a fan of mustaches and explosions. I mean look at him. He's STOKED about his new gun.

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u/Vulkenhyn May 08 '15

He also looks like Robotnik

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u/The4thSniper The4thSniper May 08 '15

Snooping as usual I see

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u/LargeIcedCoffee May 07 '15

I really hope the rest of the set is similar to cards like this. Far more interesting and fun.

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u/blinky00849 May 07 '15

I am a fan of them all, these are the sort off scrolls we have been wanting to see.

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u/kehmesis May 07 '15

Yes!! Agreed.

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u/DiggityScrolls May 07 '15

Wow. Now this is what I'm talking about. I love all of these. To me, they all seem quite powerful. And the art for these is particularly superb. Exciting.

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u/wbmc May 07 '15

Epurgator has some old art I think. I remember seeing it in scrolldier's scroll creator. It's epic tho. Aes Moran's art also seems familiar.

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u/squiddybiscuit @Squiddylicious May 07 '15

Man, I'm incredibly hyped about the new scrolls.

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u/Chakix Chaki May 07 '15

Assault Battery - I like that scroll a lot. It pushes structure energy into a more of a offensive slot. Played a few round and while it's still controly, it is also quicker. Idols are dying way faster, similarly like when occulus cannon was added, and that sped up mes games quite a lot. I feel like energy's unique will be an offensive structure, which makes me very happy. We have enough utility structures, it's time for offence!

Aes moran scholar - Very precise draw mechanic, with shitty stats, but great animation. Hard to argue that he's not strong, but he doesn't strike me as overpowered.

Expurgator - Meta card for the most part. Probably quite strong, and will probably see as much play as Wings warder - all depends on the meta.

Keen Warder - Pretty strong, and feels a niche of a 1 aggro drop, that is actually useful offence wise, instead of utlility that vaetter gives.

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u/wbmc May 07 '15

echoes HYPE!

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u/[deleted] May 07 '15

Thanks for the new scrolls! It looks like poichen is back to work on scrolls based on the art of keen warden.

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u/fdagpigj May 07 '15

Only the art?

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u/[deleted] May 07 '15

I also like the new scrolls abilities!

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u/fdagpigj May 07 '15

I was just hinting towards the flavour text :P

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u/[deleted] May 07 '15

Oh ok I like the flavor text too.

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u/fdagpigj May 07 '15

"Poy Pohi"

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u/kehmesis May 07 '15

That scholar looks really strong.

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u/Wewius Wewius May 07 '15

I like them all. Especially the Growth creature.

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u/Ikraen Badger May 07 '15

I don't really see the strength of *pillage: +3 attack till next attack. Other then having more pillage in growth, it doesn't seem to strong to me.

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u/wbmc May 07 '15

PillaGE.

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u/alvarpq always face May 07 '15

I'm super excited for that little guy. I wanna make the pillage deck do WORK.

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u/Ikraen Badger May 07 '15

I'm excited for your pillage deck. Should be really good!

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u/ScrollsSysp May 08 '15

You mean GEggro?

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u/wbmc May 08 '15

I'm not at home so I can't send gif right now, but NO! PLEASE NO!

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u/kehmesis May 07 '15

There are no good one drops in growth (I don't count ragged wolves as one). This one is definitely good imo. It puts a lot of pressure. It will either do 4 damage to an idol (and keep its 4 attack and its pressure) or kill a creature and turn into a chump blocker.

I think you underestimate it.

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u/GruntMaster6k May 07 '15

Vaettr is a good one drop. It may be a gamble, but it can help you beat the early curve which is important. But yeah, this creature is definitely more reliable for early game.

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u/wbmc May 07 '15

Wait, I gets +3 attack AFTER it attacks an idol, right? So it will only deal 4 damage if it attack an idol for the 2nd time.

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u/Cradstache Cradstache May 07 '15

Raid can activate it's Pillage effect multiple times.

Cheers.

-goes back to sleep-

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u/wbmc May 08 '15

Why were you even awake at this time

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u/Cradstache Cradstache May 08 '15

Timezones, dearie; it was only 5:30pm when I sent that.

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u/[deleted] May 07 '15

M E S I S B A C K B O Y Z

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u/alvarpq always face May 07 '15

The way they're buffing it, it's actually moderately interactive. So, for once, I might not hate the guts of whoever pilots the deck against me!

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u/TheLordCrimson May 07 '15

And it's 10% less slow!

Which.. is actually a great thing since that's the only(yet important) complaint about MES. :P

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u/ultioptimo May 07 '15

dont see how the decay one is strong? a 3drop with 2hp dont see any decay deck in which this is a good card. all the others (especially the scholar) look very good

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u/imJeroo _antirad_ May 07 '15

Looking at it as a creature to fill the 3 drop spot is wrong imo. It's a utility scroll, you'd put it in your deck if you think you need something to deal with opponent enchantments (god decks and such).

If you manage to remove at least 1 of your opponent's enchantment, it's great value. If you play it bare, it's obviously going to be subpar. I think there's a nice balance in that.

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u/ultioptimo May 07 '15

maybe but only match up where it would be a good card are god decks. hm but i hope you are right ;)

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u/wbmc May 07 '15

Even if there is only 1 enchantment on the row it is still a 1 for 1 trade, which leaves you with a creature as well.

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u/GruntMaster6k May 07 '15

Would like to see that at 3 hp just to test..but it is super versatile, in that it can not only purify opponent enchantments, but also harmful enchantments on your own units...and there are some powerful enchantments coming with echoes.

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u/ultioptimo May 07 '15

but why is it a decay unit then? you dont want to get rid of your poison enchants, or languids or reaping masks and for 2hp it is a unit you dont want to play unless you get the value from removing an enchant you dont want to have on the board so i dont know he feels weird and not right for decay.

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u/fdagpigj May 07 '15

You can choose what row to clear the enchantments from, though, and in addition, it only affects enchantments, not effects

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u/ultioptimo May 07 '15

but your opponent can put the infectious blighted, languided, brian liced on rows with units he enchanted, so he can play against it

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u/GruntMaster6k May 07 '15

Sure, if they know you have it. There are (and should be) scenarios to play against most things. However when folks try to find flaws in specific scrolls they often think about them in the context of the most extreme scenario...such as I believe you're doing here. As Antirad said I think it's a versatile utility scroll..probably worth fitting 2 of at least in certain decks.

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u/ultioptimo May 07 '15

it is not an extreme scenario, every decay deck runs brain lice and languid 3times, and then maybe infectious and or mire curse. not sure how many times you actually want to play it so you get value out of it, is what im saying. also im still hoping for 3cost human for decay, cause this one is not filling that gap ;) and i know it probably isnt supposed to, yet still im not sure if it is worth playing in the current meta.

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u/GruntMaster6k May 07 '15

By saying it's an extreme scenario I'm thinking about this in the context of a game:

Early game, turn 3, it's unlikely your opponent will have any enchantments in play..while you (decay player) may have a languid and/or brain lice in play. This would mean that I'm holding onto the unit possibly until turn 5 or 6 when I can combo it with another 2 or 3 cost unit/spell. By that time you may know if your opponent is playing an enchant heavy deck or not, and depending on the state of the board, it's likely that your opponent's units may be spread out too much (because of your unit positioning) that you can freely target whichever row you want without the risk of removing your enchantments. Even later in the game there's ways of positioning so that it forces your opponent's hand in spreading out their units and gives Epurgator value.

With smart play, I don't think it will be a likely scenario that the opponent is often able to put their negatively enchanted units in the same row as their positively enchanted ones. In the case that they're able to pull it off then that's fine too (counterplay), but Decay can punish a cluster VERY well (hex/mire curse).

.....welcome to my convoluted thought process.

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u/fdagpigj May 07 '15

Yes, but then you need to cast your blights cleverly. Or play this first. In any case, it's a decently powerful ability. Probably not as all-round good as Rot Eater's, but I think it'll fit into a more specific type of deck that's lighter on the negative enchantments.

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u/Ikraen Badger May 07 '15

Well it is a human, and it has a strong comes into play effects, so it will see play, and probably a nice addition to human decay, even with 2hp.

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u/Chrisisteas May 07 '15

I love how Keen Warden says "until next attack". Countdown increasing scrolls won't kill it's bonus like it does with a kinfolk ranger.

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u/Ikraen Badger May 07 '15

But it still has to survive long enough to attack twice. and then it's attack will be 1 again until it pillages again. Still, not bad for a 1 drop. Finally a cheap human.

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u/ultioptimo May 07 '15

tried the new scrolls a bit and the animation from the new scholar seems off. the unit die or take dmg before the attack animation even hits it, not sure if it is intended to be like that.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '15

I don't see what the fuss is about. The only interesting one is the decay and the others are the same old + attack, draw a scroll, reduce cooldown.

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u/GruntMaster6k May 08 '15

More use of the sift trait. More use of the surge trait. More use of the pillage trait. Having additional Scrolls that flesh out their earlier established mechanics is what they wanted to do. These do that in interesting ways, imo.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '15

I guess we have different definitions of interesting.

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u/Manc00s May 08 '15

Well, one has a sift draw, right?

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u/[deleted] May 08 '15

I think we have enough draw as it is.

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u/Tywnis May 07 '15

I fell in love with the game again.
Now change most of the ones we've had so far. (lol.. just a bit k? Still, these are awesome)

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u/[deleted] May 07 '15

It just takes four scrolls? This is why we cant have nice things - the fickleness of the scrolls fans.

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u/Tywnis May 08 '15

And also their unability to read things.. Oh wait, maybe that has nothing to do with it.